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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Sept 6, 2009 23:06:29 GMT -5
Lots of good points are being made, it seems. I'm somewhat surprised to see that we went from Bruce being a big suspect on the previous day to almost no one suspecting him today, though. Anyone want to take a crack at explaining why he's dropped off the lynching radar?
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Post by Daveman on Sept 6, 2009 23:28:30 GMT -5
From where are you getting that D-2 is a thief? My understanding of his post is that an anonymous tipster sent him the letter and that he did no sleuthing of his own. If that is true than I'm gonna call BS. In all the time I have played I have never seen a role that has information handed to them. The only logical things that would be able to give him information at all would be Cop (Dead already) unless we have do have another cop which I'm not to sure about, a thief which is what I'm thinking makes the most sense, or a JOAT, which would make sense but I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that. I've participated in and watched games that had investigators that leaked results. My favorite was one called Gaslight Mafia, in which there were several investigators of varying skill. I believe the role of Hercule Poirot was one of the so-called second tier investigators whose drawback was that he would "brag" and reveal the results of his nightly investigation to one of two or three people, chosen at random. It's possible something like that is going on here, although I'm not taking that possibility too seriously at the moment. Now, about another cop in the game, I think it's almost a certainty. Look at these excerpts from Day scenes: Dead Hary Lockhart: Marshall Troy Dixon (Cop)Like the night before though. Somebody weeps at this death. Geraldine "Frontier" Hall steps up to take the place she always knew she would. In the morning she calmly takes the Marshalls star and pins it to her chest. "Forutune" will pay for this. And so will The Rest of the Mafia So she swears. Geraldine "Frontier" Hall is slinking in the shadows. She's looking for the Marshals killer. And she aims to find him. However, before she gets a chance to, Jessica Rustler stops her on the street. So, we have Geraldine Hall looking for the Sheriff's killer. If not a full-blown cop, she's at least an investigator of some kind. (Unfortunately, it looks like she was roleblocked last night.) And about the presence of a thief, I think "Mesa" Palmer fits the bill: ”Mesa” Palmer is looking for those scoundrels who stole his beloved Donkey Besse. He's seen rifling through some luggage when he finds a clue. “Hoooo Doggies. That's a sweet clue” Meanwhile... In another part of town Ronald "Mesa" Palmer is seen heading into yet another door. Leaving with a bundle. We still have two information roles, so we're not that bad off. However, following the successful roleblock, it looks like the Mafia knows the identity of Geraldine Hall, and they can continue to roleblock her indefinitely negating her power. I'm also assuming she received the results of Harry Lockheart's investigation after he died. With these two thoughts in mind, would it be the worst idea for Geraldine to reveal herself? We could find out the alignment of Harry's investigation plus clear Geraldine's player in the process. We're nearing the endgame and we need to do something to gain ground on the Mafia. |
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Post by Daveman on Sept 6, 2009 23:30:03 GMT -5
Lots of good points are being made, it seems. I'm somewhat surprised to see that we went from Bruce being a big suspect on the previous day to almost no one suspecting him today, though. Anyone want to take a crack at explaining why he's dropped off the lynching radar? I don't think he's dropped off so much as taken a backseat to the Tim and Al Bundy v. D-lirious-2 debate. |
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Sept 7, 2009 5:13:19 GMT -5
Well, in my death post I'll just say-I expected this. I believe I was getting somewhere, and was becoming a target as such. I hope you can continue the good work in my absence, and remember the day a fine British immigrant was murdered by these scum. Cheerie-o.
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Post by The Dom on Sept 7, 2009 5:32:48 GMT -5
Trix and coco puffs to you too
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Post by D2: Sweet & Sour Edition on Sept 7, 2009 20:49:28 GMT -5
Al, it's great how you go into so much detail in order to make everybody think you're one of them. You go through each and every slight detail, pointing out every word, in a long, thought out, boring statement. Such statements would put the heat off you, making the town think you're one of them, when in reality you're getting a threat knocked off during the day, and killing another one at night.
I've been given information. Information I cannot share because it would put those people in jeopardy. I've been given the name of the town doctor. I know who has been going from room to room stealing things in search of his donkey. And now, I'm a target.
In reguards to posting after "lurking" for a while, real life takes priority, and getting to spend time with my fiancee who I rarely get to see because of college is going to take priority over this game.
Al Bundy is Mafia. And I'll go one step further. If we get a lynch on him, and it turns out he's town, I'll lynch myself tomorrow.
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Post by Daveman on Sept 7, 2009 21:19:50 GMT -5
I've been given information. Information I cannot share because it would put those people in jeopardy. I've been given the name of the town doctor. I know who has been going from room to room stealing things in search of his donkey. And now, I'm a target. How did you come by this information? You were given this information, yes, but was it given to you by another player? If so, was it anonymous or do you also know the name of the player who gave it to you? (Related: do you know you can trust this player?) I might be in favor of you revealing these players' names. If you're right, we can confirm a few townies and make it that much easier to lynch Mafia. |
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Post by D2: Sweet & Sour Edition on Sept 7, 2009 21:26:40 GMT -5
Yes, I know the person who gave me the information, and yes, it is somebody that is trustworthy.
The biggest problem with revealing player names? They're next when it comes to a night kill. Hell, I'm probably next in terms of a night kill.
