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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jan 1, 2009 19:29:48 GMT -5
cause he's an asshole. and you are allowed to call an asshole an asshole. just like people are allowed to call the Ultimate Warrior an asshole. if you noticed. no one said anything about denying David Sammartino the right to his opinion. he gave his, and the fans are giving them back. How do you know he's an asshole? You don't even know the guy. It's like reading all these people online talking about guys they don't even know such as HHH and saying he's an asshole because of what they read on newz sites. So because he gave an unpopular opinion of a wrestler that happens to be well-liked, that makes him an asshole? Doesn't make much sense to me. I'd wager if he had said something negative about someone like Hogan or Warrior, it'd be filled with comments probably praising him. calling someone an asshole is an opinion. are you trying to deny me my opinion? also, you don't have to meet someone to know they're an asshole. i never met Adolf Hitler. have you?
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 1, 2009 19:30:11 GMT -5
Why does Sammartino's mouth hang open for like 4-5 seconds before he begins speaking? I think he got that from his father as I noticed he did that also sometimes.
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Post by lildude8218 on Jan 1, 2009 19:31:07 GMT -5
why was David doing a Bruno impression in that video? He never used to sound like his dad.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 1, 2009 19:31:16 GMT -5
How do you know he's an asshole? You don't even know the guy. It's like reading all these people online talking about guys they don't even know such as HHH and saying he's an asshole because of what they read on newz sites. So because he gave an unpopular opinion of a wrestler that happens to be well-liked, that makes him an asshole? Doesn't make much sense to me. I'd wager if he had said something negative about someone like Hogan or Warrior, it'd be filled with comments probably praising him. calling someone an asshole is an opinion. are you trying to deny me my opinion? also, you don't have to meet someone to know they're an asshole. i never met Adolf Hitler. have you? Just seems like you're being insulting rather than forming an opinion. Of course there are exceptions to the rule, when David goes on a killing spree, give me a call. Still I don't see how you can know a person from a single comment such as the one in the video. From what I hear he's a very down to earth person. Otherwise I don't see what's so bad or wrong about what he is saying.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jan 1, 2009 19:32:31 GMT -5
calling someone an asshole is an opinion. are you trying to deny me my opinion? also, you don't have to meet someone to know they're an asshole. i never met Adolf Hitler. have you? Just seems like you're being insulting rather than forming an opinion. Of course there are exceptions to the rule, when David goes on a killing spree, give me a call. Otherwise I don't see what's so bad or wrong about what he is saying. fine. you don't, other people do
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 1, 2009 19:35:15 GMT -5
Just seems like you're being insulting rather than forming an opinion. Of course there are exceptions to the rule, when David goes on a killing spree, give me a call. Otherwise I don't see what's so bad or wrong about what he is saying. fine. you don't, other people do Fine, but how is he wrong in what he is saying? You mean there aren't promoters who aren't salivating at the opportunity to take advantage of someone who likes to get thrown off of things and take ungodly amounts of punishment? I like Foley, but honestly I don't see how throwing yourself off the top of the cell is exactly a wise move health-wise.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jan 1, 2009 19:38:50 GMT -5
fine. you don't, other people do Fine, but how is he wrong in what he is saying? You mean there aren't promoters who aren't salivating at the opportunity to take advantage of someone who likes to get thrown off of things and take ungodly amounts of punishment? I like Foley, but honestly I don't see how throwing yourself off the top of the cell is exactly a wise move health-wise. oh my god. THE PROBLEM IS NOT WHAT HE SAID, BUT HOW HE SAID IT
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Post by lildude8218 on Jan 1, 2009 19:41:10 GMT -5
ok, enough with the large bold text. it's getting ridiculous. both of you just move on.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 1, 2009 19:41:19 GMT -5
Fine, but how is he wrong in what he is saying? You mean there aren't promoters who aren't salivating at the opportunity to take advantage of someone who likes to get thrown off of things and take ungodly amounts of punishment? I like Foley, but honestly I don't see how throwing yourself off the top of the cell is exactly a wise move health-wise. oh my god. THE PROBLEM IS NOT WHAT HE SAID, BUT HOW HE SAID ITAnd as I had asked before (but just too lazy to increase font size), where does it say that he has to be soft-spoken and walk on eggshells when he's describing or talking about something or someone? Hell, I like Foley but it does seem pretty idiotic to go up there and nearly get yourself killed for a wrestling match.
