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Post by Tyfo on Sept 17, 2008 14:32:22 GMT -5
The Wrestling Observer is reporting that prior to his debut, one idea pitched for SmackDown Superstar Ryan Braddock was for him to be brought in as the cousin of John Bradshaw Layfield. However, Layfield saw him work a few dark matches and felt Braddock projected himself too much as a mid-carder. As a result, Layfield nixed the idea. WWE felt that Braddock had been in developmental forever and needed to justify their investment in him, hence his recent call-up to the main roster. However, he appears to be in the James Curtis position of putting over wrestlers getting pushed. The feeling is that guys will get over with wins over Braddock because he's a big guy. Also, Braddock did a gimmick similar to JBL for years in developmental by wearing a white towel and short black jacket.
That's great, coming from a guy who spent his whole career as a midcarder up until 2004.
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Post by Mayhem on Sept 17, 2008 14:40:05 GMT -5
Really. World Title or not, I never saw JBL as anything more than the midcarder he always was. That was one reason I hated his title reign. Lame.
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Sept 17, 2008 15:26:24 GMT -5
This so weird because I had almost the same idea. My idea was he would be JBL's nephew and his protege, with his name being Jay Bradley Layfield. This is just weird.
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Post by jdanknich on Sept 17, 2008 15:36:20 GMT -5
I know that JBL has the reputation of being a backstage bully, so I guess I'm not surprised he nixed this angle. Quite frankly, I think his days are once again numbered. He's woefully out of shape, his knees are shot and his wrestling god schtick just isn't working anymore. I doubt the powers that be would do it or that JBL himself would want to, but I'd wonder about an angle with JBL losing his money because of the recent stock market troubles and having to go back to his roots. Maybe a face turn wouldn't work, but it'd be better than the same old thing he's been doing since he came back to the active roster.
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on Sept 17, 2008 15:38:48 GMT -5
I know that JBL has the reputation of being a backstage bully, so I guess I'm not surprised he nixed this angle. Quite frankly, I think his days are once again numbered. He's woefully out of shape, his knees are shot and his wrestling god schtick just isn't working anymore. I doubt the powers that be would do it or that JBL himself would want to, but I'd wonder about an angle with JBL losing his money because of the recent stock market troubles and having to go back to his roots. Maybe a face turn wouldn't work, but it'd be better than the same old thing he's been doing since he came back to the active roster. He's still getting some of the biggest boos of the night. How can you say that it's not working? |
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Post by jdanknich on Sept 17, 2008 15:42:14 GMT -5
I know that JBL has the reputation of being a backstage bully, so I guess I'm not surprised he nixed this angle. Quite frankly, I think his days are once again numbered. He's woefully out of shape, his knees are shot and his wrestling god schtick just isn't working anymore. I doubt the powers that be would do it or that JBL himself would want to, but I'd wonder about an angle with JBL losing his money because of the recent stock market troubles and having to go back to his roots. Maybe a face turn wouldn't work, but it'd be better than the same old thing he's been doing since he came back to the active roster. He's still getting some of the biggest boos of the night. How can you say that it's not working? I'll give you that, but is he getting legit heat or "Oh my god, you are so annoying, please go away" heat? But I guess heat is heat, so whatever works for him. I just wish they'd do something to freshen his character up, even just a bit. |
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Post by Tapout on Sept 17, 2008 15:45:08 GMT -5
Uh, the guy is one of the best heels in the company and is probably the single best talker employed by the WWE at this time.
Yeah, he's not all that great when wrestling an actual match, but he's great at pretty much everything else. And in WWE, wrestling great matches plays second fiddle to getting over, which can be done through superior mic work (like JBL) or by jobbing left and right (like Santino).
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Sept 17, 2008 15:47:38 GMT -5
He's still getting some of the biggest boos of the night. How can you say that it's not working? I'll give you that, but is he getting legit heat or "Oh my god, you are so annoying, please go away" heat? But I guess heat is heat, so whatever works for him. I just wish they'd do something to freshen his character up, even just a bit. Heat is heat, and as there is no way to decipher if the fans are actually thinking that, he'll continue to be out there. |
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Post by Marksus on Sept 17, 2008 15:50:44 GMT -5
JBL would make an excellent manager, he could turn Braddock and/or Spears into Wrestling Gods....
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Post by Slinky on Sept 17, 2008 15:55:09 GMT -5
JBL can do the basics of wrestling, which is more than many can do in the WWE.
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Post by Handsome Halfbreed on Sept 17, 2008 15:55:16 GMT -5
JBL is a glorified midcard/semi main event guy who should have never been world champ. He doesn't have the look, the wrestling ability and most importantly a storied history of past championships or accomplishments. Yeah the guy could talk hence the reason why he was the best color guy since Jesse Ventura and thats where he should of stayed.
As for Bradley Jay.... Ryan Braddock should count his blessings. As well as not being a strong performer, JBL doesn't seem the type to be an effective leader for the young guys.
