dannyrctv
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Post by dannyrctv on Sept 28, 2008 22:42:11 GMT -5
It really ticks me off how in '92 they said Savage had to have someone throw him over the top rope so there fore he was allowed back in but pretty much every royal rumble there after anyone intentionally jumping over the top rope is eliminated as in the case with Mil Mascaras. I interviewed Mil about that and he kayfabed me saying he didn't understand the rules because in Mexico it's okay to jump over the top rope in battle royals as long as you weren't thrown over by someone.
And it makes no sense at all how an eliminated guy can jump back in the ring and throw someone else out and it counts.such as mentioned with Farooq & Ahmed Johnson or Kurt Angle & Sean Michaels.It's not supposed to or at least it shouldn't even in the "Scripted" world of "sports entertainment".
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Sept 28, 2008 22:51:41 GMT -5
It really ticks me off how in '92 they said Savage had to have someone throw him over the top rope so there fore he was allowed back in but pretty much every royal rumble there after anyone intentionally jumping over the top rope is eliminated as in the case with Mil Mascaras. I interviewed Mil about that and he kayfabed me saying he didn't understand the rules because in Mexico it's okay to jump over the top rope in battle royals as long as you weren't thrown over by someone. And it makes no sense at all how an eliminated guy can jump back in the ring and throw someone else out and it counts.such as mentioned with Farooq & Ahmed Johnson or Kurt Angle & Sean Michaels.It's not supposed to or at least it shouldn't even in the "Scripted" world of "sports entertainment". Of for that matter, how a guy who's not even involved in the match at all can come in and eliminate people and have it count, like with Giant Gonzalez back in 93 and even the Big Show in the Smackdown Battle Royal about a month back.
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Post by blef on Sept 29, 2008 12:22:53 GMT -5
It really ticks me off how in '92 they said Savage had to have someone throw him over the top rope so there fore he was allowed back in but pretty much every royal rumble there after anyone intentionally jumping over the top rope is eliminated as in the case with Mil Mascaras. I interviewed Mil about that and he kayfabed me saying he didn't understand the rules because in Mexico it's okay to jump over the top rope in battle royals as long as you weren't thrown over by someone. And it makes no sense at all how an eliminated guy can jump back in the ring and throw someone else out and it counts.such as mentioned with Farooq & Ahmed Johnson or Kurt Angle & Sean Michaels.It's not supposed to or at least it shouldn't even in the "Scripted" world of "sports entertainment". Of for that matter, how a guy who's not even involved in the match at all can come in and eliminate people and have it count, like with Giant Gonzalez back in 93 and even the Big Show in the Smackdown Battle Royal about a month back. In cases like this (and many MANY others): script > reality.
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Post by bobolebowski on Sept 30, 2008 14:00:16 GMT -5
Goldust in 2006. RVD hits him with a spin kick or something and the ring is too crowded but Goldust happens to stumble backwards squeeze in between two guys and kind of throws himself out.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Sept 30, 2008 15:42:49 GMT -5
Was Michaels' "elimination" in '95 really an accident? If so, I'd consider it a blessing in disguise considering it hammered in the official rule about two feet touching the floor and allowed for many spots that wouldn't be possible if one foot would eliminate someone. Nah, it was planned. He says in his book Vince didn't want him to milk it. Just basically, skin the cat......but Shawn being Shawn milked it.
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Post by johnnytightlips on Oct 4, 2008 23:23:29 GMT -5
Would anyone consider the Undertaker's elimination in '93 an error when it was done by a non-participant.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2008 2:29:33 GMT -5
Technically the 08 Rumbles still goin Hornswoggle never got eliminated
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Oct 5, 2008 2:48:00 GMT -5
^ And Scotty 2 Hotty won the 2005 Rumble. Remember in that match Scotty was beaten up by Muhammad Hassan before entering the ring. The Rumble's conclusion saw both Cena and Batista eliminating each other at the same time. So Scotty simply had to run out and enter the ring and he could of been Wrestlemania bound ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) It might of saved Vince McMahon's quads. Also I often heard the end of the 05 Rumble (mentioned above) was screwed up. Apparently Batista was supposed to hang to the ropes. Thats why Vince looked pissed off when he was walking to the ring. I bet he got even more pissed when his quads went.
