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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2008 17:52:03 GMT -5
Why don't they just do a freaking Rocky Horror Picture Show stable? YES thats wat WWE Needs. smurf this tranny thing. |
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Post by The Tank on Jul 14, 2008 18:06:11 GMT -5
ROFLCOPTER What's next, face Muhammad Hassan? LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh come now, you silly little moron! Muhammed Hassan can't be a face! He's foreign!!! Oh, you crazy, crazy, silly, silly, silly, crazy BAH GAWD YOU'RE CRAZY little man. |
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Post by Real Folk Bruce on Jul 14, 2008 18:41:18 GMT -5
ROFLCOPTER What's next, face Muhammad Hassan? I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who doesn't like Muhammed Hassan as a face. A babyface foreigner from the country we're at war with. That sounds like a great idea!  |
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Post by rogerworkman on Jul 14, 2008 18:51:09 GMT -5
There's two major things that we need to face before a transgendered character. The first is Stereotypes. It is a rule in wrestling that a foreigner is always SO foreign that they cannot be a different character, they have to be foreign - just like a homosexual HAS to be a homo, not a monster giant heel who just happens to like the penis. Until we overcome these stereotypes as base characters then anything pushing it further just cannot happen.
We are starting to make progress with Burchill and Katie Lea, in that the fact they are english is never really mentioned, but it will take a while to make all foreigners or stereotypes be just a background factor (just look at Kingston, Kofi and Koslov, Vladdie).
Secondly, and as already mentioned, a HUGE part of wrestling fandom and America itself are bigoted, homophobic and against transgendered people. Whatever this stems from (lack of education, tradition, fear of change), the fact of the matter is that it exists. If I were transgendered I don't think I could put myself through the constant barrage of insulting slurs and violence that I would experience.
Going through a sex change is bound to be tough on the person, and its a shame that, in wrestling at least, it is not an equal opportunity job, but the fact of the matter is that it isn't. Men fight Men, Women fight women, some women fight men, but the lines are there and they are distinct - at this moment in time there is no way the lines could be blurred, it just couldnt work.
Hopefully this is the argument you were after.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jul 14, 2008 21:12:18 GMT -5
i like women with vaginas thankyou very much. here's an idea. let's have a babyface russian. Volkolff had a short run as a babyface. It sucked. I really liked him in his early top tier run as a heel (pre-Zukoff days). He actually could work a good match too. |
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Post by Lancers on Jul 14, 2008 21:17:47 GMT -5
Mr. Platonic. The reason why your suggestion didn't go over so well with this board is because you didn't suggest that the transsexual would be wearing a sombrero or being portrayed by Colt Cabana.
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Post by corndog on Jul 14, 2008 21:40:44 GMT -5
Obviously there would have to be an angle here, but I have an idea. In your idea you want a transexual that is actually very passable as a female, and maybe even passable as a good looking girl. Obviously not Adrian Adonis in a granny dress and makeup. Then you put her/him in the women's title division and have her/him/whatever win the belt. However after winning the belt someone reveals that this person is actually a male and cannot win the belt. Obviously this tranny would argue that he/she lives as a female and should be allowed the belt, and it would become a huge controversy. That is just an idea. I know for a fact that this the person would automatically be a heel after it is exposed, because most people in this country do not believe dressing as a women if you are a man, or getting sex changes/surgery to make you look feminine are acceptable behavior.
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Post by Bobby Womack on Jul 14, 2008 21:54:55 GMT -5
transsexualism has been around for a very long time so i dont see how wwe would be 'hip' or 'with the times' by bringing a tranny in, its not exactly a staple of popular youth culture and i dont think the VERY small section of the community that are into transsexuals are a big enough demographic for wwe to care about tapping in to, that is if we are assuming that transsexuals who have never watched the product will be willing to tune in for 5 hours of tv (thats never interested them before) per week just because one of their own is a valet
also the 'attractive sexy transsexual' thing is a little weird, if you dig them thats fine but the majority of males dont find them sexy and many of the ones who do find him/her attractive would be driven away from the product because of the homophobic questions it would bring up in their mind regarding their own sexuality, i know a few guys who refuse to watch springer soley based on the fact that sometimes they find someone good looking only to find out theyre a trannsexual/transvestite which scares the shit out of them about their own sexuality, and those are relatively normal guys, imagine what it would do to a wrestling crowd which is still largely comprised of bigots and rednecks
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Post by salsashark on Jul 14, 2008 21:58:15 GMT -5
Eh, I dunno. There are too many bigots in wrestling audiences to accept it. I don't think there's a way to do it without looking like a cheap publicity stunt, whether as a sappy acceptance thing or as a tasteless cheap heat thing. Specific examples: Some posters in this thread. |
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Post by drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) on Jul 14, 2008 22:03:44 GMT -5
Triple bonus irony, if this does happen, if the transsexual gets popped for steroids.  |
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Post by boomhauer20055 on Jul 14, 2008 22:19:49 GMT -5
They did this angle. Goldust
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