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Post by MGH on Dec 29, 2008 19:51:06 GMT -5
Honestly, what has Dallas done to deserve such hate? Other than the constant media coverage, but then again going by that any popular team with tons of media coverage deserves to be hated. Yanks ... Sox (maybe their fans more than the team) .... Lakers .... Celtics (not so much now) .... a lot of them are hated with vigor.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Dec 29, 2008 19:55:40 GMT -5
I personally hate them because they were labeled as "America's Team" back in the early 90's.
That bothered me.
A NFL team full of guys that get arrested after the best years of a franchise do not make "America's Team" -- well, it shouldn't at least.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 29, 2008 19:56:04 GMT -5
Honestly, what has Dallas done to deserve such hate? Other than the constant media coverage, but then again going by that any popular team with tons of media coverage deserves to be hated. Yanks ... Sox (maybe their fans more than the team) .... Lakers .... Celtics (not so much now) .... a lot of them are hated with vigor. But I never understand WHY. Is it because they are popular? Is that it? If so, than people need to get over it. Yeah they are popular. Big whoop, is that really a valid reason to make fun of the teams and their fans? A valid reason would have to be an epic fail, like the 0-16 Lions, or the 18-1 Patriots, or, yes even the self destructed Dallas and Denver of this year. Teams should only be made fun of when there is a valid reason to. I mean, take for example, the only time this season I made fun of the Texans was when Parsley, Sage, and Rosemary Seasoning Salt Rosenfels choked away the Colts games. And hell, even The Wraith rips on Rosenfels for that. When a team's own fans rip on the team should be when everyone that isn't a fan of a rival team should get to rip on them. So, yeah right now is a valid time to rip on Dallas and Denver.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 29, 2008 19:57:01 GMT -5
I personally hate them because they were labeled as "America's Team" back in the early 90's. That bothered me. A NFL team full of guys that get arrested after the best years of a franchise do not make "America's Team" -- well, it shouldn't at least. If I remember they got called America's Team back in the 70s or 80s when they won a good chunk of their Super Bowls.
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 29, 2008 20:02:19 GMT -5
I personally hate them because they were labeled as "America's Team" back in the early 90's. That bothered me. A NFL team full of guys that get arrested after the best years of a franchise do not make "America's Team" -- well, it shouldn't at least. If I remember they got called America's Team back in the 70s or 80s when they won a good chunk of their Super Bowls. Bob Ryan the Vice President and editor-in-chief of NFL Films came up with the America's Team nickname. Some more info
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Post by S-Chrome on Dec 29, 2008 20:10:39 GMT -5
Honestly, what has Dallas done to deserve such hate? Other than the constant media coverage, but then again going by that any popular team with tons of media coverage deserves to be hated. Welcome to the world of the hated sports franchises. Still, compared to the Fall of 2004, this is nothing.
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 29, 2008 20:11:01 GMT -5
AP source: 2010 Pro Bowl will be in Miami
By TIM REYNOLDS – 1 hour ago
MIAMI (AP) — The Pro Bowl will be played one week before the Super Bowl in 2010 and both games will be staged in Dolphin Stadium, a person directly involved in the decision told The Associated Press on Monday.
The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the NFL has not announced the move.
It's not a new notion to have the game moved up to take place between the conference championship games and the Super Bowl. The NFL has discussed it multiple times in recent years, and commissioner Roger Goodell told the AP last month that having the game precede the Super Bowl would avoid a "somewhat anticlimactic" ending to the season.
The Pro Bowl has been held in Honolulu since 1980, and it's probable that the game will return to Hawaii after 2010, although not on the permanent basis as has been the case over the last three decades.
It won't be South Florida's first Pro Bowl: the 1975 game took place in Miami's Orange Bowl, during a period when the site rotated annually.
Barring a schedule change, next season's Pro Bowl will take place Jan. 31, 2010, with the Super Bowl that year on Feb. 7. The league's plan is for players on the AFC and NFC championship squads not to take part in the Pro Bowl.