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Post by Triple Kelly on Jan 1, 2009 19:45:19 GMT -5
ok, enough with the large bold text. it's getting ridiculous. both of you just move on. I was about to say that and you beat me, dang you. My biggest issue is that Sammartino is speaking about Foley like Vince McMahon is the one that discovered him (at least this is the impression I got). And is saying Foley is to blame for kids wanting to do backyard wrestling. It's the same old "movies and video games are influencing bad behavior!" I watch Foley and I never wanted to emulate him in the ring. What are the odds.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jan 1, 2009 19:46:21 GMT -5
oh my god. THE PROBLEM IS NOT WHAT HE SAID, BUT HOW HE SAID ITAnd as I had asked before (but just too lazy to increase font size), where does it say that he has to be soft-spoken and walk on eggshells when he's describing or talking about something or someone? Hell, I like Foley but it does seem pretty idiotic to go up there and nearly get yourself killed for a wrestling match. um, he called Foley an idiot so yeah i think we get he's not soft-spoken ...maybe calling Foley an idiot is a reason to disagree with his assessment
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jan 1, 2009 19:48:33 GMT -5
ok, enough with the large bold text. it's getting ridiculous. both of you just move on. the point of the bolt text is to hopefully get him to read the answer to his question. Question: "What is wrong in what he is saying?" Answer: "Its not what he said that was wrong, but how he said it."
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 1, 2009 19:49:05 GMT -5
And as I had asked before (but just too lazy to increase font size), where does it say that he has to be soft-spoken and walk on eggshells when he's describing or talking about something or someone? Hell, I like Foley but it does seem pretty idiotic to go up there and nearly get yourself killed for a wrestling match. um, he called Foley an idiot so yeah i think we get he's not soft-spoken ...maybe calling Foley an idiot is a reason to disagree with his assessment Someone willing to fall off the top of a 30-foot cage through a table below and hurting themselves on purpose doesn't seem like a smart move. Seems like a rather accurate assessment.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jan 1, 2009 19:52:49 GMT -5
um, he called Foley an idiot so yeah i think we get he's not soft-spoken ...maybe calling Foley an idiot is a reason to disagree with his assessment Someone willing to fall off the top of a 30-foot cage through a table below and hurting themselves on purpose doesn't seem like a smart move. Seems like a rather accurate assessment. and Foley will be long remembered for that one "idiotic" stunt. what will David Sammartino ever be remembered for besides curing insomnia? oh, and it wasn't 30 feet
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Post by invaderdave on Jan 1, 2009 19:53:09 GMT -5
I really think its hilarious that, once Flair made it okay to bag on Foley, everyone has done it. The fact is, Foley, for whatever limitations he's had as a wrestler, more than made up for them. He is a wrestler that, without the benefit of technical wrestling skill, has had some of the best matches of the nineties. Yes, he's had some hardcore battles, but he's also had great matches with the likes of Sting, Shawn Michaels, the Undertaker, and Triple H.
