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Post by Robbymac on Feb 8, 2009 1:48:34 GMT -5
If this happened to your mother, father, son, daughter...... Believe me, you would think what Jericho did was absolutely fine. Those fans were complete idiots. They deserved it and I'm sure any Judge would see that Yes they were....No judge or jury in the world would convict Jericho for punching the woman. Everything he did afterward though he instigated. He could have gotten in his car and drove off as soon as he punched her. Instead he decided to start throwing blows at everyone around him, including security guards that were trying to help him (albeit maybe doing it poorly). He will get charged with something. That I'll guarantee. |
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Post by The Genesis of KoOS on Feb 8, 2009 1:49:57 GMT -5
No, they would say that he's stupid for getting out of his car and confront the fan in the first place. Once again, two wrongs don't make a right. A bunch of people start hitting your car The hell are you going to do. Sure, you can sit there and wait till they break the window.... Or be a man like Jericho A bunch? What story were you reading? The keyword "A FAN" A fan = ONE fan Was he hitting the car with a baseball bat? Chances are, no. I highly doubt the fan did any kind of damage if it's the kind of "banging" I think it was. |
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Post by skiller on Feb 8, 2009 1:50:02 GMT -5
HOW is he in the wrong? People came up and were giving him crap. Then one of them actually grabs on him as he's getting into his car. Man or woman, they should expect an uppercut trying to do something like that in this situation. Jericho was already in his car. There were security people in front of him. He should have stayed in the car and tell the security, WHO WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM, to move them the snork away. All he did was instigate things even worse. YOU DON'T DO THAT. You can't instigate anything by getting out of your car. The other guy was damaging property in his possession and physically stopped him from exiting the car and causing him potentially injury. I agree that he went nuts later on after he hit the girl, but I see that as a reaction from being frustrated by the security's inability to handle the situation causing him to possibly think that he was pushed by one of the guys there. Like many have said he had his back to her at the time, I doubt he thought she was the one or he probably wouldn't have decked her like that. He didn't look like he was going to hit her up to that point. |
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Feb 8, 2009 1:51:10 GMT -5
As someoen said she grabbed him with his back turn, so he could have thought it was guy attacking him. He'll do a fake I'm sorry like Michael Phelps(the swimmer). I bet this won't even go to court.
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Post by thelastcall on Feb 8, 2009 1:51:22 GMT -5
A bunch of people start hitting your car The hell are you going to do. Sure, you can sit there and wait till they break the window.... Or be a man like Jericho A bunch? What story were you reading? The keyword "A FAN" A fan = ONE fan Was he hitting the car with a baseball bat? Chances are, no. I highly doubt the fan didn't any kind of damage if it's the kind of "banging" I think it was. It really wouldn't be that hard to put a dent in a car with your fists. I don't care if it's one fan or 200 fans. I guarantee you I could do some serious damage to a car with my body if I felt like it. |
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Post by lildude8218 on Feb 8, 2009 1:51:32 GMT -5
Meanwhile he took the girl out for ice cream after this happened. Now you know the Secrets.
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Post by Widow's Peak on Feb 8, 2009 1:51:34 GMT -5
I think we can all agree that security completely sucked. The fans should never have been allowed to get that rowdy in the first place. I bet we'll see much heavier security at WWE events in the future as a result of this.
It's easy to see that he had been provoked, but the legal question is going to be whether his use of force was for his own protection, or if it was done it a fit of anger. I don't think his shoving the security guards helps his case.
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Post by The Ichi on Feb 8, 2009 1:51:58 GMT -5
As for the "a fan could have been armed" argument, aren't they searched for weapons and crap at house shows (never been to one so pardon my ignorance)?
Armed with soda bottles, perhaps.
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Post by thelastcall on Feb 8, 2009 1:53:10 GMT -5
As for the "a fan could have been armed" argument, aren't they searched for weapons and crap at house shows (never been to one so pardon my ignorance)? Armed with soda bottles, perhaps. This was outside, after the show |
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Post by skiller on Feb 8, 2009 1:53:24 GMT -5
As for the "a fan could have been armed" argument, aren't they searched for weapons and crap at house shows (never been to one so pardon my ignorance)? Armed with soda bottles, perhaps. Except for the fact they were on the street and not in any venue. |
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Post by Robbymac on Feb 8, 2009 1:53:30 GMT -5
Umm guys, she grabs his back, and he turns around and absolutely DECKS a woman. Now I might be willing to excuse that (even though I find the idea that he hit a woman despicable) if he just got in his car and sped off from there, but instead he starts taking out everyone. He clearly crossed the line, and is likely to get some serious backlash for this.  Someone bangs on his car, closes the door on him, people start touching him, crowding him, screaming at him, etc. I know you'll never be in that situation, but if you actually imagined yourself in it, I think you'd be less likely to get sanctimonious about it. I'm not getting sanctimonious about anything. I don't fault him for anything that happened until AFTER he hit the woman. After he hit the woman he should have gotten into his vehicle and drove off. Instead he started swinging at everything that moved. That is what is going to get him in trouble. I'm not even saying I'd have reacted any differently, but I'd also have to pay the price for it. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 8, 2009 1:53:32 GMT -5
It's not an ideal situation, but I'd be lying if I said I though Jericho was some monster or something. People have done far worse, and this probably, if anything might be good for his push, since it's exactly what his character would do, like the JBL goosestep. Ironic, eh?
