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Post by mattperiolat on Jun 30, 2009 12:32:03 GMT -5
BREAKING NEWS FROM CNN
Michael Jackson will be taken by motorcade to Neverland Ranch on Thursday.
Funeral and burial will be at Neverland on Friday.
More as I hear it.
EDIT: CNN has corrected their information and so will I.
The motorcade for MJ from LA to Neverland Ranch on Thursday morning.
A public viewing for Michael will be Friday. A private memorial service at Neverland on Sunday.
It is not clear if Michael will be buried following that memorial service or not. More news as it comes in.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Jun 30, 2009 13:01:55 GMT -5
Joe Jackson is not, repeat NOT, named as a benificary in the will. And there was much rejoicing. Although you know he's gonna go to court to try and get a piece. I expect this to last several years. Isn't Joe Jackson still married to her? If so doesn't that mean the three kids are staying with her AND Joe? BTW Michael Jackson dying is too bad and all but I hate how the news is covering this. They just won't stop and it is disgusting. The guy was the freak. We know. You don't have to keep updating the fact that he is dead. One day is enough. We have huge economic problems, big votes going on in the government, yet the biggest headline is that Michael Jackson who has done nothing relevant in the last eight years died?!!!
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Post by willywonka666 on Jun 30, 2009 13:10:58 GMT -5
And there was much rejoicing. Although you know he's gonna go to court to try and get a piece. I expect this to last several years. Isn't Joe Jackson still married to her? If so doesn't that mean the three kids are staying with her AND Joe? BTW Michael Jackson dying is too bad and all but I hate how the news is covering this. They just won't stop and it is disgusting. The guy was the freak. We know. You don't have to keep updating the fact that he is dead. One day is enough. We have huge economic problems, big votes going on in the government, yet the biggest headline is that Michael Jackson who has done nothing relevant in the last eight years died?!!! I get your point, but Christ, all we ever here about it the s***ty economy and the government.This was going to be headline news from the day the Jackson 5 had their first hit, as well it should be.
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Post by mattperiolat on Jun 30, 2009 13:19:14 GMT -5
I agree that the coverage of Jackson has been impressive, but I think only the first day or so was all-covering. Iran, Iraq, Madoff, the anniversary of Stonewall, they've all gotten coverage in addition to Jackson.
I think it's all fair and all good to me.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Jun 30, 2009 13:31:15 GMT -5
I agree that the coverage of Jackson has been impressive, but I think only the first day or so was all-covering. Iran, Iraq, Madoff, the anniversary of Stonewall, they've all gotten coverage in addition to Jackson. I think it's all fair and all good to me. No way. Sure they have talked a little bit about those things but on most of the top news channels Jackson has been almost nonstop. The first day I can understand. But FOUR days. I understand he was very influential but the guy was not Elvis.
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Post by Solid Stryk-Dizzle on Jun 30, 2009 13:32:21 GMT -5
I agree that the coverage of Jackson has been impressive, but I think only the first day or so was all-covering. Iran, Iraq, Madoff, the anniversary of Stonewall, they've all gotten coverage in addition to Jackson. I think it's all fair and all good to me. No way. Sure they have talked a little bit about those things but on most of the top news channels Jackson has been almost nonstop. The first day I can understand. But FOUR days. I understand he was very influential but the guy was not Elvis. Nobody is forcing you to watch those parts of the news.
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Post by Desi on Jun 30, 2009 13:39:46 GMT -5
For those wondering about Joe & Katherine, they're still married (mostly due to Katherine's religious beliefs against divorce) but they've been separated for years and they live in different states.
So while Joe isn't named in the will, some are worried he might try to strong-arm his way in through Katherine.
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Post by Chad1m on Jun 30, 2009 14:15:06 GMT -5
Does anyone know if there are plans to televise the showing/funeral live a la Princess Diana?
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Post by KevFalcön07 on Jun 30, 2009 14:29:16 GMT -5
Does anyone know if there are plans to televise the showing/funeral live a la Princess Diana? I doubt it myself. They did say it would be "private."
