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Post by D2: Sweet & Sour Edition on Sept 10, 2009 1:10:44 GMT -5
(UNOFFICIAL) Vote Count:
Al Bundy: 5 (theotherkevin, D-lirious-2, Daveman, TTS, The Dom) D-lirious-2: 1 (Al Bundy)
NOT VOTING: Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan Real Folk Bruce Ravishing One is in a locker! Cena fears Miz fears Me
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Post by Daveman on Sept 10, 2009 1:12:29 GMT -5
You know what IF what Delirious is saying is true I know what Bruces role is, which means lynching him is a very bad idea. I did not come to that conclusion myself. I don't know how much consideration jag put into flavor roles for this game, and I hate trying to outguess the mod, but that role (as actual royalty, complete with accessories) doesn't really make a lot of sense in the Old West. It's entirely possible it exists, but my initial reaction was that he's the prostitute/Mafia roleblocker, and those items were part of his lady-of-the-night costume. Wait, I'd like a clarification from D-lirious-2 before we proceed to a lynch (or run into a deadline due to inactive posters): if you're snooping around, who sent you the envelope with the money and attached note? Are you telling us that you did not, in fact, investigate Al Bundy last night?
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Post by Daveman on Sept 10, 2009 1:15:08 GMT -5
EBWOP: 5 votes for Bundy? Really? Unvote. I don't want Al lynched until we get an answer to this seeming discrepancy in your story. I still don't trust him, but we're too far gone to make another lynching blunder right now.
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Post by D2: Sweet & Sour Edition on Sept 10, 2009 1:23:07 GMT -5
I "sent the envelope". I tried to word it in a way not to give me away as the guy snooping around.
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Post by The Dom on Sept 10, 2009 1:28:11 GMT -5
What I'm thinking based on what has come up in the write up is that we have multiple Mason groups or potential Mason groups. The Town Thief and D2 could be masoned which would be how D2 gets his info and how he knows who the thief is. A Beloved Princess makes perfect sense no matter what time period. The articles he was given as the clue could have just been the hint to the characters role rather than flavor role.
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Post by Daveman on Sept 10, 2009 1:28:31 GMT -5
And the attached note? Did you make that up?
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Post by D2: Sweet & Sour Edition on Sept 10, 2009 1:33:34 GMT -5
Yes. I found a HUGE wad of cash when snooping around Bundy's room. I fabricated the envelope and note as a way to try and mask myself as the man snooping from room to room.
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Post by Daveman on Sept 10, 2009 1:34:07 GMT -5
All right, I think I'm just being overly paranoid. I just really don't want to miss this lynch, and D-2 really does sound like he has an information role. (I had thought initially that you were a Mafia Self-Watcher when you were talking about knowing the identities of targeting roles, but if you're telling the truth about Bruce this would be impossible.)
I'm going to (once again) trust that you're not lying and re-Vote: Al Bundy.
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Sept 10, 2009 16:26:38 GMT -5
So, we need one more vote. This might very well be my last post while being active in this game, so I hope the town can pull one out.
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Post by Real Folk Bruce on Sept 10, 2009 23:12:34 GMT -5
Personally, their is not enough proof for me to vote against either one of them. At this point I've decided to not vote.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Sept 11, 2009 0:44:47 GMT -5
I'm holding off for now. I'm not entirely convinced and I trust neither Al nor D-lirious-2. However, It's better to remove a distraction then to allow potential scum free reign.
And I've still got my eye on you Bruce.
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Post by Daveman on Sept 11, 2009 3:01:48 GMT -5
Personally, their is not enough proof for me to vote against either one of them. At this point I've decided to not vote. This is actually very simple: is D-lirious-2, as far as you know based on your role information, telling the truth about what he took from you? If so, you can probably trust him about what he's saying about Bundy. And Untouchable, I've still got my eye on you. You don't post at all during the big Bundy/D-2 debate, then chime in only to repeat what Bruce said while also pointing the finger at him (a player whose role, from what we can infer from D-2's investigation, has a detrimental effect on the town when he's lynched). And I really don't know how people can say there is not enough proof. An investigator has stepped forward and revealed what he knows. No one has counterclaimed the role. We have to assume he's telling the truth.
