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Post by Wrath Draven on Dec 25, 2008 21:59:11 GMT -5
What would they have done if when Shawn Michaels skinned the cat at the end, he would have lost his grip on the ropes and clearly landed on the floor.
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Post by texan on Dec 25, 2008 22:08:38 GMT -5
If he had let go of the rope, as long as he landed on one foot, they could just play it off by saying that BOTH feet had to touch the floor and that he wasn't eliminated thereby saving the ending. If he let go of the rope and both of his feet touched, then they'd have a problem.....
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 25, 2008 22:36:06 GMT -5
Pretty simple, have Bulldog put his title shot on the line for some reason and lose to HBK. Since HBK didn't go over at Mania that year, it's not like he needed to run the gaunlet. It was kind of impressive, but not really since the whole Rumble was like 35 minutes that year.
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Post by markdown474 on Dec 26, 2008 7:52:44 GMT -5
Pretty simple, have Bulldog put his title shot on the line for some reason and lose to HBK. Since HBK didn't go over at Mania that year, it's not like he needed to run the gaunlet. It was kind of impressive, but not really since the whole Rumble was like 35 minutes that year. Yeah that's exactly what I could see happening in that situation. It always pissed me off that they reduced the time between participants to 1 minute for that Royal Rumble, then try to play off Shawn Michaels performance as the greatest in Rumble history since he was (up until that time) the only man to have drawn number one and won the event. As if anyone was looking at it as more impressive than Ric Flair's awesome shawing in the 92 Rumble (IMO the best Rumble ever).
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Post by Single H on Dec 26, 2008 8:49:23 GMT -5
Pretty simple, have Bulldog put his title shot on the line for some reason and lose to HBK. Since HBK didn't go over at Mania that year, it's not like he needed to run the gaunlet. It was kind of impressive, but not really since the whole Rumble was like 35 minutes that year. That's something I never really thought of the Rumble did only last 35 minutes. Making Michaels win sound not as impressive if the Rumble did go full length which it should have. I think it was because of how weak the card was at that time and the amount of filler they had they decided to adjust the time of the wrestlers coming in. The Rumble was still fun but not what It should have been. 96 Rumble looking back was not much better either. Both won by Michaels. Also there two lowest years. Headlined by Hart,l Michaels, Diesel and for a Short time Sid (end of 96). If both feet did touch at the end of the Rumble they would have either tried to play it off or have Michaels win the title shot off Bulldog at a later date have it put up for what ever reason (even perhaps moving In Your House forward. I know that Michaels Vs Bulldog for the title shot has a much better appeal to it the Sid VS Diesel for the WWF Championship). Ir perhaps they would have had a 3 way for the first time at Wrestlemaina 11. I know for one that I would have loved to see Bulldog in the main event in one way or the other. He should have been given a title run. During either 95 or 96. They perhaps would have gotten better ratings with Bulldog as champion. Instead they turn him heel for no good reason as they had nothing much at that time for him to do and kept the worst drawing champion ever with the belt at the already lowest year ever. To loose the belt back to Hart at the Survivor Series and even with Hart on top (and later Michaels) the ratings didn't get any better nor did the buy rates. Because of the damage which was done when Diesel was champion for almost a year.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 26, 2008 9:19:29 GMT -5
As for Bulldog being in the main event, he did get 2 PPV main events against Bret and Diesel later in the year and I doubt very much he would be the one to suddenly put ratings through the roof.
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Post by Single H on Dec 26, 2008 9:24:45 GMT -5
As for Bulldog being in the main event, he did get 2 PPV main events against Bret and Diesel later in the year and I doubt very much he would be the one to suddenly put ratings through the roof. Iam not saying he would 'put ratings through the roof'. However I meant he would be a better draw then Diesel on top. His main events were against Hart at the end of the WWFs worst ever year (95) as well as a very bland In Your House 4 against Diesel. (which went to a no contest) and King Of The Ring 96 which IMO was decent to good. He should have been given a chance with the belt at some point. He would have made a much better champion than Diesel or Sid. Who were both very bland and boring as Champion.
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Post by Jiren on Dec 26, 2008 10:25:20 GMT -5
I don't see how people can say HBK's performance was better than Flair's (Not saying anyone here has, Im just saying).