To place the blame on his shoulders for kids getting hurt in their backyards would be like blaming McDonalds for making a person fat. Foley has never once sat a kid in a chair and told him "hey, carve yourself up in front of your friends with a cheesegraters. And videotape it." Just like McDonalds never had a commercial where Ronald McDonald said "Eat our food three times a day! Don't exercise!" I'm certain that a guy would watch a Cactus Jack match, and go "Damn, thats cool as HELL!", but whether or not he goes out back and emulates it is up to his own dumb ass, not up to Foley.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 1, 2009 19:54:32 GMT -5
Someone willing to fall off the top of a 30-foot cage through a table below and hurting themselves on purpose doesn't seem like a smart move. Seems like a rather accurate assessment. and Foley will be long remembered for that one "idiotic" stunt. what will David Sammartino ever be remembered for besides curing insomnia? oh, and it wasn't 30 feet And as I also mentioned earlier David would probably agree with you on that assessment as he had said in that shoot that he was mediocre in the ring and didn't belong there. Doesn't mean that what David said had any less merit. I don't need to main event Wrestlemania to know that if I fall off HIAC I'd probably dislocate my shoulder or could possibly risk paralysis if I land the wrong way. 20 feet, 30 feet, still it was high enough to injure him so I'd say it was still very much idiotic to go through with it.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jan 1, 2009 19:59:54 GMT -5
and Foley will be long remembered for that one "idiotic" stunt. what will David Sammartino ever be remembered for besides curing insomnia? oh, and it wasn't 30 feet And as I also mentioned earlier David would probably agree with you on that assessment as he had said in that shoot that he was mediocre in the ring and didn't belong there. 20 feet, 30 feet, still it was high enough to injure him so I'd say it was still very much idiotic to go through with it. and Foley has admitted it wasn't the brightest idea in the world. he's also done more in his career than just that one fall. he was responsible for some of the funniest moments in WWE history, but lets not talk about that when discussing his career. he wrote several books, not all just about wrestling or even for adults, but lets not talk about that when discussing his career. he put over several rising stars including Triple H, Randy Orton and Edge, but lets not talk about that when discussing his career.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 1, 2009 20:02:32 GMT -5
And as I also mentioned earlier David would probably agree with you on that assessment as he had said in that shoot that he was mediocre in the ring and didn't belong there. 20 feet, 30 feet, still it was high enough to injure him so I'd say it was still very much idiotic to go through with it. and Foley has admitted it wasn't the brightest idea in the world. he's also done more in his career than just that one fall. he was responsible for some of the funniest moments in WWE history, but lets not talk about that when discussing his career. he wrote several books, not all just about wrestling or even for adults, but lets not talk about that when discussing his career. he put over several rising stars including Triple H, Randy Orton and Edge, but lets not talk about that when discussing his career. At least he admitted it, so that's one more thing to get out of the way. And I never once claimed that Foley wasn't selfless, hell if anything I think he's too much of a jobber and lost too much in wanting to put people over and that just being in the ring with Foley should put the other person over. But that's not what I'm talking about here. My thing was the move falling off HIAC especially when one wrong slip and he could've fell on the guard rail and maybe even killed himself and it was incredibly stupid and idiotic to do.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jan 1, 2009 20:08:03 GMT -5
and Foley has admitted it wasn't the brightest idea in the world. he's also done more in his career than just that one fall. he was responsible for some of the funniest moments in WWE history, but lets not talk about that when discussing his career. he wrote several books, not all just about wrestling or even for adults, but lets not talk about that when discussing his career. he put over several rising stars including Triple H, Randy Orton and Edge, but lets not talk about that when discussing his career. At least he admitted it, so that's one more thing to get out of the way. And I never once claimed that Foley wasn't selfless, hell if anything I think he's too much of a jobber and lost too much in wanting to put people over and that just being in the ring with Foley should put the other person over. But that's not what I'm talking about here. My thing was the move falling off HIAC especially when one wrong slip and he could've fell on the guard rail and maybe even killed himself and it was incredibly stupid and idiotic to do. i just pointed out Foley said it wasn't the smartest thing in the world to do, and your response to that is to say that it was "incredibly stupid and idiotic". can i say David Sammartino was a crappy wrestler or would you once again point out he agrees to that?
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 1, 2009 20:11:11 GMT -5
At least he admitted it, so that's one more thing to get out of the way. And I never once claimed that Foley wasn't selfless, hell if anything I think he's too much of a jobber and lost too much in wanting to put people over and that just being in the ring with Foley should put the other person over. But that's not what I'm talking about here. My thing was the move falling off HIAC especially when one wrong slip and he could've fell on the guard rail and maybe even killed himself and it was incredibly stupid and idiotic to do. i just pointed out Foley said it wasn't the smartest thing in the world to do, and your response to that is to say that it was "incredibly stupid and idiotic". can i say David Sammartino was a crappy wrestler or would you once again point out he agrees to that? It was incredibly stupid and idiotic to do that, no question about it. Also you forgot the part where I wrote "At least he admitted it", but thanks anyways. And he was a crappy wrestler and he would agree to that if you were to say that. I just don't see why David can't say that without reprisal. What's the difference if he said it or someone else who was more successful? It was still a very idiotic move. If I did what Foley did, I'd expect people to call me an idiot too.
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