Lupin the Third
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Post by Lupin the Third on Jan 2, 2009 20:30:51 GMT -5
I watched the movie the other day, he lightly pushed Mickey out of the way and somehow that gave him a heart attack. Maybe by that point, Mickey was as delicate as glass.
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MolotovMocktail
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Jan 2, 2009 21:58:39 GMT -5
I'd say so. Even after he won the title, he was still a mean-spirited, violent thug. Even Drago hinted at some respect for Rocky after their fight, but Lang presumably just went back to the streets of Chicago and never changed at all.
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Post by renzino on Jan 2, 2009 22:11:14 GMT -5
I thought he went full blown heel when he told Adrian to come over to his apartment and see a real man. Hey Woman!
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Post by Nacho STAYS Hyped on Jan 2, 2009 22:18:11 GMT -5
He was a heel because he was an ass to everybody.
Even when Apollo was trying to be polite and shake his hand, Clubber was talking about how he didn't want nothing Apollo didn't have no mo. And he threatened to knock that bad look off of his face. Fool.
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erisi236
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Post by erisi236 on Jan 2, 2009 22:18:53 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that every line that Clubber says is awesome. Come on Creed!
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Garee
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Post by Garee on Jan 2, 2009 22:45:23 GMT -5
He was a heel, though he was being dodged by Rocky (who wasn't even aware he was doing so) He openly taunted Rocky in public, including taunting the mans wife. These are heel tatics in my mind. He then attacked a room full of photographers, and attacked Rocky before the fight, (which led to the death of Mickey) He did not kill Mickey, just was part of what led to his death. Again heel tatics. I think I'm thinking too much about this...
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@TenaciousBe
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Post by @TenaciousBe on Jan 2, 2009 23:23:25 GMT -5
I don't even think Drago was a heel, he actually had a good heart inside that robot body of his. He was just a tool of them damn Russkies.
Clubber, on the other hand, TOTAL heel. I don't see how that's even a question. Clubber was an a-hole to everybody he talked to.
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Post by chibidiablo on Jan 2, 2009 23:23:49 GMT -5
Clubber Lang = Babyface Stone Cold
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Post by tmc1982 on Jan 3, 2009 1:51:25 GMT -5
I watched the movie the other day, he lightly pushed Mickey out of the way and somehow that gave him a heart attack. Mickey already pretty sick during the Thunderlips match. So in a way, wasn't his heart attack his own fault, for not going to get medical attention right away?
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Post by Cela on Jan 3, 2009 2:41:18 GMT -5
I don't even think Drago was a heel If he dies, he dies!= face
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Post by amsiraK on Jan 3, 2009 10:54:28 GMT -5
He was a heel, though he was being dodged by Rocky (who wasn't even aware he was doing so) He openly taunted Rocky in public, including taunting the mans wife. These are heel tatics in my mind. He then attacked a room full of photographers, and attacked Rocky before the fight, (which led to the death of Mickey) He did not kill Mickey, just was part of what led to his death. Again heel tatics. I think I'm thinking too much about this... Bingo! Add to that the age-old heel tactic of interrupting someone's celebration/good time/in-ring wedding to threaten them and it's definitely Heeldom for good ol' Clubber.
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Post by respectmeordye3 on Jan 3, 2009 11:18:54 GMT -5
heel....anyone who has a terrible hairstyle like that should be considered a heel.
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Jan 3, 2009 16:53:59 GMT -5
Heel. It's Rocky's story, that makes him the face.
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livetowin
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Post by livetowin on Jan 3, 2009 20:31:33 GMT -5
He was as much of a heel as George Foreman was, really.
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Post by livetowin on Jan 3, 2009 20:41:57 GMT -5
I don't even think Drago was a heel If he dies, he dies!= face Drago is really just telling folks like it is. If soemone dies..then they die, no one can bring them back. Also, the line "I must break you." He doesn't say "I want to break you," he was simply a tool of the Soviets. After all....He fights for him. FOR HIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!
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Post by Mr. Nice on Jan 3, 2009 21:24:17 GMT -5
Sure he was played off as a villain, but he needed to get his attention somehow. Rocky was underestimating him and he had to do what he had to do to get his shot. Drago just f***ed everyone up but i don't think he was a heel either, the "if he dies, he dies" line was telling it like it is. It was Apolo's fault for boxing in the first place.
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hughmorris
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Post by hughmorris on Jan 3, 2009 21:50:48 GMT -5
Clubber=heal but what happened to Rocky/Clubber III?
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Post by Professor Chaos on Jan 3, 2009 21:51:39 GMT -5
Eh fool, you ready for anotha beatin? You shoulda neva came back.
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Post by BRV on Jan 3, 2009 23:24:59 GMT -5
This brings up another question: in "Rocky Balboa", what exactly makes Mason Dixon the bad guy? He's the champion, but he's fighting weak opponents, through no fault of his own. The level of competition is watered down and he's fighting whoever is available, but he gets booed and pelted with cups because he just knocked his opponent out?
And he's not even that much of a dick. He's rich, but he seems like he wants to get away from it all, like the scene where he leaves his mansion to go watch videos of his fight...granted, its in his SUV, but its still watching your fights and trying to pick your mistakes.
And his only real contact with Rocky ends with, "Look old man, I'm the world friggin' champion and I don't want to kill you, so be cool in the ring and I'll allow you the dignity of walking out of the arena."
I really don't get why he's the bad guy.
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Post by thesunbeast on Jan 4, 2009 2:37:35 GMT -5
It's not the what, it's the why. That's the thing, many people don't understand right and wrong properly, as there are 2 levels to them. The second level of right and wrong is always more important than the first level, and why is always more important than the how or what. You have right, and you have wrong, which is what children learn, but then, you have right things that are done for right reasons, wrong things that are done for the wrong reasons, wrong things that are done for the right reasons, and right things that are done for the wrong reasons. The reason's are always more important than the "thing", and which defines the overall situation as right or wrong. There's also a right way and a wrong way to go about something.
Clubber Lang was definitely a heel, mabe he was liked, mabe not, but he was definitely wrong. Clubber didn't seem to know that there's a right and wrong way to go about something. He had a situation that he needed to fix, and he went about it the wrong way. Some people get robbed, that dosen't make it right to go out and rob someone else to get your money back. Interrupting a retirement speech, hitting on his wife, and pushing a 78 your old mentor causing his death isn't the right way to handle a guy that didn't give you a title shot. So, Clubber Lang was definitely wrong.
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