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Post by attistude on May 9, 2005 15:16:39 GMT -5
Except for when it comes to Heavyweights not being able to challenge for the crusierweight title, wwe never seems to enforce the supposed Weight Classes, otherwise, cruisers wouldn't be allowed in the Royal Rumble to compete for World Heavyweight Championship Shots. I was wondering, did the wwf EVER use the Weight thing for storyline purposes?
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Post by Se7en: Horse That Wrote Poems on May 9, 2005 15:29:21 GMT -5
Well, the US and IC belts have no weight class. "Heavyweight" means mostly heavyweight wrestlers, but c'mon. Are you crying cuz Rey Rey, Angle, Eddy G, and Benoit are not quite heavyweight in size but get heavyweight credit with shots and titles. Would you REALLY want a title for nobody but Hosses!?!
The WWE Hoss championship. Jon Heidenreich, ten-time champion.
You asked if the WWE ever used weight class in an angle? Try MHV1 trying to "make weight" to compete for the CW title against Rey Rey.
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Post by attistude on May 9, 2005 15:34:48 GMT -5
No, I'm not complaining. It just seemed a little weird that they'd keep the "Heavyweight" Moniker when they never enforce it. And didn't the US Title used to be the "US Heavyweight Title", and the IC Title the "Intercontinental Heavyweight Title"
Sorry, I meant the other way round. A lighter guy not being able to get a Heavyweight Title Shot. I remember a thing in WCW where Kidman became a "bona fide heavyweight" and just started to compete for the US Championship.
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Post by richardnoggin on May 9, 2005 15:42:05 GMT -5
WWE doesn't even really make a conscious effort to differentiate between these so called "divisions" that you hear about here.
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Post by Se7en: Horse That Wrote Poems on May 9, 2005 16:11:31 GMT -5
Cuz they aren't divisions at all! If they were truthful, they'd call them the WWE RAW Midcard title and the WWE SD! Midcard title. "Heavyweight title" is really just a name that harkens back to when wrestling used weight classes comparable to boxing. Remember, that's not a WWE title belt, that's an old-timey NWA belt. They call it that because it carries prestige. Notice, they call Cena's title the"WWE Championship," not the WWE Heavyweight Title. They got it right when they renamed that belt. There is no true heavyweight division in today's WWE. Ask Kurt Angle and Chris Benoit.
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Post by KingPopper on May 9, 2005 17:04:31 GMT -5
Weight?? WWE doesn't even care about gender, with such great champs as, Chyna winning the ic title, Jackie winning the CW title, and Harvey winning the women's title. If Vince had never fired Buff Bagwell, Judy Bagwell would have ended up beating HHH for the world title by now.
as for the wieght issue, I'm surprized they havn't did an angle where Big Show breaks a scale, and since they don't know how much he weighs, he can fight for and win the CW title.
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Post by attistude on May 9, 2005 17:54:53 GMT -5
yeah. Her boobs alone would make her a Heavyweight
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2005 18:54:36 GMT -5
The weight restrictions seem to me mostly a maximum type weight for the belts
E.g Noone over 215 or 225 (Summit like that) isn't supposed to be allowed to compete for the cruiserweight title
Not aware of WWE ever saying there was weight restrictions on the other belts
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Post by jennie on May 9, 2005 18:57:19 GMT -5
220 was the limit they talked about when Hardy was trying to make weight for the Cruiser title. The old Light Heavyweight belt was more. I recall it being 230 or somtething, according to an episdoe of Heat where Foley made Christian lose a pound over the show to fight for the belt in the man event. [/Random Memory]
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Post by attistude on May 9, 2005 19:14:59 GMT -5
What happened to the Lightweight Championship anyway? I don't remember it being unified with the Crusierweight Title. Wasn't X-Pac the last guy to have it?
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Post by jennie on May 9, 2005 19:16:07 GMT -5
It quietly disappeared, as X-Pac was injured whilst holding it and never returned to TV.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2005 19:21:10 GMT -5
What happened to the Lightweight Championship anyway? I don't remember it being unified with the Crusierweight Title. Wasn't X-Pac the last guy to have it? I think there was supposes to be a unification match at Survivor Series but X-Pac got injured and it didn't happen so they just retired the light-heavyweight and used the crusierweight title. That's what I read anyway I was glad myself, light-heavyweight seemed a crummy name to me
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Post by hakushi on May 9, 2005 20:00:26 GMT -5
On smackdown I see it like, there's a cruiser champ, the WWE title is dominated by the bigger guys so it's the heavyweight belt (Eddie is huge, and Rey just got upgraded), the US belt though is the Openweight title that ANYBODY can challenge for..
that's just how i see it.
I'm all for the retirement on the Women's belt on Raw, and the rebirth of the Hardcore title so that some low carders have something to fight for.
Maybe call it the Extreme Title...
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Post by greenhornet on May 9, 2005 20:38:46 GMT -5
I laugh at how exaggerated wrestlers' weights are billed in general.
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