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Post by Mother on Feb 25, 2008 23:12:49 GMT -5
The logic of inducting him would be that he gave his health/body/well-being for the industry. I think the paycheck that he's still getting from the WWE is saying enough. Not that I consider him a charity case, but I don't think we should put people in there because we feel sorry for them. This is the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Appreciation. |
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Post by Hanzo on Feb 26, 2008 12:16:56 GMT -5
I'm pulling for Ricky Steamboat and The Fink.
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Post by Mac on Feb 26, 2008 12:29:37 GMT -5
Well apparently the WWE will do anything to get the Rock to show up at Wrestlemania. I'm guessing Rock does a run in and saves Maria from Santino pre-divas playboy disaster.
Inducting semi-jobber Johnson and the useless Maivia is like the NBA inducting Fat Lever and Ron Harper.
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Post by rm1978 on Feb 26, 2008 15:39:03 GMT -5
From PWInsider:
Tickets for the WWE Hall of Fame ceremony cost $34 or $54. Everyone who attends is being asked to wear business casual clothing. Tickets for the event go on sale this Saturday.
Hopefully the hayseeds down in FL actually show some class at this event for once. The crowds at past HOF ceremonies have been truly embarassing.
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Post by dh03grad on Feb 27, 2008 2:22:12 GMT -5
It seriously bothers me that they are inducting Rocky Johnson and Peter Mavia as a tandem solely to get their famous son/grandson to appear. What if Dwayne wasnt available, they would no longer be HOF caliber? What if Rocky Johnson never had a son?
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Feb 27, 2008 5:30:39 GMT -5
It seriously bothers me that they are inducting Rocky Johnson and Peter Mavia as a tandem solely to get their famous son/grandson to appear. What if Dwayne wasnt available, they would no longer be HOF caliber? What if Rocky Johnson never had a son? OR it maybe could be that they really want to induct Miavia and Johnson, but don't think it would be right to do so without Dwayne there. WWE is capable of doing something good, you know? |
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Post by Mac on Feb 27, 2008 7:51:38 GMT -5
It seriously bothers me that they are inducting Rocky Johnson and Peter Mavia as a tandem solely to get their famous son/grandson to appear. What if Dwayne wasnt available, they would no longer be HOF caliber? What if Rocky Johnson never had a son? OR it maybe could be that they really want to induct Miavia and Johnson, but don't think it would be right to do so without Dwayne there. WWE is capable of doing something good, you know? Theres plenty of more deserving wrestlers than Johnson and Maivia. This is obviously to get The Rock at the HOF, hes got more starpower than anybody else. |
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Feb 27, 2008 12:37:43 GMT -5
OR it maybe could be that they really want to induct Miavia and Johnson, but don't think it would be right to do so without Dwayne there. WWE is capable of doing something good, you know? Theres plenty of more deserving wrestlers than Johnson and Maivia. This is obviously to get The Rock at the HOF, hes got more starpower than anybody else. HWat good does that starpower do when the HOF only getts a late night hour on USA? The tickets to the event will be sold no matter what, Rock or no Rock. IF WWE's sole reason for their inductions to get the Rock to show then they really aren't helping themselves. |
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Post by Mac on Feb 27, 2008 15:04:30 GMT -5
Theres plenty of more deserving wrestlers than Johnson and Maivia. This is obviously to get The Rock at the HOF, hes got more starpower than anybody else. HWat good does that starpower do when the HOF only getts a late night hour on USA? The tickets to the event will be sold no matter what, Rock or no Rock. IF WWE's sole reason for their inductions to get the Rock to show then they really aren't helping themselves. Not really hurting themselves either. They get an hour to show "Legends" and shill the PPV the day after. Hows that do anything other than help them? Not to mention if theres a side deal for him to show up at Mania. |
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Feb 27, 2008 15:47:59 GMT -5
HWat good does that starpower do when the HOF only getts a late night hour on USA? The tickets to the event will be sold no matter what, Rock or no Rock. IF WWE's sole reason for their inductions to get the Rock to show then they really aren't helping themselves. Not really hurting themselves either. They get an hour to show "Legends" and shill the PPV the day after. Hows that do anything other than help them? Not to mention if theres a side deal for him to show up at Mania. I agree with that, but that happens with or without The Rock. There is no real financial gain in The Rocks apperance, which is what would be the reasoning for saying that the only reason they are inducting Peter Miavia and Rocky Johnson is to bring The Rock in and why that reason makes no sense. |
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Feb 27, 2008 17:49:44 GMT -5
Peter Maivia and Rocky Johnson are as deserving (or more deserving) than many of the inductees. They've inducted midcarders for awhile now. Maivia helped launch the Samoan wrestling family through his taking Afa and Sika under his wing. Rocky Johnson, along with Tony Atlas (already inducted), was part of the first African American tag team to win the WWE tag titles. Maivia and Johnson are worthy enough to be in the WWE Hall of Fame, since it includes Johnny Rodz, Nikolai Volkoff, Tony Atlas, etc.