Those who did what they did here, screwed up. Jericho reacted like a human being, which is not what the law favors. The fans acted like animals. The security blew it on an epic scale.
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Post by majesty on Feb 8, 2009 1:53:37 GMT -5
A bunch of people start hitting your car The hell are you going to do. Sure, you can sit there and wait till they break the window.... Or be a man like Jericho A bunch? What story were you reading? The keyword "A FAN" A fan = ONE fan Was he hitting the car with a baseball bat? Chances are, no. I highly doubt the fan did any kind of damage if it's the kind of "banging" I think it was. At the very least, it's the kind of apology work for people touching your stuff and messing with your ability to leave the area that shows pretty much how easy it would probably be to get you to plead innocent on anyone's case. |
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Post by The Genesis of KoOS on Feb 8, 2009 1:53:39 GMT -5
Jericho was already in his car. There were security people in front of him. He should have stayed in the car and tell the security, WHO WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM, to move them the snork away. All he did was instigate things even worse. YOU DON'T DO THAT. You can't instigate anything by getting out of your car. The other guy was damaging property in his possession and physically stopped him from exiting the car and causing him potentially injury. I agree that he went nuts later on after he hit the girl, but I see that as a reaction from being frustrated by the security's inability to handle the situation causing him to possibly think that he was pushed by one of the guys there. Like many have said he had his back to her at the time, I doubt he thought she was the one or he probably wouldn't have decked her like that. He didn't look like he was going to hit her up to that point. What do you think Jericho was going to do by getting out of the car, give the fan a hug? COME ON. You say he stopped him from getting out of the car. What would Jericho accomplish by getting out of the car? Hmmm let a fan dent a rental car which would be covered with insurance or get out and get into a shoving, spitting, and punching contest with fans and security? Wow real noodle scratcher there.... |
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Post by officedepot6905 on Feb 8, 2009 1:54:26 GMT -5
the guys defending this are probably the same idiots from the video who shouldnt have touched someone elses private property in the first place.
the 2nd video shows jericho standing there not doing anything. the girl shoves him...he still does nothing! then he turns to get in his car and she lunges at him. jericho didnt know what she might have had in her hand. SO BOOM BITCH GOES DOWN. i would have done the same thing in that situation. as bobby heenan would say "i would do that to my grandmother if i had to!"
to the people saying he should not have gotten out of the car, maybe your right. but how do you know(and you dont know!) he wasnt getting out to maybe sign some more autographs to get the people out of the way? he went to get out and some jerkoff put his hands on his car (whether its a rental or not...jericho is responsible for it) jericho is a class act, he knows the rules, as soon as someone puts there hands on you anything goes...thats including the bitches
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Post by drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) on Feb 8, 2009 1:54:31 GMT -5
Okay, I'm sold. He's in the wrong. HOW is he in the wrong? People came up and were giving him crap. Then one of them actually grabs on him as he's getting into his car. Man or woman, they should expect an uppercut trying to do something like that in this situation. This, that and a cavalcade of other statements of agreeance. He's defending himself in a situation that should have probably been defused earlier by competent security. At that point, you're going off of instinct. I wouldn't charge him. |
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Post by biff on Feb 8, 2009 1:55:00 GMT -5
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Post by skiller on Feb 8, 2009 1:55:07 GMT -5
You can't instigate anything by getting out of your car. The other guy was damaging property in his possession and physically stopped him from exiting the car and causing him potentially injury. I agree that he went nuts later on after he hit the girl, but I see that as a reaction from being frustrated by the security's inability to handle the situation causing him to possibly think that he was pushed by one of the guys there. Like many have said he had his back to her at the time, I doubt he thought she was the one or he probably wouldn't have decked her like that. He didn't look like he was going to hit her up to that point. What do you think Jericho was going to do by getting out of the car, give the fan a hug? COME ON. You say he stopped him from getting out of the car. What would Jericho accomplish by getting out of the car? Hmmm let a fan dent a rental car which would be covered with insurance or get out and get into a shoving, spitting, and punching contest with fans and security? Wow real noodle scratcher there.... Chances are he'd probably ask the guy to get out of the way or yell at him. Why are you only assuming he wanted to beat him up? |
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Feb 8, 2009 1:55:21 GMT -5
He will get charged with something. That I'll guarantee. I'll take this bet whole heartedly. Being charged criminally and being sued are two different types of proof. Anyone can sue anyone for anything. Being charged criminally means the DA is fairly confidant that they can win. And winning a criminal case means proving beyond a reasonable doubt. It doesn't take that much to charge someone, but the idea of actually getting a conviction goes into whether someone is charged or not. From what I'm seeing, I doubt there will be any charges filled. *This did take place is Canada, so it might be a bit different procedure wise. Correct me if I'm wrong. |
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Post by El Hijo del Havoc on Feb 8, 2009 1:55:22 GMT -5
I didn't hear anyone get riled up when paparazzi was banging on Paris Hilton in the police car, or Britney Spears in the ambulance, or Heath Ledger being loaded in the coroners car
People wanted to see Jericho at all costs. They were banging on his car, and he would've speeded out of there for all I care. But coming out and hitting someone wasn't self defense at all. It was him using force and taking matters into his owns hands, which was obviously a wrong thing to do
But since Jericho is the WC's fanboy, he gets praise and a medal for this
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