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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Jul 25, 2008 13:59:01 GMT -5
The city had budget cuts Devon. They could no longer afford the 'C'.
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Post by Sickfit, King Of The Fits on Jul 25, 2008 14:09:07 GMT -5
Vicky Vale won't be in these movies, and the problem with having Penguin play the "Everyone loves him because he's lying" bad guy is we already got a whole movie based on that Penguin. While I'm not saying your idea is bad persey, it is to close to what we've already gotten in the past and Nolan is trying to stay away from that. Vicki Vale is nearly synonymous with Batman as his usual love interest, and she is ten times more interesting than Rachel could've ever been, so I think at least including her in the third film is a little more important. And this Penguin is nothing like the last Penguin on screen. This Penguin isn't horribly disfigured, he just happens to slouch and have a long nose, and it's not that everyone loves him, he just happens to rub people the right way. And I believe that a character like the Penguin could be almost Dick Cheney-like in evil. One subplot would be that the Penguin funded the Iraq War and made money of the subsidaries, meaning profits off the deaths of Americans. There's a theme of secret characters involved. While The Penguin is easily liked because of his ties and because of his personalities, he has profited off the deaths of thousands and will profit off the death of Batman. Meanwhile, Batman is considered a murderer, despite ridding the city of the Joker, Ra'as Ghul and had cleaned up the streets. Yet, you could also say that he brought the Penguin to Gotham, yet again raising the question of whether Batman is a real hero or just a beacon for villains to come to Gotham. And Deadshot would be more or less a character that Batman can actually do battle with, since I want the Penguin to show a hierarchy of power. Actually, Batman defeats Deadshot and in an attempt to tarnish Batman's reputation, Deadshot kills himself, with the Penguin then framing Batman for the crime of killing his loyal bodyguard.
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Post by Full Moon on Jul 25, 2008 14:30:47 GMT -5
Slaughter is the best medicine.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Jul 25, 2008 14:51:34 GMT -5
Bale always does a good job and is really being looked over in my opinion. I have a hard time saying who did "better" because they both played their parts great. That said more attention goes onto Heath because the type of role he played draws more attention to it then that of Batman. See, I thought Bale was fairly substandard. There are so many great actors in both Nolan flicks that he cannot keep up. At least in Begins he had Katy stinkin' up the joint, but replacing her with Maggie made it so Bale sticks out even more. he isn't a bad actor by any means, but he has so many good actors around him that it makes him look of a lesser quality(because he is). Also, I give no "best actor in the film" nods to any dude whose vigilante voice sounds like he is desperately trying to not cough.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Jul 25, 2008 14:55:06 GMT -5
See, I on the other hand think Bale has handled the difference between Batman and Bruce Wayne better then any actor before him.
Keaton's Batman was fine, but his Bruce Wayne was pretty much just Batman with no mask on. He was a moody and broody.
Val Kilmer and Clooney... don't count.
Adam West... was the same as Keaton but the other way around. His Batman was JUST like his Bruce, but with a mask on.
Until Bale the only one that ever did that difference correctly to me was Conroy (isn't that his name?) from the animated series.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Jul 25, 2008 15:02:53 GMT -5
Oh, I give Bale credit as the best middle ground(I prefer Kilmer's Wayne, Keaton's bat, but hate the other way around...yeah no), so for the best bats/Wayne, he is the best. Doesn't mean I think he acted that well, the bar really isn't that high.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Jul 25, 2008 15:15:10 GMT -5
Well, at least we argree he is the best combo of all of them. I'm still going to have to agree to disagree on how good he is though. I think Bale is a great actor.
Also, I'm gonna say this here for now because my comp is being funky and its giving me a hard time with PM's. Can you send me that Deadpool in front of the Box Office pic again?
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Jul 25, 2008 15:54:52 GMT -5
Final total for Thursday for Dark Knight was $16,464,405. That doesn't set any records unlike it's other days (not even non-Holiday or non-Opening) but in an intresting note it is the highest Thursday total for any movie more then 3 days into it's release. Eleven movies have higher Thursday totals but all of them were in their 1st (4), 2nd (6) or 3rd (1) day of release and/or landed on a Holiday Thursday (4th of July mainly). Dark Knight was in it's 7th day.
