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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Feb 12, 2009 5:53:33 GMT -5
Am I the only one thinks this match isn't going to happen?
I mean why on earth would they put both HBK and Undertaker against each other in Texas? Surely from a sensible point of view the WWE would want both hometown legends to give the crowd something to go home happy about. Putting them in a match together means one would lose.
I really wouldn't be suprised if we had a card of ....
John Cena vs Shawn Micheals
Edge vs The Undertaker
Triple H (+ McMahons) vs Randy Orton (+ Legacy)
Chris Jericho vs Mickey Rourke/Steve Austin (+ Ric Flair)
Matt Hardy vs Jeff Hardy
Some sort of womens title or battle royale match
Christian vs Swagger
MITB Ladder Match.
It's not as if either are retiring or anything like that. Plus there has been barely a suggestion of the match leading up to Wrestlemania which for two greats seems strange.
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Post by thesam07 on Feb 12, 2009 6:38:08 GMT -5
I don't see HBK v Taker happening just because in the past, the big matches are usually built up from Royal Rumble (sometimes earlier). It just doesn't seem right that they would begin building a match up from No Way Out.
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Feb 12, 2009 6:43:09 GMT -5
Let's face facts: there is about seven, count them. SEVEN WEEKS until Wrestlemania from No Way Out this year. There is plenty of time for this match to occur.
Plus its HBK and Taker. You don't need a long buildup, plus it doesn't hurt that the foundation was laid upon at the Rumble. Win Streak vs. Mr. Wrestlemania. That is all you need.
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Post by randomranter on Feb 12, 2009 7:45:27 GMT -5
Am I the only one thinks this match isn't going to happen? No, there are several of us who do. However, even HINTING that the match isn't going to happen will get shouted down by those who take a 30 second clip at the Rumble (Which they've done several times in the past, btw, without leading to big matches), some made up NEWZZZ from the dirtsheets, and turned it into absolute Gospel. Sadly, it seems to be somewhat of a growing trend on this board. The same thing happened to Christian. Everybody insisted he was going to be thrust into the main event immediately upon his return, and absolutely REFUSED to listen to anything pointing to the contrary. Steve Austin gets similar treatment -- people insist he's going to be in a match at WM25, despite the fact that multiple sources have said he's in no shape to compete, and they've done NOTHING to indicate it's even an option. As for the rest of your prediction: I'm actually predicting HBK/JBL at NWO is going to end up in some form of non-finish, or some finish that will allow the storyline to continue, leading to a rematch at WM. Plus, they've done it so many times on TV recently, and they've all been quality matches. I doubt they'd give away a planned Wrestlemania main event multiple times on free TV 3 months before the show. This is certainly possible, but I don't think they're going to have 'Taker give up the streak, nor are they going to have him win the title three years in a row -- twice vs. the same guy. Plus, 'Taker's in rough shape. I'm actually predicting a throw-away match to keep the streak alive -- maybe vs. someone like Koslov or Umaga, with 'Taker's big retirement match next year. This one I agree with. I've predicted from day one that HHH/Steph's real-life marriage will eventually be revealed, and that this would build up to a big WM match. Rourke has officially pulled out of the event. Some believe it's part of the work, but it looks to me like they're trying to steer away from that storyline on TV as well, which makes me believe he really did pull out. And like I said, Austin's in no shape to work. Sadly, it looks like they're steering towards Jericho/Flair, which will crap all over his big sendoff last year. I hope they don't go that route. One thing I do think could happen if they really do blow off HBK/JBL is HBK/Jericho with Flair in HBK's corner. But that's just my own speculation. The rest of these are just no-brainers.
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Feb 12, 2009 7:49:49 GMT -5
For me, it's just been blind hope for about two years. If they dont do Shawn vs Taker at WM 25, then I'm gonna continue to blindly hope for it for 26, and so on, until they both shall wrestle.
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Post by B.B.M on Feb 12, 2009 8:36:55 GMT -5
And all this talk started because Taker said Hi to HBK at the Royal Rumble
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Post by joey joe joe junior shabadoo on Feb 12, 2009 9:01:36 GMT -5
If Rourke is pulling out I think Jericho may face the Undertaker
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Post by deadmanlfc on Feb 12, 2009 9:41:52 GMT -5
I agree with that, Jericho has been calling out the legends lately, maybe Taker could take exception to that even.
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Post by WWE Trademarked My Name on Feb 12, 2009 9:53:22 GMT -5
Surely from a sensible point of view the WWE would want both hometown legends to give the crowd something to go home happy about. Putting them in a match together means one would lose. John Cena vs Shawn Micheals So you break up the HBK/Taker match because one of them would have to lose and put HBK in a match with Cena instead?
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Post by MGH on Feb 12, 2009 11:09:17 GMT -5
From the company who has made an art of jobbing in one's hometown?
If this match doesn't happen, it wouldn't be because of that.
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Post by millionurkle on Feb 12, 2009 11:13:57 GMT -5
this led to hbk's wrestlemania match last year so who knows.
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Post by B.B.M on Feb 12, 2009 11:24:48 GMT -5
That clip mostly teased a Evolution Reunion.
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Post by Zen411 on Feb 12, 2009 11:42:12 GMT -5
The interaction with HBK and Taker didn't really tease any animosity between the two. Just because it happened at the Rumble doenst mean it will happen. HBK had interaction with HHH backstage at Raw when HBK sold out to JBL and this isn't teasing a match. I think they just wanted faces to try to steer HBK back to the old HBK.
I think we are more likely to see Taker vs Jericho or Taker vs Cena and a blowoff to HBK-JBL.
