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Post by mattperiolat on Jul 1, 2009 11:46:48 GMT -5
OK, got some news coming in in regards to Michael's will. It's just been unsealed and people are still going over it, but here are the highlights so far:
- Michael named his mother Kathleen and his former lawyer Baraca as co-executors of the will.
- He explicitly excluded Debbie Rowe from the will.
But here's the big news: He stated that the kids should be cared for by his mother, but if his mother should not be able to care for the kids, custody of the kids passed to Diana Ross.
No, not kidding.
More as I hear it.
EDIT: Correction - Baranca and two other lawyers and co-executors of the will, not Kathleen. All of Jackson's assets are in a Trust executed by those lawyers. More info coming out slowly, it's going to take some time to digest.
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Post by willywonka666 on Jul 1, 2009 12:21:58 GMT -5
Actually his mom's name is Katherine. It was reported back in February that Michael redid a part of his will, where Paul McCartney would regain the Beatles catalog, but that seems to be just a rumor
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Jul 1, 2009 12:56:57 GMT -5
Actually his mom's name is Katherine. It was reported back in February that Michael redid a part of his will, where Paul McCartney would regain the Beatles catalog, but that seems to be just a rumor I highly doubt that considering the Beatles catalog and his own are pretty much all he had left. I've heard a little bit about it but how much in debt was he? I heard that he was 500 million but the beatles catalog is worth like 6 or 7 hundred.
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Post by biafra on Jul 1, 2009 13:33:11 GMT -5
BTW Michael Jackson dying is too bad and all but I hate how the news is covering this. They just won't stop and it is disgusting. The guy was the freak. We know. You don't have to keep updating the fact that he is dead. One day is enough. Here we go again with the "freak" label. I've had some time to really think about Jackson's death and you know what? The man never got a fair shake from anyone, whether it be the media or the people who turned their backs on him. I made jokes about him that I now regret. It's a deep, deep regret too. Though I didn't know the guy, I realize how wrong it was to dismiss him as a freak. I'm getting really tired of people throwing around that label and pointing to the allegations, which by the way, were found to be false all the way back in 1994! Also, if you don't like Jackson, you don't even have to participate in this thread. Please accept my apologies in advance but I just can't stand the name-calling anymore. And yes, people do need a break from the doom-and-gloom every once in a while to pay their respects to another human being. Jackson touched many people (and please, NO jokes here) in a good way and deserves to ride out into the sunset. G*d damn right.
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Post by MCMGM on Jul 1, 2009 15:01:45 GMT -5
Dude, this crap is getting old. I don't completely agree with that but I will say his kids are the only ones I feel bad for here. I think Jackson was very misunderstood and I liked many of his songs. When I was a little kid he was one of my favorite singers and his mid 80s stint is still way up there. But here is the thing. Fans always try to defend him. Now I don't know if he raped kids. Honestly I doubt it. It is possible but I just don't get that vibe from him. But why defend him and say he never had a fair shake? T he guy became a millionaire and did nothing but go downhill. He had the power to get his life in order and deal with the things that his dad did to him but he didn't and that is why he is dead now. He was addicted to pain killers and couldn't get it under control. Watching interviews of him you can easily see he was in denial of the plastic surgeries and everything which is why he couldn't deal with it. He should have become a man and got his life under control. There is no excuses once you have control of your own life. Yeah, because he did nothing with his money, but sit on his ass "making it rain". How do you know how he dealt with personal problems? People don't react/act the same. Just because think you would handle something one way, doesn't mean it's the only way it should be handled. I am not by any means saying Michael was perfect, far from it, but I think gets a lot of undeserved bashing. And to respond to another comment you made, he has done more for the world than Elvis ever did. That's another reason why so many people are upset about his passing.
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Post by Janitor From Mars on Jul 1, 2009 15:16:53 GMT -5
I can't believe his albums are back on the charts. That is AMAZING.
Did the same happen when Elvis died?
He doesn't need my help in regards to radio play, though I'm tempted to sneak in one of his lesser-known songs.
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Post by willywonka666 on Jul 1, 2009 15:21:36 GMT -5
Yea, album sales always go up, not usually this many though I don't think.