I can tell you this. I'm 100% sure you're not Mafia Daveman.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2009 21:29:49 GMT -5
Al, it's great how you go into so much detail in order to make everybody think you're one of them. You go through each and every slight detail, pointing out every word, in a long, thought out, boring statement. Such statements would put the heat off you, making the town think you're one of them, when in reality you're getting a threat knocked off during the day, and killing another one at night. Al Bundy is far from the only person guilty of doing this Dom and Daveman are also doing this Do you suggest we Lynch them too? |
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Post by Daveman on Sept 7, 2009 21:37:29 GMT -5
The biggest problem with revealing player names? They're next when it comes to a night kill. Hell, I'm probably next in terms of a night kill. Well, yes, but that just makes the doctor's job easier, since he has fewer targets and a smart Mafia will take out confirmed townies. The problem with not revealing names is that it effectively negates the information. Yes, one person knows who is or is not Mafia, but it doesn't help the Town make more informed lynches. We're nearing the end-game, and we have yet to lynch a single Mafia. If that trend continues, we will lose the game. I don't want to force you into revealing what you know, but we need something that will reverse this Town's luck, and this sounds like our best bet. |
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Post by psychotix5000 on Sept 7, 2009 22:27:40 GMT -5
I still think D2 is mafia along with Ravishing (who has dropped off the planet again) and Real Folk Bruce (ditto). With D2 gone, his scum buddies are going to be easy pickings and this game will be won. I don't like that he won't come forward with his "sources." If it helps the town, why would he hesitate? Simple. He's making it up. And of course he knows Daveman isn't mafia. It's because he's not part of D2's scummy entourage. Daveman, like I said before, I don't know what caused Tim and Al to lurk (personal issues or whatever) but I died a townie and took over a townie. If I die, we yet again lose one of the most productive players in this game. I'm pretty damn certain that if I get lynched, Daveman's next. While he hasn't exactly been on the money, he's getting very close and the mafia is sweating him. |
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Sept 8, 2009 19:01:06 GMT -5
Al, your panicing. The amount of posts you've made has nothing to do with your preductiveness. We've gotten no mafia so far, and more and more townies are dieing off each day. Information has come up that points the finger at you, and you are doing nothing to help your cause.
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Post by jagilki on Sept 9, 2009 15:46:59 GMT -5
With Talk stalled, I'm putting a 24 hour deadline up.
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Post by D2: Sweet & Sour Edition on Sept 9, 2009 15:49:35 GMT -5
We've got 24 hours to figure something out guys. I'm keeping with my vote on Al, and also keeping with my promise of a suicide if I'm wrong. Either way, I'm probably dead tonight as it is. I don't think the Mafia is too happy that I'm seeing through their BS.
***Side note: posting sucks when you have to use an iTouch cause you aren't home***
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Post by Daveman on Sept 9, 2009 22:30:12 GMT -5
UnvoteWe've got 24 hours to figure something out guys. I'm keeping with my vote on Al, and also keeping with my promise of a suicide if I'm wrong. Either way, I'm probably dead tonight as it is. I don't think the Mafia is too happy that I'm seeing through their BS. ***Side note: posting sucks when you have to use an iTouch cause you aren't home*** If you really think you're going to die tonight, you should share what you know. No sense taking the information to your grave when it could confirm two townies. Vote: Al Bundy. I pray to God you're telling the truth and that this move doesn't help throw away the game. Also, Mod can we get a prod of our inactive players? If there's an in-game reason why they've been so quiet or are lurking as part of a strategy, that's fine; but I'm going to be really upset if they're aware of the game and still refuse to post.
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Post by Daveman on Sept 9, 2009 22:31:25 GMT -5
Oh, and if you do prod the players at your earliest convenience, could we get an extra 24 hours to make sure they have an opportunity to post?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2009 22:38:55 GMT -5
I'd also like to echo the statement from Daveman
If D-Lirious knows something then speak up no sense in letting more people die
Also now that I've read back I'll have to go with the majority
Al has been nothing but suspicious and appears to be panicing now
VOTE:AL BUNDY
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Post by jagilki on Sept 9, 2009 22:39:19 GMT -5
Deadline will be Friday at 11:59 PM (that's over 24 hours....) 24 was a rash desicion.
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Post by D2: Sweet & Sour Edition on Sept 9, 2009 23:58:54 GMT -5
I know our Doctor. I cannot reveal his name for obvious reasons, but assuming his role is that of a savior, I beg of your saving.
The information I have on Bruce needs some sort of deciphering. I was told she has a scepter and tiara. Almost as if this girl is royalty in town. What kind of royalty would we have in town?
And I've already given you my information on Al.
And assuming I live to see another day, I'll go snooping around yet again. How do I know this informant of mine is trustworthy? Simple. It's me. One of you MAFIA RAT BASTARDS STOLE MY DONKEY, AND I WANT HIM BACK!!!!
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Post by The Dom on Sept 10, 2009 0:37:14 GMT -5
You know what IF what Delirious is saying is true I know what Bruces role is, which means lynching him is a very bad idea.
Unvote His role would make sense for him to be quiet in terms of not wanting to spark a lynch against him but he has stayed too quiet and that worried me. Al as I said before has been right out there and that is sometimes a sign of scum as well. D2 has made a great case against him and I hope to hell we get this one right or we are pretty much screwed.
Vote:Al Bundy
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