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Post by RedSmile on Feb 27, 2008 18:11:01 GMT -5
Peter Maivia and Rocky Johnson are as deserving (or more deserving) than many of the inductees. They've inducted midcarders for awhile now. Maivia helped launch the Samoan wrestling family through his taking Afa and Sika under his wing. Rocky Johnson, along with Tony Atlas (already inducted), was part of the first African American tag team to win the WWE tag titles. Maivia and Johnson are worthy enough to be in the WWE Hall of Fame, since it includes Johnny Rodz, Nikolai Volkoff, Tony Atlas, etc. I agree, both deserve to go in. The only thing is, I believe they should go in on seperate inductions, on their own merits, and not together, just because they are the Rock's family. i think that by doing it the way they are doing it, will prompt fans to say, "Hey, they are inducting the Rock's dad and grand-dad", instead of "Hey, they are inducting the FIRST wrestling Samoan, and one of the first African American champions" |
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Post by chunkylover53 on Feb 27, 2008 18:22:13 GMT -5
It seriously bothers me that they are inducting Rocky Johnson and Peter Mavia as a tandem solely to get their famous son/grandson to appear. What if Dwayne wasnt available, they would no longer be HOF caliber? What if Rocky Johnson never had a son? OR it maybe could be that they really want to induct Miavia and Johnson, but don't think it would be right to do so without Dwayne there. WWE is capable of doing something good, you know? True, and if anybody else were to induct either of them, we would just be bashing The Rock for "forgetting his wrestling roots". |
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Post by Mac on Feb 27, 2008 19:06:51 GMT -5
They're being inducted because the Rock will be there. I cant see it any other way. They mentioned twice the Rock would be doing the induction so if you're a fan of the Rock tune in to see THE ROCK. I know they put midcarders in, I just dont like it, and I understand the WWE HOF is more of an exersize in the politcs of wrestling than anything else. This is just another case to prove that point.