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Post by jdanknich on Sept 17, 2008 15:55:37 GMT -5
Uh, the guy is one of the best heels in the company and is probably the single best talker employed by the WWE at this time. Yeah, he's not all that great when wrestling an actual match, but he's great at pretty much everything else. And in WWE, wrestling great matches plays second fiddle to getting over, which can be done through superior mic work (like JBL) or by jobbing left and right (like Santino). Unfortunately, you're 100% right about getting over. And a lot of it is just a personal distaste I have for JBL, so my comments are shaded by that. |
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Post by BHB on Sept 17, 2008 16:09:23 GMT -5
He's still got some of the biggest boobs of the night. Fixed. |
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Sept 17, 2008 19:08:33 GMT -5
Being JBL's cousin doesn't sound like a huge push to begin with, so it's not like JBL is holding him down.
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Post by Rorschach on Sept 17, 2008 19:33:44 GMT -5
Uh, the guy is one of the best heels in the company and is probably the single best talker employed by the WWE at this time. Yeah, he's not all that great when wrestling an actual match, but he's great at pretty much everything else. And in WWE, wrestling great matches plays second fiddle to getting over, which can be done through superior mic work (like JBL) or by jobbing left and right (like Santino). Would like to point out to you that Jibbles has been jobbing left and right recently too. Especially to a certain CM Punk, who has OWNED JBL every single time out. Also, love the idea of Bradshaw going broke as part of stock market crash. Couple this with the utter emasculation of the Charlie Haas thing, and if WWE had good writers, they could make something of it. |
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Post by BrianZane on Sept 17, 2008 20:55:00 GMT -5
He's still got some of the biggest boobs of the night. How can you say that it's not working? Fixed. |
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Post by Rorschach on Sept 17, 2008 21:12:06 GMT -5
This could work.....
In the locker-room, JBL sits alone, holding a sheet of paper in his hand. His face is blank, and ashen. As the camera man comes up, JBL looks at him and says:
JBL: It's gone. All gone. My companies are going under....I'm on the brink of ruin. Punk has defeated me time and time and time again.....and my GOD, look at my BODY! I'm falling apart! This....this is the end for JBL. I am finished. Done. Might as well just go home for good.
He sits down on the bench, and buries his head in his hands. Offscreen, we hear footsteps approaching and see a pair of black boots come into the frame. Camera pans up and we see RON SIMMONS.
Simmons: ......
Simmons: .......
Simmons: (Crowd is waiting for the DAMN! but instead...) John. Look at me John. Up here. I know you aint no quitter, John Layfield. You never have been, and aint never gonna be. You made yourself a millionaire once, and by God you can do it again. But you know what I think you need right now? I think you need a shot of the "Good Ol Days". You wanna go grab a beer or five, and then come back here and kick the hell out of some young punk asses?
JBL: *Smiling* You DAMN right I do!
Camera fades out as the two old friends walk out of the building.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Sept 17, 2008 21:15:41 GMT -5
This could work..... In the locker-room, JBL sits alone, holding a sheet of paper in his hand. His face is blank, and ashen. As the camera man comes up, JBL looks at him and says: JBL: It's gone. All gone. My companies are going under....I'm on the brink of ruin. Punk has defeated me time and time and time again.....and my GOD, look at my BODY! I'm falling apart! This....this is the end for JBL. I am finished. Done. Might as well just go home for good. He sits down on the bench, and buries his head in his hands. Offscreen, we hear footsteps approaching and see a pair of black boots come into the frame. Camera pans up and we see RON SIMMONS. Simmons: ...... Simmons: ....... Simmons: (Crowd is waiting for the DAMN! but instead...) John. Look at me John. Up here. I know you aint no quitter, John Layfield. You never have been, and aint never gonna be. You made yourself a millionaire once, and by God you can do it again. But you know what I think you need right now? I think you need a shot of the "Good Ol Days". You wanna go grab a beer or five, and then come back here and kick the hell out of some young punk asses? JBL: *Smiling* You DAMN right I do! Camera fades out as the two old friends walk out of the building. I would mark stupidly hard if that were to happen. |
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Post by Andrew is Good on Sept 17, 2008 21:17:19 GMT -5
Hmm. I disagree with that.
When I saw him, I always felt he had a main event presence about him, that's actually one of the things I liked about Ryan Braddock when he was in Deep South and Ohio Valley.
I understand JBL's point, but the problem I feel is, he would have been brought in as a midcarder anyway, whether he got the rub from JBL or not. Plus, people do eventually come into their own. I feel JBL should have at least given him a chance.
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Post by kitsunestar on Sept 17, 2008 21:27:08 GMT -5
I have to think this is complete smarkbait, just like "Too Asian". Someone somewhere read the "Jay Bradley Layfield" post, and blew it up as a rumor, and things spiralled.
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