Miami was awarded the 2010 Super Bowl three years ago, a record 10th time the game will come to the Dolphins' home city. The notion of adding the Pro Bowl to the lineup in South Florida was first discussed several months ago. It's not clear when the final decision was made to move the game.
Hawaii tourism officials have lobbied in recent months to extend the game's current contract, which expires after this season's Pro Bowl, pointing to the fact that it's been sold out every year since moving to Honolulu and generates about $30.5 million in visitor spending and tax revenues.
And earlier this year, Hawaii's state government released $11 million for lighting and roofing improvements at Aloha Stadium, part of ongoing upgrades designed to refurbish and modernize the aging stadium. State officials have also considered demolishing the facility and building a new stadium.
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Post by megaman2184 on Dec 29, 2008 20:13:50 GMT -5
I grew up hating the 'Girls since I was a Houston Oilers fan back in the day. Also for their bandwagon fan label. They have the worse fan base here in Texas. They are no where to be found when the team is losing but when they start winning, oh watch out: Car flags, t-shirts bought from the flea market, stupid "#1 Cowboy fan" bumper stickers and thats not touching the knowledge that most fans got and with an IQ of a rock on their team. They have became the Yankees of football with a fantasy football minded owner thinking you can just buy a championship.
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Post by Mr. Backlund on Dec 29, 2008 20:14:22 GMT -5
I've got nothing more against the Cowboys than any other NFC East team, but the reason Dallas gets so much ire from everyone else stems from Jerry Jones and his ego. The Cowboys haven't been terrible in recent history, but to listen to the guy, you'd think the Cowboys have won every year and deserve to win when they don't. His constant need for attention and proclaiming the team to be something more than it is really annoys people and, coupled with ESPN realizing how polarizing the team is and how they can use them to get viewers by having Ed Werder stationed in Jerry's colon with hourly reports, it just gets.....obnoxious and old very fast.
That personality just permeates the entire organization and makes it obnoxious to most. Wade Phillip's "The better team lost" last year in the playoffs when the Giants beat them, "Get your ring finger ready" in preseason, Terrance Newman's "We've got the best talent in the NFL, but that doesn't always get the job done" and on and on. The team is not very gracious in defeat and even more annoying in victory.
Add in the fact that Terrell Owens is a head case who makes it easy to hate him and whatever team he's playing for and Pacman Jones and Tank Johnson and.....
Get the picture?
Its a conglomerate of egomaniacal juveniles who make it very difficult not to enjoy them falling flat. Basically, when you're cheering for the Cowboys, you're cheering for every evil team in all of those Disney sports movies that we were taught to despise growing up. It's like the Hawks and Iceland joined up with Skeletar as the owner.
That, in summation, is the Dallas Cowboys to the outside viewer.
I respect the Cowboys fans on this site that display they know what they're talking about, but do have to say, they suffer greatly from Bandwagon-itis, making them that much more annoying.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 29, 2008 20:14:36 GMT -5
Yanks ... Sox (maybe their fans more than the team) .... Lakers .... Celtics (not so much now) .... a lot of them are hated with vigor. But I never understand WHY. Is it because they are popular? Is that it? If so, than people need to get over it. Yeah they are popular. Big whoop, is that really a valid reason to make fun of the teams and their fans? A valid reason would have to be an epic fail, like the 0-16 Lions, or the 18-1 Patriots, or, yes even the self destructed Dallas and Denver of this year. Teams should only be made fun of when there is a valid reason to. I mean, take for example, the only time this season I made fun of the Texans was when Parsley, Sage, and Rosemary Seasoning Salt Rosenfels choked away the Colts games. And hell, even The Wraith rips on Rosenfels for that. When a team's own fans rip on the team should be when everyone that isn't a fan of a rival team should get to rip on them. So, yeah right now is a valid time to rip on Dallas and Denver. See, for me. I LIKE the position the Cowboys are in. You really don't have an in-between about 'em; you're either a fan or you just hate 'em. I dig that polarization as a fan. Makes things more fun.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 29, 2008 20:17:45 GMT -5
All that said, I do realize if you threw rocks at me and about ten other Cowboy fans, probably at least six of those hit would be bandwagon guys.
