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Post by MGH on Oct 20, 2009 18:07:43 GMT -5
Moving Cena to Smackdown now would be a huge mistake. No matter how much some of you guys hate the man, he IS THE MAN in WWE. Considering the lame duck network that SD is on now, WWE would be shooting itself in the foot if Cena went to the blue show. I agree that Randy needs the win, but Cena means more overrall, I'm sorry. If SD got on another network sure. Now? No. But in what way? He's going to sell merchandise no matter what. Kids will find his stuff, that's a given. What harm is it going to do? Raw's ratings are only being propped up by the guests hosts. That became clear a while back. PPV buy rates are taking nose dives, with or without Cena in a prominent Raw main event spot. If buy rates are going to drop, ratings are going to stay, and merchandise is going to keep selling, the only perspective left is the creative one, and in that case this move makes all the sense in the world.
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Post by Tapout on Oct 20, 2009 18:49:16 GMT -5
I agree that Randy needs the win, but Cena means more overrall, I'm sorry. If SD got on another network sure. Now? No. My point was that by bringing such a huge star to Smackdown, Vince is probably hoping that the show will be more attractive to networks who might pick it up. You may have already noticed that Vince himself has made a ton of personal appearances on Smackdown in recent months, which he never, ever did previously. I take that as Vince trying to drum up some legitimacy for the Blue show, again to make it attractive to other networks. You know, ones that are actually on TV for real.
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Post by Celgress on Oct 20, 2009 18:56:27 GMT -5
No, don't let him ruin Smackdown too!!!
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Post by parder on Oct 20, 2009 19:02:27 GMT -5
If Batista is going heel, I could see it happening in order to balance things out a bit more on Smackdown. It also takes some of the workload off Taker as a main event babyface. Doesn't help the staleness of Raw though, unless they really get going with elevating some people.
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Post by Mighty Mouth on Oct 20, 2009 19:48:18 GMT -5
I agree that Randy needs the win, but Cena means more overrall, I'm sorry. If SD got on another network sure. Now? No. My point was that by bringing such a huge star to Smackdown, Vince is probably hoping that the show will be more attractive to networks who might pick it up. I can understand this. While it makes sense on paper, I really think it could hurt them. A lot of casual fans only watch Raw or only watch Smackdown. If Cena goes to Friday's, most people would not even get to watch Smackdown. Even if they wanted to. If there was news that Smackdown was moving to a new/better network I say go for it. The blue show can barely crack a 2.0 rating most weeks. Is that where you want your number one guy? I don't.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2009 20:38:26 GMT -5
Cena is going to lose and help the Smackdown Team Win that match.
Well, Smackdown at least used to be a place to watch New Stars rise and conquer.
Least I still have ECW. Oddly enough if Cena leaves and DX keeps feuding with Legacy then RAW takes that spot
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2009 20:42:38 GMT -5
He will move to SD despite on how they have been building up moving to SD is worse then being fired or death for the past few weeks all because they'll do and HAVE to do Cena vs. Batista II
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Post by Azrael from Outerspace on Oct 20, 2009 20:57:08 GMT -5
Having Cena, Batista and Undertaker makes Smackdown look more appealing towards a new network who wants star power. I say he moves and it sets up the channel move.
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Post by Ringmaster on Oct 20, 2009 21:04:43 GMT -5
I wanted to vote no 50,000 times
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Post by skiller on Oct 20, 2009 22:07:01 GMT -5
No.
I had a seemingly solid reason as to why a week or two ago, but it escapes me at the moment.
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Post by Ryushinku on Oct 21, 2009 3:55:18 GMT -5
I don't know if he'll win or not, but I'd like to have Cena on SD!
So I went with what I preferred.
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Post by Ringmaster on Oct 21, 2009 4:36:19 GMT -5
I don't know if he'll win or not, but I'd like to have Cena on SD! So I went with what I preferred. hmmm batista vs cena i the mainevent title scene on SD ( for what will seem like decades) as punk vanishes into the midcard.....excuse me i have to vomit now
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Post by Jimichiro Likes Erick Rowan on Oct 21, 2009 6:20:54 GMT -5
On one hand, Cena on SD! wuld be refreshing.
On the other, I don't want Trips and/or HBK to be the top face(s) on Raw.
I'll just take the Luger route on this as well.