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Post by sloride on Feb 12, 2009 11:54:31 GMT -5
The only reason people think its happening really is because its Texas and these two are Texas legends. The RR appearance does seem a bit clutching at straws as they always have random appearances. Like with last year they had Kennedy/Flair/HHH/Bats and Shawn appear in a skit together. But, the build up to Michaels/Flair didn't happen until after NWO so who knows.
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Post by MGH on Feb 12, 2009 11:55:40 GMT -5
I think some people took note that over the past three years at the Rumble they've done something or another with them, and just keep waiting for a big payoff. If anyone thinks it's just a bunch of people sitting on message boards that want to see that match, I think you'd be badly mistaken.
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Post by Desi on Feb 12, 2009 12:05:39 GMT -5
Because what's the alternative? HBK vs JBL? That's a giant waste of a WM match. I don't care about how *deep* their storyline is, this simply IS NOT a WM caliber match.
As for Taker, that's a bit trickier. I'll have to wait after NWO to see what they'll do with him.
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Post by randomranter on Feb 12, 2009 12:18:14 GMT -5
Because what's the alternative? HBK vs JBL? That's a giant waste of a WM match. I don't care about how *deep* their storyline is, this simply IS NOT a WM caliber match. Not every match on ANY wrestlemania card is "WM Caliber". Not every match on the card is going to be the next HBK/Flair. Undertaker has always been a big WM draw. Yet a large portion of his wrestlemania matches have been total throw-away matches. Take a look at last year's card: JBL/Finlay? Batista/Umaga? JBL/Finlay certainly wasn't "WM caliber", but a lot of people believe it was a lot better than they thought it was going to be. Batista vs UMAGA? One of the WWE's biggest stars was in what was nothing more than a glorified throw-away match. Heck, everyone was crapping all over the idea of Big Show/Mayweather. And that match turned out a LOT better than most people thought it was going to be. It's wrestlemania. People don't just bring their "A game". They bring their "A+ game". HBK/JBL may not be "WM caliber" on paper. And it's certainly not going to be HBK/Flair by any stretch of the imagination. But I think if JBL gives a performance similar to his match with Finlay last year, and HBK gives his usual performance, then the two of them can easily put on a very entertaining show. Not HBK/Flair, but not "That" Jacke Gayda match, either.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2009 12:19:47 GMT -5
They would do it because it's a match people would pay to see.
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Post by Desi on Feb 12, 2009 12:36:53 GMT -5
Because what's the alternative? HBK vs JBL? That's a giant waste of a WM match. I don't care about how *deep* their storyline is, this simply IS NOT a WM caliber match. Not every match on ANY wrestlemania card is "WM Caliber". Not every match on the card is going to be the next HBK/Flair. Undertaker has always been a big WM draw. Yet a large portion of his wrestlemania matches have been total throw-away matches. Take a look at last year's card: JBL/Finlay? Batista/Umaga? JBL/Finlay certainly wasn't "WM caliber", but a lot of people believe it was a lot better than they thought it was going to be. Batista vs UMAGA? One of the WWE's biggest stars was in what was nothing more than a glorified throw-away match. Heck, everyone was crapping all over the idea of Big Show/Mayweather. And that match turned out a LOT better than most people thought it was going to be. It's wrestlemania. People don't just bring their "A game". They bring their "A+ game". HBK/JBL may not be "WM caliber" on paper. And it's certainly not going to be HBK/Flair by any stretch of the imagination. But I think if JBL gives a performance similar to his match with Finlay last year, and HBK gives his usual performance, then the two of them can easily put on a very entertaining show. Not HBK/Flair, but not "That" Jacke Gayda match, either. My biggest issue with this whole thing is that people are asking why instead of why not? Will HBK/Taker be that troublesome to produce? The match hypes itself. And yes, I'm incredibly biased towards my dislike of both JBL and this stupid storyline so take that as you will. Considering that both men are in the twilight of their careers, I don't see why WWE would not take the opportunity that's presented in front of them before it's too late to do so.
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Post by randomranter on Feb 12, 2009 12:45:14 GMT -5
My biggest issue with this whole thing is that people are asking why instead of why not? Will HBK/Taker be that troublesome to produce? The match hypes itself. And yes, I'm incredibly biased towards my dislike of both JBL and this stupid storyline so take that as you will. Considering that both men are in the twilight of their careers, I don't see why WWE would not take the opportunity that's presented in front of them before it's too late to do so. My problem isn't the match itself. I'd like to see HBK/Taker again. And I'm not saying that there's no chance that they'll do it. I'm just saying that one 30 second random clip and a whole bunch of wishful thinking does not mean that the match is a lock. That's where my problem is. Some people are so hellbent on having HBK/Taker at WM25 that they (a) insist that the match is a 100% lock based on one otherwise irrelevant, random promo, and (b) absolutely refuse to believe otherwise, or even listen to reason. I'm not saying the match isn't going to happen. I don't think it will, but it's not out of the realm of possibilities, either. All I'm saying is that they have given us absolutely NO reason to believe the match is going to take place yet, and at this point, HBK/Taker is nothing more than wishful thinking. As I've said before, there's been a disturbing trend on this board lately to take whatever the dirtsheets say (most of which is completely made up guesswork), blow it way out of proportion, treat it as gospel, and shout down anybody who tries to inject logic into the conversation. It was (and still is) done with Christian, it was/is done with Austin, and it's being done with HBK/Taker. Some people need to re-learn the fact that "personal fantasy booking + dirtsheet gossip =/= WWE'S booking plans".
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