Peter Maivia I can almost get, not Rocky Johnson, it'd make more since to induct Col. DeBeers
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Post by PTBartman on Feb 27, 2008 20:54:57 GMT -5
I'm pulling for Ricky Steamboat and The Fink. I'm with you on the Fink. I could be with Steamboat. Butmore than anything I want to see double A go in wit Naitch. |
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Feb 27, 2008 21:08:46 GMT -5
They're being inducted because the Rock will be there. I cant see it any other way. They mentioned twice the Rock would be doing the induction so if you're a fan of the Rock tune in to see THE ROCK. I know they put midcarders in, I just dont like it, and I understand the WWE HOF is more of an exersize in the politcs of wrestling than anything else. This is just another case to prove that point. Peter Maivia I can almost get, not Rocky Johnson, it'd make more since to induct Col. DeBeers The fact is, Rock's family has had a great relationship with the McMahons for over 30 years. Afa, Sika, and Snuka have already been inducted and I seriously think Peter Maivia and Rocky Johnson (whose history making tag partner has already been inducted) would be inducted even if the Rock wasn't a huge star. A young Dwayne Johnson, with family connections to Peter Maivia and Rocky Johnson as well as Afa, Sika, Samu, and Jimmy Snuka literally grew up getting to be backstage in WWE, meeting the McMahons, Andre, Hogan, and the rest of the boys. When Dwayne's football career looked to be over, Rocky Johnson, still close to many WWE employees, got his son a shot with WWE. They were very enthusiastic to give a chance to someone they once knew as a smiling young child who would come to shows with his family. They originally played up his heritage when he debuted in WWE. Obviously Rock has left wrestling after accomplishing all he ever could have dreamt of accomplishing. He has become a very successful (and busy) actor and it is hard for him to be available for WWE appearances. Even though he left wrestling behind, he still has a great deal of love and respect for the wrestling business, his family's history in wrestling, and his Samoan culture (seen his tattoos?). Rock is proud of having his father and grandfather inducted and would be upset if he couldn’t be involved due to scheduling conflicts. Likewise his father would not want to be inducted without the involvement of his son. Of course WWE likes being able to have the Rock involved with the Hall of Fame ceremony and WrestleMania weekend. Rock has made very few appearances in the last four years and they certainly are glad the inductions of his family will lead to an appearance from him. Getting a Rock appearance is a fringe benefit, but it’s not like Maivia and Johnson are undeserving. I think it is really unfair to criticize WWE inducting them. They both have solid cases for Hall of Fame inclusion (especially considering previous inductees) and have had close relations to WWE for many years. Also consider that the Maivia/Johnson family extends to more modern day WWE stars such as Yokozuna, Rikishi, and Umaga. |
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Post by Mac on Feb 28, 2008 6:56:03 GMT -5
Depends on what you think "deserving" is.
If you think Johnny Rodz and Bob Orton Jr are worthy then Maivia and Johnson really are. But I can't look past the feeling that The Rock is more important to the two of these guys combined and the WWE would do just about anything to make him part of Mania.
"Deserving"... they're not inducting Mario Mancini and The Mulkey Brothers so every guy going into the HOF has some sort of resume in the industry.
It's all political and laughable IMO, some guys I'ms ure take a lot of pride in being in the HOF but with no voting process that I know of and the fact guys like Randy Savage, Ultimate Warrior, Bruno Sammartino and the likes will probably never get a sniff of a HOF that guys like Orton and Johnson and hell probably Michael Hayes down the line will get into. I'm pretty sure they have alterior motives when it comes to who they put in above actual performance in the business.
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Post by andrew8798 on Feb 28, 2008 19:30:19 GMT -5
Jake Roberts is scheduled to be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame next month. Prowrestling.net has learned that he will be released temporarily from treatment to attend the award and someone will be assigned to keep an eye on him. There are also rumblings that Scott Hall, who is in the same treatment facility in Georgia, might attend the Hall of Fame ceremony with Roberts.
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Feb 28, 2008 22:25:13 GMT -5
Jake Roberts is scheduled to be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame next month. Prowrestling.net has learned that he will be released temporarily from treatment to attend the award and someone will be assigned to keep an eye on him. There are also rumblings that Scott Hall, who is in the same treatment facility in Georgia, might attend the Hall of Fame ceremony with Roberts. Good news, he's inducted. Bad news, he could relapse and we end up with our Sheik/Sherri speech for this year. |
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Feb 28, 2008 22:34:23 GMT -5
Jake Roberts is scheduled to be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame next month. Prowrestling.net has learned that he will be released temporarily from treatment to attend the award and someone will be assigned to keep an eye on him. There are also rumblings that Scott Hall, who is in the same treatment facility in Georgia, might attend the Hall of Fame ceremony with Roberts. Good news, he's inducted. Bad news, he could relapse and we end up with our Sheik/Sherri speech for this year. I loved Sherri's speech. You could tell she was having a great time and she made the night very enjoyable. I don't mean that in a "Oh my God! Sherri's drunk! Ha!" sort of way. It was enjoyable because she was enjoying herself and talking about parts of her career that we enjoy remembering with her. |
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