That kinda sucks, but whatcha gonna do?
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Dec 29, 2008 20:18:26 GMT -5
I personally hate them because they were labeled as "America's Team" back in the early 90's. That bothered me. A NFL team full of guys that get arrested after the best years of a franchise do not make "America's Team" -- well, it shouldn't at least. If I remember they got called America's Team back in the 70s or 80s when they won a good chunk of their Super Bowls. You weren't even born in the 70's... Heh. The media didn't bring the moniker back into the national lexicon until the second time they beat the Bills. Damn Bills. My favorite team growing up... Why couldn't you bring home a ring, Mr Kelly? WHY?!
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Post by The Wraith on Dec 29, 2008 20:18:42 GMT -5
I've got nothing more against the Cowboys than any other NFC East team, but the reason Dallas gets so much ire from everyone else stems from Jerry Jones and his ego. The Cowboys haven't been terrible in recent history, but to listen to the guy, you'd think the Cowboys have won every year and deserve to win when they don't. His constant need for attention and proclaiming the team to be something more than it is really annoys people and, coupled with ESPN realizing how polarizing the team is and how they can use them to get viewers by having Ed Werder stationed in Jerry's colon with hourly reports, it just gets.....obnoxious and old very fast. That personality just permeates the entire organization and makes it obnoxious to most. Wade Phillip's "The better team lost" last year in the playoffs when the Giants beat them, "Get your ring finger ready" in preseason, Terrance Newman's "We've got the best talent in the NFL, but that doesn't always get the job done" and on and on. The team is not very gracious in defeat and even more annoying in victory. Add in the fact that Terrell Owens is a head case who makes it easy to hate him and whatever team he's playing for and Pacman Jones and Tank Johnson and..... Get the picture? Its a conglomerate of egomaniacal juveniles who make it very difficult not to enjoy them falling flat. Basically, when you're cheering for the Cowboys, you're cheering for every evil team in all of those Disney sports movies that we were taught to despise growing up. It's like the Hawks and Iceland joined up with Skeletar as the owner. That, in summation, is the Dallas Cowboys to the outside viewer. I respect the Cowboys fans on this site that display they know what they're talking about, but do have to say, they suffer greatly from Bandwagon-itis, making them that much more annoying.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Dec 29, 2008 20:19:29 GMT -5
Although, usually the teams with the most hate are the teams that also have fans that love their franchise.