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Post by Janitor From Mars on Jun 30, 2009 14:32:53 GMT -5
And there was much rejoicing. Although you know he's gonna go to court to try and get a piece. I expect this to last several years. BTW Michael Jackson dying is too bad and all but I hate how the news is covering this. They just won't stop and it is disgusting. The guy was the freak. We know. You don't have to keep updating the fact that he is dead. One day is enough. Here we go again with the "freak" label. I've had some time to really think about Jackson's death and you know what? The man never got a fair shake from anyone, whether it be the media or the people who turned their backs on him. I made jokes about him that I now regret. It's a deep, deep regret too. Though I didn't know the guy, I realize how wrong it was to dismiss him as a freak. I'm getting really tired of people throwing around that label and pointing to the allegations, which by the way, were found to be false all the way back in 1994! Also, if you don't like Jackson, you don't even have to participate in this thread. Please accept my apologies in advance but I just can't stand the name-calling anymore. And yes, people do need a break from the doom-and-gloom every once in a while to pay their respects to another human being. Jackson touched many people (and please, NO jokes here) in a good way and deserves to ride out into the sunset.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jun 30, 2009 14:43:22 GMT -5
I understand he was very influential but the guy was not Elvis. Within his heyday, his influence arguably rivals Elvis.
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Post by MCMGM on Jun 30, 2009 14:45:46 GMT -5
BTW Michael Jackson dying is too bad and all but I hate how the news is covering this. They just won't stop and it is disgusting. The guy was the freak. We know. You don't have to keep updating the fact that he is dead. One day is enough. Here we go again with the "freak" label. I've had some time to really think about Jackson's death and you know what? The man never got a fair shake from anyone, whether it be the media or the people who turned their backs on him. I made jokes about him that I now regret. It's a deep, deep regret too. Though I didn't know the guy, I realize how wrong it was to dismiss him as a freak. I'm getting really tired of people throwing around that label and pointing to the allegations, which by the way, were found to be false all the way back in 1994! Also, if you don't like Jackson, you don't even have to participate in this thread. Please accept my apologies in advance but I just can't stand the name-calling anymore. And yes, people do need a break from the doom-and-gloom every once in a while to pay their respects to another human being. Jackson touched many people (and please, NO jokes here) in a good way and deserves to ride out into the sunset. *Starts slow clap*
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Jun 30, 2009 14:45:50 GMT -5
I understand he was very influential but the guy was not Elvis. You're right. He was Michael Jackson. I don't mean to be disrespectful toward you or anyone else, but please understand my views; growing up as a young child in the 1980's (I was born in early 1980), there were three celebrities: Hulk Hogan, Mr. T, and Michael Jackson. As an impressionable kid, these three could do no wrong, and nobody else outside my family mattered. I actually cried - CRIED! - when Mr. T lost to Sylvester Stallone in Rocky III, even though Clubber Lang was the heel character. I cried when Hulk Hogan lost the WWF title to Andre the Giant, and - even though I was somewhat "smartened up" to the business at a young age - I cried again when Earthquake "crushed Hogan's ribs." Michael Jackson's death is a HUGE deal to people my age (and slightly older) simply because he was our Elvis. Elvis was the King of Rock-n-Roll; Michael was the King of Pop. Elvis was famous for his distinct voice and hip-swinging dance moves; Michael's voice and dance style were innovative and unique for him, too. Elvis generated a lot of controversy for "over-sexualizing" things on stage; MJ grabbed his crotch a lot, and people thought that was overly-sexual, too. Just as our parents (or in some cases, grandparents) were hit hard by Elvis's death (and, to a lesser extent, John Lennon's as well), people aged 25-45 have been hit hard by MJ's death in a way that some people might never understand. I'm not ashamed to admit that I've shed a few tears over the past few days, nor am I ashamed to admit that I will bawl like an infant when Hulk Hogan and Mr. T pass away. To some, it's silly, and I can totally understand that, but those are the icons of my childhood - and looking back, Hogan, T, and MJ were at times the only things I cared about back then - and nobody ever likes to let those things go. Again, I mean no disrespect to you or your opinion; I agree the media coverage has been insane, but I also know that, had the media been as all-encompassing and obsessive back in Elvis's day, the same thing would happen. It's inevitable.