1992 was a who's Who of MAJOR stars
- Flair - Taker - Savage - Hogan - Sid - Bulldog - Piper
as People have said HBK going 1 to winning is impressive but it was about 30 mins and had mostly midcarders at best (Aside from Luger, Bulldog & HBK)
Also having Owen & Backlund in for about 20 seconds COMBINED was a pain in the ass
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Post by BitterAF on Dec 26, 2008 10:33:15 GMT -5
If both of HBK's feet hit the floor at some point, they could of edited it out quick before they showed the replay.
But 1995 did kind of suck. Kind of because it was the first Rumble I ever ordered on PPV.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 26, 2008 11:10:03 GMT -5
As for Bulldog being in the main event, he did get 2 PPV main events against Bret and Diesel later in the year and I doubt very much he would be the one to suddenly put ratings through the roof. Iam not saying he would 'put ratings through the roof'. However I meant he would be a better draw then Diesel on top. His main events were against Hart at the end of the WWFs worst ever year (95) as well as a very bland In Your House 4 against Diesel. (which went to a no contest) and King Of The Ring 96 which IMO was decent to good. He should have been given a chance with the belt at some point. He would have made a much better champion than Diesel or Sid. Who were both very bland and boring as Champion. To each his own suppose, I don't think anyone would've been a better draw at that point. HBK, Bret, Sid had the belt at that point and it didn't really make much of a difference. I doubt Bulldog would've had an effect.
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Post by peopleschamp on Dec 26, 2008 17:39:32 GMT -5
It was obvious once Diesel retained against Bret in the Title Match that HBK was going to win the Rumble, I think thats what made it disappointing along with the said shortened intervals between entrants. Also having Pammie Anderson being there and her scheduled to accompany the winner in the Title Match at Mania sort fitted HBK's persona.
Btw, is it true come Mania Time, backstage HBK and Tommy Lee got into an altercation over Shawn "hitting on" Pammie leading Diesel to calm Tommy Lee down. I remember reading somewhere Lee told Pammie to leave and then hurriedly they agreed for Pammie to Accompany Diesel, and therefore Jenny McCarthy to escort HBK for the entrances in the Main Event?
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Post by Single H on Dec 27, 2008 4:31:27 GMT -5
Btw, is it true come Mania Time, backstage HBK and Tommy Lee got into an altercation over Shawn "hitting on" Pammie leading Diesel to calm Tommy Lee down. I remember reading somewhere Lee told Pammie to leave and then hurriedly they agreed for Pammie to Accompany Diesel, and therefore Jenny McCarthy to escort HBK for the entrances in the Main Event?[/quote]
It never made seance to me why they switched who they were going to ring with and it never was explained on screen as to why they switched either. So this may be what happened
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Post by peopleschamp on Dec 27, 2008 16:24:51 GMT -5
I'm Sure Nash confirmed this in an interview several months later. Shawn was being his usual self back in 1995 and Nash stepped in to save Shawn from getting a slap.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 27, 2008 18:15:27 GMT -5
I don't see how people can say HBK's performance was better than Flair's (Not saying anyone here has, Im just saying). 1992 was a who's Who of MAJOR stars - Flair - Taker - Savage - Hogan - Sid - Bulldog - Piper as People have said HBK going 1 to winning is impressive but it was about 30 mins and had mostly midcarders at best (Aside from Luger, Bulldog & HBK) Also having Owen & Backlund in for about 20 seconds COMBINED was a pain in the ass I still say 90 had far better star power. I like Bulldog, but he was never really a major star. He kind of drifted aimlessly, with the exception of SummerSlam 92, for pretty much his whole singles run in the WWF...all the years combined. Title shots and main events notwithstanding.
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Post by Dean-o on Dec 28, 2008 3:32:48 GMT -5
As much as I'm a mark for HBK's first Rumble win (entering at #1!), the Rumble was horrible. Full of jobbers. Aside from HBK, Lugar, or Bulldog, you knew no one else had a shot of winning, as Owen was in and out before you knew it.
Oh my god! Aldo Montoya is next! Could he be going to WrestleMania? How about Kwang? Or Eli Blue? Or Duke "The Dumbster"!
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Post by Mr Captain Falcon on Dec 28, 2008 10:58:00 GMT -5
If you watch close enough to 2008, Hardcore Holly gets eliminated twice. Once by Undertaker and once by Umaga. Watch it.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Dec 28, 2008 19:20:38 GMT -5
Maybe Vince would've got up from commentary, struted down to the ring and say "I changed the rules not only both feet have to touch, but both hands have to touch as well"
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