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Post by D2: Sweet & Sour Edition on Sept 11, 2009 3:10:58 GMT -5
Daveman, here's what I'm thinking.
Due to Bruce's role, if he's lynched, we lose, but he also has the disability of not being able to cast the deciding vote in a lynch. (I'm typing this before going back and checking out the other lynches) I've seen it in other games. Kinda sucks.
"However, It's better to remove a distraction then to allow potential scum free reign." So...you're not going to vote, even with the information brought forward, yet you want to remove a distraction? Please, explain.
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Post by Daveman on Sept 11, 2009 3:19:21 GMT -5
Daveman, here's what I'm thinking. Due to Bruce's role, if he's lynched, we lose, but he also has the disability of not being able to cast the deciding vote in a lynch. (I'm typing this before going back and checking out the other lynches) I've seen it in other games. Kinda sucks. Wow. I've never seen that variation before. If that's a real thing, would it be a dick move for someone to unvote just so Bruce (if he decides to) could get in his vote? Looking back over the two lynches, I can't find Bruce casting the deciding vote. In fact, I can't find him casting a vote for either jazzman or RX at the time of their lynches.
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Post by D2: Sweet & Sour Edition on Sept 11, 2009 3:22:55 GMT -5
Then perhaps it's just a "You can't vote" type of deal? Another variation I've heard of.
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Post by Daveman on Sept 11, 2009 3:33:40 GMT -5
Well, I know he's tried to vote but couldn't get the hang of that pesky "only bolded votes count" rule, and the one time he did bold his vote he edited his post to do so, and thus jagilki didn't count it.
I hope Bruce shows up again before deadline.
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Post by Daveman on Sept 11, 2009 3:34:23 GMT -5
EBWOP: I hope Bruce shows up again before deadline. And sticks around for a little bit to answer a few questions.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Sept 11, 2009 4:33:12 GMT -5
Due to Bruce's role, if he's lynched, we lose, but he also has the disability of not being able to cast the deciding vote in a lynch. (I'm typing this before going back and checking out the other lynches) I've seen it in other games. Kinda sucks. Priest role. Kind of a handy claim when playing as Mafia if you don't get called out on it. "However, It's better to remove a distraction then to allow potential scum free reign." So...you're not going to vote, even with the information brought forward, yet you want to remove a distraction? Please, explain. First and foremost, It's one persons idea that has been put forward. I'm holding off because, although you have put through strong claims, I simply trust neither of the nominated players. If it gets closer to the deadline and a vote is needed then I'll vote. The removal of a distraction thing is simple. A character that comes across as scum and constantly going against the grain is a distraction. If in the event that the town has no leads then go for the distraction. You either kill someone in the mafia or someone that isn't a good townie player.
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Post by D2: Sweet & Sour Edition on Sept 11, 2009 9:01:22 GMT -5
Due to Bruce's role, if he's lynched, we lose, but he also has the disability of not being able to cast the deciding vote in a lynch. (I'm typing this before going back and checking out the other lynches) I've seen it in other games. Kinda sucks. Priest role. Kind of a handy claim when playing as Mafia if you don't get called out on it. "However, It's better to remove a distraction then to allow potential scum free reign." So...you're not going to vote, even with the information brought forward, yet you want to remove a distraction? Please, explain. First and foremost, It's one persons idea that has been put forward. I'm holding off because, although you have put through strong claims, I simply trust neither of the nominated players. If it gets closer to the deadline and a vote is needed then I'll vote. The removal of a distraction thing is simple. A character that comes across as scum and constantly going against the grain is a distraction. If in the event that the town has no leads then go for the distraction. You either kill someone in the mafia or someone that isn't a good townie player. *stares at you* Have you not been reading the information brought forth? Why would a priest need a tiara and scepter? But hey, it's cool. I understand. We'll get more answers here a little later.
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Post by Ravishing One on Sept 11, 2009 15:57:47 GMT -5
Hey guys, sorry about the huge gap in posting. I was out of town and away from the internet.
D-lirious, I am calling bull crap on your "investigation" and
Vote D-lirious-2
If it looks like a duck, etc, etc.
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