John Cena Appriciation Thread

[metylerca]

saggyboyflair said:

Keeping Cena on Raw with the same bland character to continue the same old simplistic, redundant, repackaged fueds with same top guys month after month, year after year, makes more sense?

They'd just have to move guys over to RAW to feud with him during the draft.
They did it with Khali, and Kennedy... so why not with MVP or something?

[Robbymac]

saggyboyflair said:

Keeping Cena on Raw with the same bland character to continue the same old simplistic, redundant, repackaged fueds with same top guys month after month, year after year, makes more sense?

When the guy is the biggest star in the industry absolutely. First of all he's never had a prolonged feud with HHH. Also you can move some Smackdown guys to RAW to feud with him rather than moving him to Smackdown.

[saggyboyflair]

metylerca said:

saggyboyflair said:

Keeping Cena on Raw with the same bland character to continue the same old simplistic, redundant, repackaged fueds with same top guys month after month, year after year, makes more sense?

They'd just have to move guys over to RAW to feud with him during the draft.
They did it with Khali, and Kennedy... so why not with MVP or something?

other than MVP maybe, I just dont see it happening. Cena will squash him like he does everyone else. It appears its going to be Cena-Trips for the next year anyways.
The bigger question is where will Orton go from here when he loses the strap and he isnt the focal point again? Meanwhile Trips-Cena are for the next year or two. OH joy

[Drink Up Me Cider]

Back on the positives. He has a really big jaw, it makes me giggle so that's a good thing about him.

[Robbymac]

saggyboyflair said:

metylerca said:

They'd just have to move guys over to RAW to feud with him during the draft.
They did it with Khali, and Kennedy... so why not with MVP or something?

other than MVP maybe, I just dont see it happening. Cena will squash him like he does everyone else. It appears its going to be Cena-Trips for the next year anyways.
The bigger question is where will Orton go from here when he loses the strap?

And you will complain weekly that Cena-Trips is repetatitve despite the fact that they have had exactly ONE PPV one on one match.

[saggyboyflair]

robbymac said:

saggyboyflair said:

other than MVP maybe, I just dont see it happening. Cena will squash him like he does everyone else. It appears its going to be Cena-Trips for the next year anyways.
The bigger question is where will Orton go from here when he loses the strap?

And you will complain weekly that Cena-Trips is repetatitve despite the fact that they have had exactly ONE PPV one on one match.

Correct.. We need another draft and shake things up. And trips and Cena dont have to be on the A show. Imagine all the fresh fueds and interest that can be renewed if Trips and Cena go to smackdown. I see nothing wrong with that. WWE will be around regardless and they will still make their millions. When youre the only game in town you can experiment with different things. Its not like WCW is breathing down their neck

[Robbymac]

saggyboyflair said:

robbymac said:

And you will complain weekly that Cena-Trips is repetatitve despite the fact that they have had exactly ONE PPV one on one match.

Correct.. We need another draft and shake things up. And trips and Cena dont have to be on the A show. Imagine all the fresh fueds and interest that can be renewed if Trips and Cena go to smackdown. I see nothing wrong with that. WWE will be around regardless and they will still make their millions. When youre the only game in town you can experiment with different things. Its not like WCW is breathing down their neck

Whoa, whoa, whoa...

You want Cena AND Triple H to go to Smackdown now? That makes no sense.

You are taking your two biggest stars and moving them to the B-show. So your RAW rating plummets because no one cares anymore and Smackdown ratings don't really improve because people don't watch TV on Friday Nights.

Brilliant idea.

[saggyboyflair]

robbymac said:

saggyboyflair said:

Correct.. We need another draft and shake things up. And trips and Cena dont have to be on the A show. Imagine all the fresh fueds and interest that can be renewed if Trips and Cena go to smackdown. I see nothing wrong with that. WWE will be around regardless and they will still make their millions. When youre the only game in town you can experiment with different things. Its not like WCW is breathing down their neck

Whoa, whoa, whoa...

You want Cena AND Triple H to go to Smackdown now? That makes no sense.

You are taking your two biggest stars and moving them to the B-show. So your RAW rating plummets because no one cares anymore and Smackdown ratings don't really improve because people don't watch TV on Friday Nights.

Brilliant idea.

hmmm... Are u saying WWE would go out of business or Raw would be taken off the air if Triple H and Cena jumped ship and they brought some of the top smackdown boys to RAW? Ratings shouldnt be that big of a deal anymore. WWE is not fighting for Rating supremacy with another wrestling company. COME ON NOW!

WWE survived in 95 with Raw's ratings being in the toilet with getting ratings in the 1's. I think they could survive this.

[Robbymac]

saggyboyflair said:

robbymac said:

Whoa, whoa, whoa...

You want Cena AND Triple H to go to Smackdown now? That makes no sense.

You are taking your two biggest stars and moving them to the B-show. So your RAW rating plummets because no one cares anymore and Smackdown ratings don't really improve because people don't watch TV on Friday Nights.

Brilliant idea.

hmmm... Are u saying WWE would go out of business or Raw would be taken off the air if Triple H and Cena jumped ship and they brought some of the top smackdown boys to RAW? Ratings shouldnt be that big of a deal anymore. WWE is not fighting for Rating supremacy with another wrestling company. COME ON NOW!

WWE survived in 95 with Raw's ratings being in the toilet with getting ratings in the 1's. I think they could survive this.