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Oct 21, 2009 6:28:07 GMT -5
Yeah he will, and losing to Triple H last night was the deal clencher for me. One thing from the old territories WWE still does with the brands from time to time is the losing on your way out deal. They did it with Benoit when he was heading to ECW, putting over Edge clean in a great match on that show if I recall. Cena is heading to SD, and while I still loath any and every thing about DX, that may make me watch Raw to see where they go with things. Moving Cena out of one of those guaranteed main event spots really shakes things up a little. Meanwhile with SD's creative team, assuming Vince isn't getting himself a load of say over there now, I think Cena could flourish again. The flaw in your synopsis is that WWE aslo has a a habit of the person losing on RAW before the PPV wins on the PPV itself. I believe he is staying on RAW. This past monday was only to play up the fact that it could indeed be his last match on RAW. Cena winning Monday wouldn't have given you the same vibe.
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on Oct 21, 2009 7:03:21 GMT -5
I don't know if he'll win or not, but I'd like to have Cena on SD! So I went with what I preferred. hmmm batista vs cena i the mainevent title scene on SD ( for what will seem like decades) as punk vanishes into the midcard.....excuse me i have to vomit now I'd be more worried for Morrison than Punk. Even if Cena goes over, Punk will still be top heel (seeing as Jericho is still tied into the tag division for the time being) and a feud with Cena could actually be very entertaining. Punk talking about how he is the real role model to children, that stuff writes itself. I think Batista would need to turn, but in any case that just means Punk is one of the top 2 heels on the SD roster. Morrison on the other hand may see his rise halted slightly. He'd be behind Taker, Cena, Batista (unless he turns) and probably Rey Mysterio. Although, if Taker takes some time off and Batista turns, they could easily elevate him above Rey and have him and have Morrison and Cena as the top 2 faces. In any case, it makes Censa for Cena to go over to SD. Feuds with Taker, Batista (which I think would be very good), Rey, Morrison, Punk, hell even someone like Ziggler could do really well. And it would also do wonders for Raw. It seems for years they've had this mentality that 'We can't take Orton/HHH/Cena off of Raw, they are the biggest stars and it's the A show!' but as long as they keep thinking that, they are going to keep putting on the same matches. Moving Cena is massively bold, but it will help both shows massively. Teddy Dibiase can turn and have a spot to go into, Kofi can be elevated, Swagger or Cody can become number 2 heels. Have Edge return at Mania to get the match with Jericho out of the way and then let him to back to Raw, and both shows then look really fresh with so many possibilities. It's taken time, but if WWE plays their cards right with this shake up, the young talent they have been nurturing for the last couple of years can really come into their own in the coming months. If they go through with moving Cena.
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Post by Big L on Oct 21, 2009 10:51:21 GMT -5
I hope so. I think getting him away from RAW will make him more interesting than he's been in quite some time. On SmackDown, he's got fresh opponents and some old opponents that he hasn't wrestled in quite some time. That's certainly better than RAW, where he just keeps cycling through the same few opponents. agreed!!
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Oct 21, 2009 14:39:46 GMT -5
It would make sense to put him on Smackdown again. He's been on Raw for how many years now? Smackdown's doing well with their main event scene, but Undertaker is a question mark, and Rey doesn't belong there. That leaves Batista and Punk, so they need another person in that main event scene that they can count on. And he'd be a pretty good fit, too. It's an 8:00 program on network TV, and he's really kid-friendly. If he loses at Bragging Rights, I'd expect Edge to be returning to Raw very soon. That'd be a great addition to the Raw main event scene.
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Post by AriadosMan on Oct 21, 2009 14:42:15 GMT -5
There is absolutely no way Cena will lose at Bragging Rights. WWE needs Cena as a Monday night ratings anchor much more while MNF is on than they need him on Smackdown (isn't Bats + Taker enough starpower?)
If they do move Cena, ratings will hit the skids.
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Post by D2: Sweet & Sour Edition on Oct 21, 2009 14:47:29 GMT -5
Is it wrong that I'd like him on ECW
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Post by MGH on Oct 21, 2009 16:37:08 GMT -5
If they do move Cena, ratings will hit the skids. Based on what logic? On a hunch? It has to be because it hasn't happened either time he's gotten injured and had to miss time. When he comes back, it sparks extra interest for a couple of weeks and the rating goes up, then it comes right back down to earth. When he leaves, they remain consistent within .1-.2 of what they were doing. This isn't meant as a Cena bashing post, it just reiterates what's already pretty well accepted. WWE doesn't have someone that you can say is a 100% full time draw for them. Cena, Hardy, and DX sell/sold the most merchandise, but they aren't popping ratings and obviously not PPV buys. They're all interchangeable pieces right now. I think you'd have to remove DX, Cena, Orton, and the guest hosts all at once to see the ratings tank.
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