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Post by mattperiolat on Jun 30, 2009 14:46:16 GMT -5
Does anyone know if there are plans to televise the showing/funeral live a la Princess Diana? I doubt it myself. They did say it would be "private." I really wonder what the Jackson family is up to here. Clearly, they deserve the right to turn off the cameras and mourn in private, but just televising the viewing, if they even do that, is not going to be enough. Now, there is supposed to be a public memorial in Gary, IN on July 10 and the city fathers have been pushing like mad to have Michael's body flown out for those services and even have him buried there. I get the impression that that is what Joe Jackson would prefer. Personally at this point, yes, there needs to be a public funeral beyond the viewing on TV so the world at large can say goodbye. I'd personally opt for burial at Neverland myself. You watch the Living with Michael Jackson doc and there's a moment where as Michael is walking the grounds and they come to this tree that he says he likes to climb and think and he just sprints up the tree, just happy as a clam. I would say Michael should be buried next to that tree, where he seemed to find such peace and happiness. Just how I feel. I do hope that the Jackson family is able to come up with something to satisfy everyone rather than just one or two greedy individuals. EDIT: Here's the video I'm talking about. Draw your own conclusions. www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7RDCDLLIm8
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Post by Desi on Jun 30, 2009 16:22:59 GMT -5
If they manage a private funeral for Michael, I'd be shocked. Knowing the media, they'll find a way to give the man less privacy in death than what little he had in life.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jun 30, 2009 17:27:54 GMT -5
If they manage a private funeral for Michael, I'd be shocked. Knowing the media, they'll find a way to give the man less privacy in death than what little he had in life. Well, Michael was driven to be the biggest star in the music business back in the 80's (not to mention his people planting some stories in order to make the tabloid situation more managable- didn't work). I think it turned into a double-edged sword for him, but he had a right to be mad about some of the things printed.
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Post by mattperiolat on Jun 30, 2009 17:35:02 GMT -5
Funny how fast "No, nothing at Neverland" changed once the will showed up.
Gut feeling: Joe Jackson was REALLY hoping for Gary so he could make some money off it. Now... really hoping Mike specifically asked for Neverland, just to stick it to the old man one last time.
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Post by Desi on Jun 30, 2009 17:51:44 GMT -5
If they manage a private funeral for Michael, I'd be shocked. Knowing the media, they'll find a way to give the man less privacy in death than what little he had in life. Well, Michael was driven to be the biggest star in the music business back in the 80's (not to mention his people planting some stories in order to make the tabloid situation more managable- didn't work). I think it turned into a double-edged sword for him, but he had a right to be mad about some of the things printed. I agree, but I feel bad for his kids because he tried his damnedest not to have their faces plastered everywhere and now that he's gone, that's exactly what's happened.
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Post by mattperiolat on Jun 30, 2009 18:06:49 GMT -5
Well, Michael was driven to be the biggest star in the music business back in the 80's (not to mention his people planting some stories in order to make the tabloid situation more managable- didn't work). I think it turned into a double-edged sword for him, but he had a right to be mad about some of the things printed. I agree, but I feel bad for his kids because he tried his damnedest not to have their faces plastered everywhere and now that he's gone, that's exactly what's happened. Well, not justifying in any way them being plastered all over the front page, but a. their father was one of the most famous people on the planet and b. it's probably not the first time they've been exposed to the cameras. My sympathy goes out to them more if what we've heard is true and they asked to see the body at the hospital. My fiance still hasn't recovered from seeing her father after his passing.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Jun 30, 2009 18:14:00 GMT -5
I understand he was very influential but the guy was not Elvis. You're right. He was Michael Jackson. I don't mean to be disrespectful toward you or anyone else, but please understand my views; growing up as a young child in the 1980's (I was born in early 1980), there were three celebrities: Hulk Hogan, Mr. T, and Michael Jackson. As an impressionable kid, these three could do no wrong, and nobody else outside my family mattered. I actually cried - CRIED! - when Mr. T lost to Sylvester Stallone in Rocky III, even though Clubber Lang was the heel character. I cried when Hulk Hogan lost the WWF title to Andre the Giant, and - even though I was somewhat "smartened up" to the business at a young age - I cried again when Earthquake "crushed Hogan's ribs." Michael Jackson's death is a HUGE deal to people my age (and slightly older) simply because he was our Elvis. Elvis was the King of Rock-n-Roll; Michael was the King of Pop. Elvis was famous for his distinct voice and hip-swinging dance moves; Michael's voice and dance style were innovative and unique for him, too. Elvis generated a lot of controversy for "over-sexualizing" things on stage; MJ grabbed his crotch a lot, and people thought that was overly-sexual, too. Just as our parents (or in some cases, grandparents) were hit hard by Elvis's death (and, to a lesser extent, John Lennon's as well), people aged 25-45 have been hit hard by MJ's death in a way that some people might never understand. I'm not ashamed to admit that I've shed a few tears over the past few days, nor am I ashamed to admit that I will bawl like an infant when Hulk Hogan and Mr. T pass away. To some, it's silly, and I can totally understand that, but those are the icons of my childhood - and looking back, Hogan, T, and MJ were at times the only things I cared about back then - and nobody ever likes to let those things go. Again, I mean no disrespect to you or your opinion; I agree the media coverage has been insane, but I also know that, had the media been as all-encompassing and obsessive back in Elvis's day, the same thing would happen. It's inevitable.
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