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Post by mattperiolat on Jul 1, 2009 16:51:25 GMT -5
Well, we've never had a celeb like Elvis or Jackson die before in this age of iTunes, Amazon.com, etc. So the situation is more than a little unique. The closest thing I can compare it to was in 1997 when the Beatles Ones came out and started flying off the shelves and that's still nothing like this.
And just to throw things into further confusion, the Jackson family has apparently canceled plans for a public viewing at Neverland. CNN was saying the viewing or public memorial could be moved to Staples Center in LA, but honestly, everything is just so confused right now, no one seems to know. I will say that, from my point of view, given the earth moves and cement mixers that started showing up at Never Land today, I think burial will be at Neverland, in spite of what Joe Jackson says.
Could be wrong though.
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Post by Hawk Hart on Jul 1, 2009 18:24:11 GMT -5
I maintain that MJ wasn't a molester and I've gotten into several arguments over that this week.
I've been od'ing on his music since Thursday, it's amazing how much more you appreciate someone after they're gone.
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Jul 1, 2009 18:55:45 GMT -5
I maintain that MJ wasn't a molester and I've gotten into several arguments over that this week. I've been od'ing on his music since Thursday, it's amazing how much more you appreciate someone after they're gone. Agreed 100% with this entire post. (except, people don't seem to actually argue; they just accept my belief and carry on with their lives.)
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Post by Desi on Jul 1, 2009 19:19:17 GMT -5
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Post by Dangery Scubba on Jul 1, 2009 19:47:17 GMT -5
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Post by mattperiolat on Jul 1, 2009 21:22:43 GMT -5
Usually I take the NY Post with about ten tons of salt, however, given that this does seem very likely, along with Dome Project, sign me up.
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Post by The Charismatic Enabeler on Jul 2, 2009 1:22:00 GMT -5
I see my opinion got puked on. let me fire back at Mr Mosher. Bad went Platinum in 1997? The same time crap like Poison and anyone with big hair went platinum? And Thrillers rerelease went platinum in 2008? The same time garbage like My Chemical Romance and Lil Wayne was huge? Going platinum means nothing. Hasnt in a very long time. And I chose to express my opinion in here because I thought this was a fairly objective site. Guess I was mistaken. From here on I'll just stick to the WWE area where being a pedophile isnt as important as having a song on the Free Willy soundtrack.
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Post by MCMGM on Jul 2, 2009 1:39:24 GMT -5
I see my opinion got puked on. let me fire back at Mr Mosher. Bad went Platinum in 1997? The same time crap like Poison and anyone with big hair went platinum? And Thrillers rerelease went platinum in 2008? The same time garbage like My Chemical Romance and Lil Wayne was huge? Going platinum means nothing. Hasnt in a very long time. And I chose to express my opinion in here because I thought this was a fairly objective site. Guess I was mistaken. From here on I'll just stick to the WWE area where being a pedophile isnt as important as having a song on the Free Willy soundtrack. With an attitude like that, you wonder why your thoughts were met as they were?
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Jul 2, 2009 1:47:11 GMT -5
I don't completely agree with that but I will say his kids are the only ones I feel bad for here. I think Jackson was very misunderstood and I liked many of his songs. When I was a little kid he was one of my favorite singers and his mid 80s stint is still way up there. But here is the thing. Fans always try to defend him. Now I don't know if he raped kids. Honestly I doubt it. It is possible but I just don't get that vibe from him. But why defend him and say he never had a fair shake? T he guy became a millionaire and did nothing but go downhill. He had the power to get his life in order and deal with the things that his dad did to him but he didn't and that is why he is dead now. He was addicted to pain killers and couldn't get it under control. Watching interviews of him you can easily see he was in denial of the plastic surgeries and everything which is why he couldn't deal with it. He should have become a man and got his life under control. There is no excuses once you have control of your own life. Yeah, because he did nothing with his money, but sit on his ass "making it rain". How do you know how he dealt with personal problems? People don't react/act the same. Just because think you would handle something one way, doesn't mean it's the only way it should be handled. I am not by any means saying Michael was perfect, far from it, but I think gets a lot of undeserved bashing. And to respond to another comment you made, he has done more for the world than Elvis ever did. That's another reason why so many people are upset about his passing. I know how he dealt with his personal problems because look what happen to him. It is tragic sure but that doesn't mean people should be making excuses for him. And I agree with you that he does get a lot of undeserved bashing. The thing is though the stuff I'm talking about like the not dying from depending on drugs is not undeserved. As far as calling him a child molestor without really knowing I agree that is completely undeserved although he did set himself right up for it.