Speaking of 7th day, Dark Knight did set one more record with Thursday's haul, the new Opening Week record. It's total cume after 7 days is now $238,615,211. The previous record holder was Dead Man's Chest at $196,019,502. That means Dark Knight once again puts more space in between it and it's competition with each Opening 4/5/6/7 Days Record it sets. The space this time was +$42,595,709.
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Post by Millie D on Jul 25, 2008 16:07:19 GMT -5
Slaughter is the best medicine. yes it is! lol
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Post by CrazySting on Jul 25, 2008 16:42:12 GMT -5
Bale's Bruce Wayne is especially good, since its basically a lighter version of Patrick Batemen.
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Post by paragon on Jul 25, 2008 16:46:27 GMT -5
Vicki Vale is nearly synonymous with Batman as his usual love interest She is? I associate him with Catwoman and Zatanna as love interests, among others, before I even think of her.
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Post by Batman on Jul 25, 2008 16:48:05 GMT -5
Bale's Bruce Wayne is especially good, since its basically a lighter version of Patrick Batemen. Bale's Bruce Wayne is awesome.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Jul 25, 2008 17:01:04 GMT -5
Vicki Vale is nearly synonymous with Batman as his usual love interest She is? I associate him with Catwoman and Zatanna as love interests, among others, before I even think of her. Or even Talia Al'Ghul amongst comic fans.
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Post by rogerworkman on Jul 25, 2008 19:00:22 GMT -5
Just got back, I really enjoyed it. My dislike of the Batman series was happily countered with my love of Bale. A good solid film that did not feel as long as it was, and was extremely tense in a lot of places. I haven't seen the first but I like the direction they are going for the third.
So far for comic book films I've seen this year:
1)Iron man 2)Dark Knight 3)Hulk 4)30 days of night (Think that was this year)
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Jul 25, 2008 19:13:28 GMT -5
30 Days of Night was last year.
The DVD came out this year though, in February. Maybe that's the mix up?
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Post by rogerworkman on Jul 25, 2008 19:22:02 GMT -5
30 Days of Night was last year. The DVD came out this year though, in February. Maybe that's the mix up? I think I saw it at a local cinema, though. Nov 1st UK release + 2 month or so delay = this year viewing. even so, it came bottom of the list. And if League of Extraordinary Gentlemen had been out this year, it would STILL have been bottom of the list.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Jul 25, 2008 19:24:17 GMT -5
Just saw this. Incredible film, enjoyed every minute and deserving of every bit of hype.
Best part -
"I'M NOT WEARING HOCKEY PAAAAAAAAAAANTS!!"
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Post by paragon on Jul 25, 2008 19:26:53 GMT -5
Just saw this. Incredible film, enjoyed every minute and deserving of every bit of hype. Best part - "I'M NOT WEARING HOCKEY PAAAAAAAAAAANTS!!" I believe he said "pads," not "pants."
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Jul 25, 2008 19:44:23 GMT -5
Well, at least we argree he is the best combo of all of them. I'm still going to have to agree to disagree on how good he is though. I think Bale is a great actor. Also, I'm gonna say this here for now because my comp is being funky and its giving me a hard time with PM's. Can you send me that Deadpool in front of the Box Office pic again? Bale is a great actor, I just don't think this is the best role for him and his weaknesses show more because of guys like Caine, Freeman, and Eckhart absolutely owning every scene they are in. Let me put it this way, Bale is the weakest link in a awesomely strong chain. I just saw it again, one f the worst movie going experiences I have ever had. I hate people. And yeah Widdle Wadey I can get that for ya. Just need to find it.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Jul 25, 2008 19:56:14 GMT -5
Just saw this. Incredible film, enjoyed every minute and deserving of every bit of hype. Best part - "I'M NOT WEARING HOCKEY PAAAAAAAAAAANTS!!" I believe he said "pads," not "pants." Hockey is an alien concept over here, pants sounded a lot better!!
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