See: Yankees, New York; Red Sox, Boston; Cowboys, Dallas; Lakers, Los Angeles.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 29, 2008 20:20:32 GMT -5
But I never understand WHY. Is it because they are popular? Is that it? If so, than people need to get over it. Yeah they are popular. Big whoop, is that really a valid reason to make fun of the teams and their fans? A valid reason would have to be an epic fail, like the 0-16 Lions, or the 18-1 Patriots, or, yes even the self destructed Dallas and Denver of this year. Teams should only be made fun of when there is a valid reason to. I mean, take for example, the only time this season I made fun of the Texans was when Parsley, Sage, and Rosemary Seasoning Salt Rosenfels choked away the Colts games. And hell, even The Wraith rips on Rosenfels for that. When a team's own fans rip on the team should be when everyone that isn't a fan of a rival team should get to rip on them. So, yeah right now is a valid time to rip on Dallas and Denver. See, for me. I LIKE the position the Cowboys are in. You really don't have an in-between about 'em; you're either a fan or you just hate 'em. I dig that polarization as a fan. Makes things more fun. Well I guess you are right. I mean yeah, if they lose we have to put up with everyone else hating on them, but if they win, we get to be happy. Plus the more people hate them, the easier it is to tell the real fans from the fake fans. Hell now I know what the Pats fans had to feel like last year during & after the Super Bowl. The way everyone that wasn't a Pats' fan reacted towards the team, you'd think each and every team member raped everyone in your family. I was just backing the Giants just cause I rather have the team I lost to win the Super Bowl.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 29, 2008 20:20:55 GMT -5
I've got nothing more against the Cowboys than any other NFC East team, but the reason Dallas gets so much ire from everyone else stems from Jerry Jones and his ego. The Cowboys haven't been terrible in recent history, but to listen to the guy, you'd think the Cowboys have won every year and deserve to win when they don't. His constant need for attention and proclaiming the team to be something more than it is really annoys people and, coupled with ESPN realizing how polarizing the team is and how they can use them to get viewers by having Ed Werder stationed in Jerry's colon with hourly reports, it just gets.....obnoxious and old very fast. That personality just permeates the entire organization and makes it obnoxious to most. Wade Phillip's "The better team lost" last year in the playoffs when the Giants beat them, "Get your ring finger ready" in preseason, Terrance Newman's "We've got the best talent in the NFL, but that doesn't always get the job done" and on and on. The team is not very gracious in defeat and even more annoying in victory. Add in the fact that Terrell Owens is a head case who makes it easy to hate him and whatever team he's playing for and Pacman Jones and Tank Johnson and..... Get the picture? Its a conglomerate of egomaniacal juveniles who make it very difficult not to enjoy them falling flat. Basically, when you're cheering for the Cowboys, you're cheering for every evil team in all of those Disney sports movies that we were taught to despise growing up. It's like the Hawks and Iceland joined up with Skeletar as the owner. That, in summation, is the Dallas Cowboys to the outside viewer. I respect the Cowboys fans on this site that display they know what they're talking about, but do have to say, they suffer greatly from Bandwagon-itis, making them that much more annoying. I rooted for both Al Bundy and the Little Cowboys in that film.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 29, 2008 20:22:26 GMT -5
If I remember they got called America's Team back in the 70s or 80s when they won a good chunk of their Super Bowls. You weren't even born in the 70's... Heh. The media didn't bring the moniker back into the national lexicon until the second time they beat the Bills. Damn Bills. My favorite team growing up... Why couldn't you bring home a ring, Mr Kelly? WHY?! It may not have been national, but it was still around.. granted they SUUUUUCKED for most of the 80's. I wish Jim woulda got a ring too. Those Bills teams were awesome.* * at the expense of the hated Redskins and Giants of course.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Dec 29, 2008 20:24:24 GMT -5
You weren't even born in the 70's... Heh. The media didn't bring the moniker back into the national lexicon until the second time they beat the Bills. Damn Bills. My favorite team growing up... Why couldn't you bring home a ring, Mr Kelly? WHY?! It may not have been national, but it was still around.. granted they SUUUUUCKED for most of the 80's. I wish Jim woulda got a ring too. Those Bills teams were awesome.* * at the expense of the hated Redskins and Giants of course. Yes, I fully agree. Thurman Thomas, Bruce Smith, James Loften, Andre Reed, hell, even Kenny Davis and Cornealius Bennet should have won a ring. *sigh* I still say, the laces were out on Norwood's kick. THEY WERE OUT! I used to LOVE Little Giants, and that movie almost got me to root for them. Almost. I have never forgave them for beating the Bills in that Super Bowl though.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Dec 29, 2008 20:25:51 GMT -5
And yes, I know it's irrational, but it's the way I think, sports-wise.
I also pick who's going to win by the better logo, so there you go.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 29, 2008 20:27:19 GMT -5
heh.
I feel for poor Scott Norwood. People hate on the poor kickers when they miss those, but if you think about it, the rest of the team shouldn't put 'em in that position.
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