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Post by Chad1m on Jul 2, 2009 2:04:06 GMT -5
The same time crap like Poison and anyone with big hair went platinum?...The same time garbage like My Chemical Romance and Lil Wayne was huge? So, you pretty much don't like any popular genre of music from any time? Awesome. Going platinum means nothing. Hasnt in a very long time. Yeah, that's bull and you know it. Selling one million of anything, especially a music album, is a pretty awesome feat. The fact that you're choosing to ignore that is obviously because you're trying to crutch your tainted view. And I chose to express my opinion in here because I thought this was a fairly objective site. We're objective when you present your side of the argument intelligently and with tact.
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Post by Shy Guy on Jul 2, 2009 2:45:23 GMT -5
I see my opinion got puked on. let me fire back at Mr Mosher. Bad went Platinum in 1997? The same time crap like Poison and anyone with big hair went platinum? And Thrillers rerelease went platinum in 2008? The same time garbage like My Chemical Romance and Lil Wayne was huge? Going platinum means nothing. Hasnt in a very long time. And I chose to express my opinion in here because I thought this was a fairly objective site. Guess I was mistaken. From here on I'll just stick to the WWE area where being a pedophile isnt as important as having a song on the Free Willy soundtrack. you can voice your opinion, but show some respect. check your inbox too.
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Post by Viva on Jul 2, 2009 5:07:49 GMT -5
I see my opinion got puked on. let me fire back at Mr Mosher. Bad went Platinum in 1997? The same time crap like Poison and anyone with big hair went platinum? And Thrillers rerelease went platinum in 2008? The same time garbage like My Chemical Romance and Lil Wayne was huge? Going platinum means nothing. Hasnt in a very long time. And I chose to express my opinion in here because I thought this was a fairly objective site. Guess I was mistaken. From here on I'll just stick to the WWE area where being a pedophile isnt as important as having a song on the Free Willy soundtrack. Are you serious, dude? That's your argument? "Going platinum means nothing anymore, because I don't like the current state of popular music." That's absolutely ridiculous. Think before you spout off ridiculous bull in an attempt to save face. If you were an artist in this particular time period, do you really think you would give a shit if some forum troll said "going platinum means nothing because I don't like you." Hell the eff naw. He would be yoked because he wrote something that connected with people enough to merit selling a million copies. Just knock it off. What do you want us to do when you come in to a Michael Jackson Memorial thread with rude opinions backed by non-concrete facts? Hand you a Popsicle?
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Jul 2, 2009 6:06:55 GMT -5
I see my opinion got puked on. let me fire back at Mr Mosher. Bad went Platinum in 1997? The same time crap like Poison and anyone with big hair went platinum? And Thrillers rerelease went platinum in 2008? The same time garbage like My Chemical Romance and Lil Wayne was huge? Going platinum means nothing. Hasnt in a very long time. And I chose to express my opinion in here because I thought this was a fairly objective site. Guess I was mistaken. From here on I'll just stick to the WWE area where being a pedophile isnt as important as having a song on the Free Willy soundtrack. Are you serious, dude? That's your argument? "Going platinum means nothing anymore, because I don't like the current state of popular music." That's absolutely ridiculous. Think before you spout off ridiculous bull in an attempt to save face. If you were an artist in this particular time period, do you really think you would give a s*** if some forum troll said "going platinum means nothing because I don't like you." Hell the eff naw. He would be yoked because he wrote something that connected with people enough to merit selling a million copies. Just knock it off. What do you want us to do when you come in to a Michael Jackson Memorial thread with rude opinions backed by non-concrete facts? Hand you a Popsicle? I was gonna reply, but you covered it. Bravo.
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