Why so bloodthirsty?

[Phoenix]

He just needs to get some ring skills and not be a kicky punchy guy anymore.

So then 80% of the wwe needs new skills then?

[Claw died]

ya

[The OP]

phoenix said:

So then 80% of the wwe needs new skills then?

Most guys are actually better and more versatile ring workers than Cena though, that's why so many people hate Cena. As much as people criticized JBL's in-ring work, he had a lot more of a repetoire than Cena's shown us so far. Even for a power wrestler, Cena has been very uninteresting.

[Phoenix]

You must not remember Cenas first match on Raw when he showed up and took an open challenge from Angle. That was probably the best raw match I had seen in years and it was mostly pure wrestling in it.

[foghornleghorn]

The said:

Tell me, then... do you actually like WWE? Cos Cena is a whole lot less cartoonish than a lot of big box office WWE guys over the years.

I agree with the discipline thing, but this is wrestling... things like this have always made it into the ring.

Well, there are quite a few good or fairly good technical wrestlers in WWE, and they could get somewhere with a push being entertaining both inside and outside of the ring.

[Lance Uppercut]

phoenix said:

You must not remember Cenas first match on Raw when he showed up and took an open challenge from Angle. That was probably the best raw match I had seen in years and it was mostly pure wrestling in it.

That was Smackdown with Kurt Angle.

Sure people can go on and on about how he was carried the first couple weeks, but what's wrong with that. Look at Randy Orton, as much as people don't want to admit it, he's pretty good in the ring. And many would credit that with his time in evolution, hanging around Veterans like Flair and H, a power man like Batista, and working high profile matches against a variety of different styles and good workers (foley, micheals, hunter, flair, benjamin, christian, edge, benoit, rvd). Where aside from a short fuead with guerro, and a couple clashes with Angle and an unmotivated heel booker T, Cena really hasn't had much to work with (kenzo, renee, carlito, big show, Jesus, and so on).

[vincemcnashlegs]

Cena's ring work seems to get worse over time. He is like Hogan in his latter years just going though the motions and doing the same couple moves. Problem is - he's no Hulk Hogan.