Of course they wouldn't go out of business, but why the hell would they do something INTENTIONALLY to cause a ratings dip? That is stupid on so many levels. It sounds like you want the Smackdown guys to come to RAW and the RAW guys to go to Smackdown. Why don't you just watch Smackdown instead of RAW?

[doytch]

john cena and triple h get to make a group called power masters and they can get all the titels from randy orton, chris jericho and bob holly and kenny rhodes.

i would like that and it would be sense. but they still get angry at eachother becuse they both get so much good and only the best wrestler on raw gets 1 million dollars.

[saggyboyflair]

Im not trying to suggest to move the entire smackdown and raw roster but moving cena and trips to another brand would be a little refreshing is all I am saying. Why bring in all the smackdown guys and lower their stock by feeding them to trips and cena? Because you know that is precisely what would happen. And by the way, when has trips ever been a big rating's grabber? Raw's ratings didnt decrease that much when either Cena or trips were out of action. In fact, it was a bit of fresh air and gave some other guys some opportunities.

[Scree is SCIENCE! ENERGY!]

robbymac said:

Of course they wouldn't go out of business, but why the hell would they do something INTENTIONALLY to cause a ratings dip? That is stupid on so many levels. It sounds like you want the Smackdown guys to come to RAW and the RAW guys to go to Smackdown. Why don't you just watch Smackdown instead of RAW?

Because that wouldn't change anything. I agree that it couldn't hurt to send either Cena or HHH over to Smackdown (but not both because then we'd just be getting the same thing on a different night) But why not send another big name to Smackdown. Maybe then we could have two A shows rather than just leaving Smackdown as the "minor leagues". The main problem with Smackdown is that its on a terrible channel, but if they can get it on another station with a better time slot, I don't see why they couldn't push it up to the "Second A" show.

As is, moving one of them wouldn't probably do a whole lot business wise but as for new feuds it'd be nice, but if they can sort the whole network deal out it'd be nice to switch it up.

[Robbymac]

saggyboyflair said:

Im not trying to suggest to move the entire smackdown and raw roster but moving cena and trips to another brand would be a little refreshing is all I am saying. Why bring in all the smackdown guys and lower their stock by feeding them to trips and cena? Because you know that is precisely what would happen. And by the way, when has trips ever been a big rating's grabber? Raw's ratings didnt decrease that much when either Cena or trips were out of action. In fact, it was a bit of fresh air and gave some other guys some opportunities.

To you maybe. I was insanely bored with RAW when Cena and Triple H were injured during 2007. I haven't missed a show since they came back.

[saggyboyflair]

if they move smackdown off of Friday nights, maybe to a wed or thurs, could very well increase the ratings of that show. Maybe even to perhaps match Raw in the ratings. Most people are not at home watching the tube on a Friday Night. It is pretty sad that Smackdown is looked down upon by vince and co. as the "minor leagues" when in fact it has the potential to be just as big as raw.

[Robbymac]

saggyboyflair said:

if they move smackdown off of Friday nights, maybe to a wed or thurs, could very well increase the ratings of that show. Maybe even to perhaps match Raw in the ratings. Most people are not at home watching the tube on a Friday Night. It is pretty sad that Smackdown is looked down upon by vince and co. as the "minor leagues" when in fact it has the potential to be just as big as raw.

The only way it will be as big as RAW is if it is live, and thats not going to happen. So as it stands right now you keep your shows slotted how they are. RAW is your A show, SD your B, ECW your C.

[Scree is SCIENCE! ENERGY!]

saggyboyflair said:

if they move smackdown off of Friday nights, maybe to a wed or thurs, could very well increase the ratings of that show. Maybe even to perhaps match Raw in the ratings. Most people are not at home watching the tube on a Friday Night. It is pretty sad that Smackdown is looked down upon by vince and co. as the "minor leagues" when in fact it has the potential to be just as big as raw.

Ok, that stated much of what I was trying to say only much more coherently and better. If Smackdown could get a better time slot and station they should stop treating it like the B show and work towards making it the second A show. In that case, yeah, move one of those two over to freshen things up.

But with the way things are its effect (ratings wise) would probably be at best a minimal change and at worst they would lose the younger viewers who watch for Cena.

[metylerca]

robbymac said:

saggyboyflair said:

other than MVP maybe, I just dont see it happening. Cena will squash him like he does everyone else. It appears its going to be Cena-Trips for the next year anyways.
The bigger question is where will Orton go from here when he loses the strap?

And you will complain weekly that Cena-Trips is repetatitve despite the fact that they have had exactly ONE PPV one on one match.

Yes.

[metylerca]

saggyboyflair said:

if they move smackdown off of Friday nights, maybe to a wed or thurs, could very well increase the ratings of that show. Maybe even to perhaps match Raw in the ratings. Most people are not at home watching the tube on a Friday Night. It is pretty sad that Smackdown is looked down upon by vince and co. as the "minor leagues" when in fact it has the potential to be just as big as raw.

So let me get this straight....
You'd like the WWE to change SmackDown's night on TV. Then move Cena and HHH, their 2 biggest names, to that show. And leave RAW without their biggest names? Even though RAW is the flagship program?
Am I getting this right?

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doytch said:

john cena and triple h get to make a group called power masters and they can get all the titels from randy orton, chris jericho and bob holly and kenny rhodes.

i would like that and it would be sense. but they still get angry at eachother becuse they both get so much good and only the best wrestler on raw gets 1 million dollars.

Who is Kenny Rhodes?

[Celgress]

*Shakes head at thread, and moves on*