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Post by thesam07 on Oct 5, 2008 2:59:17 GMT -5
^ And Spike Dudley in the 2004 Royal Rumble.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 5, 2008 3:57:33 GMT -5
what about the fact that Maven was never actually eliminated from the 2002 after getting the beatdown from Taker They did have him harp on about that kayfabe wise, with him foolishly trying to pick a bone about it with Taker and getting utterly creamed, if I remember correctly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2008 10:16:38 GMT -5
I've never been sure if Mil Mascaras' elimination was planned that way or if he simply forgot the stipulations. Considering the way he's been portrayed by a number of Wrestlers (Mick Foley being the best example) it would not surprise me if he had told Vince that the only way he'd be in the rumble is if he eliminated himself. The Torch called Ahmed & Mil's elimination spots "refusing to job like a man". Knowing how the two of them operate, was there really any surprise? "Get yourself over, screw everybody else."
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Post by Joe Neglia on Oct 5, 2008 10:32:13 GMT -5
Was Michaels' "elimination" in '95 really an accident? If so, I'd consider it a blessing in disguise considering it hammered in the official rule about two feet touching the floor and allowed for many spots that wouldn't be possible if one foot would eliminate someone. This right here is why I was dying to see Zach Gowen participate in a Royal Rumble. I don't mean that as a joke either - there was potential in an angle where he used his situation to get around the "BOTH feet touching the floor" rule.
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Post by Macho Dude Handy Damage on Oct 5, 2008 11:28:27 GMT -5
Madison, that is BRILLIANT! I would have LOVED to see that...
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Oct 5, 2008 11:38:05 GMT -5
What was the deal with Savage not entering the 1991 Rumble when he was suppose to? Was that part of his feud with Warrior, and if so, why did he leave?
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Post by CaptainFall on Oct 6, 2008 15:51:50 GMT -5
It really ticks me off how in '92 they said Savage had to have someone throw him over the top rope so there fore he was allowed back in but pretty much every royal rumble there after anyone intentionally jumping over the top rope is eliminated as in the case with Mil Mascaras. I was thinking of that one too. Andre the Giant eliminated himself by climbing over the top rope when Jake Roberts threw Damien into the ring in 1989.
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Post by Angus Mcloud on Oct 6, 2008 16:16:04 GMT -5
What was the deal with Savage not entering the 1991 Rumble when he was suppose to? Was that part of his feud with Warrior, and if so, why did he leave? Being chased out of the arena by Warrior after interfering in the match with Warrior and Slaughter
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Post by keithsells on Oct 6, 2008 17:41:53 GMT -5
Snitsky eliminating Paul London that one year, Stupidest thing ever.
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Post by D2: Sweet & Sour Edition on Oct 6, 2008 19:48:36 GMT -5
Was Michaels' "elimination" in '95 really an accident? If so, I'd consider it a blessing in disguise considering it hammered in the official rule about two feet touching the floor and allowed for many spots that wouldn't be possible if one foot would eliminate someone. This right here is why I was dying to see Zach Gowen participate in a Royal Rumble. I don't mean that as a joke either - there was potential in an angle where he used his situation to get around the "BOTH feet touching the floor" rule. I've ALWAYS wanted to see the charity case Zach Gowen in a battle royal like that.
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Post by mrjl on Oct 7, 2008 7:08:13 GMT -5
It really ticks me off how in '92 they said Savage had to have someone throw him over the top rope so there fore he was allowed back in but pretty much every royal rumble there after anyone intentionally jumping over the top rope is eliminated as in the case with Mil Mascaras. I was thinking of that one too. Andre the Giant eliminated himself by climbing over the top rope when Jake Roberts threw Damien into the ring in 1989. I think the problem was Savage was supposed to both go after Roberts after eliminating him and do some stuff later in the match. THey expected him to exit between the ropes not leap over the top.
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Post by blef on Oct 7, 2008 9:24:04 GMT -5
I was thinking of that one too. Andre the Giant eliminated himself by climbing over the top rope when Jake Roberts threw Damien into the ring in 1989. I think the problem was Savage was supposed to both go after Roberts after eliminating him and do some stuff later in the match. THey expected him to exit between the ropes not leap over the top. To be fair, he should've never gone back in. He really was just dead weight after that spot with Jake and did nothing of note at all for the rest of the match. They could've had one of the agents go down amidst the typical "breaking up the fight" chaos and tell him "plan's changed, it works better now if you don't go back in and fight Jake to the back."
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