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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jun 26, 2009 4:45:47 GMT -5
Before I post anything or read through this thread all I'm going to ask is, is this thread respectful? On some other forums I read the Michael Jackson threads are some of the most disrespectful things I have ever seen and I have a real issue with someone pissing on a dead man not even 24 hours later. Well, some people tried to start disrespectful things here. They are no longer members of the Crap, if you know what I mean.
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Post by spagett on Jun 26, 2009 5:48:51 GMT -5
There is no point comparing him to Elvis or The Beatles.
Lets just leave it as Michael Jackson is one of about 5 or 6 musicians who can honestly claim to be cultural icons who will never be forgotten.
And I say that as someone who doesn't love him but you cant deny how important he has been to music.
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Post by MCMGM on Jun 26, 2009 6:56:21 GMT -5
No question an extraordinary talent, but I really can't fathom why some people are saying he was greater than Elvis. The Big E brought rock n roll to the mainstream which would eventually be perfected into what is known as Metal. How can that be topped? I can't say what I want to say about Elvis without a possible ban, so I'm going to leave this alone.
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Post by FrankGotch on Jun 26, 2009 8:49:01 GMT -5
No question an extraordinary talent, but I really can't fathom why some people are saying he was greater than Elvis. The Big E brought rock n roll to the mainstream which would eventually be perfected into what is known as Metal. How can that be topped? I can't say what I want to say about Elvis without a possible ban, so I'm going to leave this alone. Huh? What did Elvis do to incur your wrath? Are you mad that he borrowed heavily from African American culture? Popular musicians borrowing from each other is a long tradition that goes back much further then Elvis. Are you mad because the guy said some racist things? For a man who grew up in the pre-segregation south he was pretty much as non racist as you can get. In fact the man kept several very close black friends, it doesn't seem like a big deal now, but during the height of Elvis's popularity many parts of the nation were still split in half between black and white. Are you mad because he did drugs? I can't imagine that this could be the reason, as ever musician ever worth anything has done drugs. I'm not doing this to flame I'm mostly just confused as to what your beef with the man could be. BTW if you don't feel comfortable posting it here please PM me.
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Post by The Peoples Elbow on Jun 26, 2009 8:49:51 GMT -5
I'd just like to add that I grew up watching him (I was born in 78) and he played a tremendous part in my musical upbringing. It's a sad day, indeed.
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Post by Psy on Jun 26, 2009 8:51:48 GMT -5
Keep the thread on-topic, please.
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Post by erisi236 on Jun 26, 2009 8:56:04 GMT -5
For anyone of a certain age Micheal Jackson was certainly our Elvis or our Beatles if you catch my meaning.
One of the most important people in music in the last 30 years, who's music and videos defined a generation of people.
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Post by stealthamo on Jun 26, 2009 8:58:27 GMT -5
For those interested, MTV is showing Thriller right now.
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Post by B.B.M on Jun 26, 2009 9:01:51 GMT -5
BBC News has returned back to continuative coverage
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Post by Dangery Scubba on Jun 26, 2009 9:07:23 GMT -5
For anyone of a certain age Micheal Jackson was certainly our Elvis or our Beatles if you catch my meaning. Pretty much this. Maybe that's why it seems a bit weird to me to compare the three. All three are equally important in my eyes. For those of us who never saw Elvis or The Beatles, there was Michael Jackson. And we were able to see him. And his music reaches all generations just like The Beatles and Elvis. There really is no generation gap when it comes to who enjoys the music. And considering how many artists have been influenced by the three acts, it seems to me that they all belong in the same category all by themselves. People who were able to transcend music and actually shape society.
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Post by mattperiolat on Jun 26, 2009 9:11:26 GMT -5
I really gotta commend WC for keeping it respectful here. Lots of other places, not so much.
I'm also pretty moved by how people are remembering Michael, given a lot of you crazy kids are younger than I am (born in 1977) and missed Thriller and Bad. Heck, I remember the Pepsi Commercial incident and they still AIRED the commercial after what happened.
As for me, I'm restraining myself in one regard and that's going to Amazon and buying up the reissues of the albums, just to have them with "potentially" improved audio.
Man, what a giant Michael was.
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Post by Dangery Scubba on Jun 26, 2009 9:17:05 GMT -5
I really gotta commend WC for keeping it respectful here. Lots of other places, not so much. I'm also pretty moved by how people are remembering Michael, given a lot of you crazy kids are younger than I am (born in 1977) and missed Thriller and Bad. Heck, I remember the Pepsi Commercial incident and they still AIRED the commercial after what happened. As for me, I'm restraining myself in one regard and that's going to Amazon and buying up the reissues of the albums, just to have them with "potentially" improved audio. Man, what a giant Michael was. I was born a year before Bad was released. I remember that my sister had Thriller on tape and I was probably four when I first heard it and I was instantly hooked. That tape, which I obviously wore out, was the first piece of music I'd ever listened to the entire way through. It was incredible.
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Post by willywonka666 on Jun 26, 2009 9:20:50 GMT -5
TMZ is reporting that his Dr. could be responsible (and he is now missing) Demerol is expected to be what did it.
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Post by Red Lion on Jun 26, 2009 9:24:35 GMT -5
TMZ is reporting that his Dr. could be responsible (and he is now missing) Demerol is expected to be what did it. If he is responsible, he can't really hide, there are too many Jackson fans, it'd be a galaxy-wide witch hunt.
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Post by B.B.M on Jun 26, 2009 9:26:57 GMT -5
TMZ is reporting that his Dr. could be responsible (and he is now missing) Demerol is expected to be what did it. If he is responsible, he can't really hide, there are too many Jackson fans, it'd be a galaxy-wide witch hunt. It's not like he did it on purpose.....right?
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Post by B.B.M on Jun 26, 2009 9:28:12 GMT -5
Some chick on BBC News is trying to start something racial.
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Post by willywonka666 on Jun 26, 2009 9:33:24 GMT -5
It's bad enough to screw up as a Dr. but to be the doctor that screwed up with Michael Jackson-I cannot imagine being responsible for that. I still find all of this hard to believe.
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Post by B.B.M on Jun 26, 2009 9:36:51 GMT -5
It's bad enough to screw up as a Dr. but to be the doctor that screwed up with Michael Jackson-I cannot imagine being responsible for that. I still find all of this hard to believe. You and me both, Most of us in the B.B.M family were going to see Jacko at the O2 arena next month.
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Post by Dangery Scubba on Jun 26, 2009 9:41:39 GMT -5
It's bad enough to screw up as a Dr. but to be the doctor that screwed up with Michael Jackson-I cannot imagine being responsible for that. I still find all of this hard to believe. I think I'm just now getting past the initial shock of never seeing him again. But yeah, it's still really hard to swallow.
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Post by FrankGotch on Jun 26, 2009 9:45:05 GMT -5
Some of the Autopsy reports that have come in, are saying he had been having a series of "small" strokes over his lifetime that finally turned into full on cardiac arrest. Sounds like this was an ongoing problem, and the Demerol just acted as a catalyst. Honestly though you kinda had to know that something was up with his health. A healthy 5'9 man doesn't weigh 120 lbs. Being extremely skinny will put a person at more risk of a heart attack then if they were extremely obese.
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