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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Oct 23, 2009 2:01:32 GMT -5
Triple H sleeps blanketless because he won't even let his bed sheets cover him for three seconds
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2009 2:14:55 GMT -5
Triple H sleeps blanketless because he won't even let his bed sheets cover him for three seconds He doesn't let Steph go on top for 3 seconds! |
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Oct 23, 2009 2:23:10 GMT -5
Triple H sleeps blanketless because he won't even let his bed sheets cover him for three seconds He doesn't let Steph go on top for 3 seconds! Steph asked HHH to put the new dishes over the old china in the cabinet. HHH replied "Those new dishes haven't done anything to be put over china. Who do they think they are X-Pac." Then HHH smashed them with the Sledge hammer he had hid under the sofa. |
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Post by baerrtt on Oct 23, 2009 11:14:41 GMT -5
Basically Triple H is the strongest booked character of the past decade and is still protected, I'd love for someone to tell me what kind of sense that makes. So that when they book him to lose it actually means something. The loss to Benoit at WM20 was special precisely because of how protected he was when they made him the World Heavyweight Champion on RAW. The comparisons to Flair are off because, as I've said before imo, the more Ric jobbed or was made to look weak the less prestigious it actually became to 'beat the man'. I myself, for example, never understood why Roddy Piper (draw or not) was so well protected upon his return in '89 despite not being in any World title programs over the next few years. Couldn't he have done a job to Rick Rude or Bad News Brown rather than harming their credibility with feuds that humiliated them? And yet when he jobbed to Bret Hart at WM8 ,I watched the PPV live, I was as shocked as hell simply because I wans't expecting it. And in the long run it meant something that Bret had defeated a guy who had rarely been pinned during his WWF tenure. |
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Post by angryfan on Oct 23, 2009 11:28:41 GMT -5
Basically Triple H is the strongest booked character of the past decade and is still protected, I'd love for someone to tell me what kind of sense that makes. So that when they book him to lose it actually means something. The loss to Benoit at WM20 was special precisely because of how protected he was when they made him the World Heavyweight Champion on RAW. The comparisons to Flair are off because, as I've said before imo, the more Ric jobbed or was made to look weak the less prestigious it actually became to 'beat the man'. So...by that standard, a person must be protected on their way up so tha tthey look credible when they get there. Then they must be protected until they are established as "the man", at which point they must be protected so that any loss will be effective in getting someone else over, at which point the focus will go back to protecting the guy that just jobbed so that he can regain any credibility he lost by doing the job in the first place. This worked in the 80's, I'll grant you that, because the "protected guy" wasn't on TV every single week, sometimes two or three times, getting massive face time. He was a "special attraction" and, thus, his appearances, since they were rare, were treated as important events. This doesn't happen now, since we see the top guys all the time. Trips is a talented guy, there is no denying that. He can work, he can sell, and he can tell a damn good story if he wants to. These are all reasons why he has remained over, his marraige notwithstanding. However, since you mentioned Trips puttiing Benoit over as huge, which it was for the moment, let's look at the aftermath to see what happened. When Trips lost, did the focus shift to protecting the new champ (Benoit) so that he looked like a dominant, worthy champion? Nope, it shifted to Trips so that he could be built back up to the "top guy" spot. Same with Jericho's run. Same with Orton's run. You can say all three runs were blah, but the reason for that was because they were all cast as simply there rather than "special", which the champ should always be. It was as if the focus went from "Can anyone beat Trips" to "Someone beat Trips, now here's Trips to remind you that he's still that damn good. Also appearing, the guy who beat Trips will appear at some point, possibly to do something". Orton took years to recover, same with Jericho which also required him leaving for a few years. And whenever their paths cross with Trips, viewers are reminded, again, that Trips is still better than them. He is still protected, while guys who are in the title picture, one of whom is the freaking belt holder, are not at the level of the guy they beat. In other words, they're flukes. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2009 11:41:37 GMT -5
HHH is extremely well protected there is no doubt about that but even if the only people he put over in the last while are Hardy and Batista look at what its done for their careers. after Batista won he was the most over face and probably one of the most entertaining characters then and once Hardy won it really allowed him to take that next step into the main event scene.
whenever HHH loses its a big deal... could it happen more often? yes. would it allow more people to get over? yes. It wouldn't be as big a deal if he did it more often but i still think he should as it is kinda rediculous
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Post by baerrtt on Oct 23, 2009 12:23:24 GMT -5
So that when they book him to lose it actually means something. The loss to Benoit at WM20 was special precisely because of how protected he was when they made him the World Heavyweight Champion on RAW. The comparisons to Flair are off because, as I've said before imo, the more Ric jobbed or was made to look weak the less prestigious it actually became to 'beat the man'. So...by that standard, a person must be protected on their way up so tha tthey look credible when they get there. Then they must be protected until they are established as "the man", at which point they must be protected so that any loss will be effective in getting someone else over, at which point the focus will go back to protecting the guy that just jobbed so that he can regain any credibility he lost by doing the job in the first place. This worked in the 80's, I'll grant you that, because the "protected guy" wasn't on TV every single week, sometimes two or three times, getting massive face time. He was a "special attraction" and, thus, his appearances, since they were rare, were treated as important events. This doesn't happen now, since we see the top guys all the time. Trips is a talented guy, there is no denying that. He can work, he can sell, and he can tell a damn good story if he wants to. These are all reasons why he has remained over, his marraige notwithstanding. However, since you mentioned Trips puttiing Benoit over as huge, which it was for the moment, let's look at the aftermath to see what happened. When Trips lost, did the focus shift to protecting the new champ (Benoit) so that he looked like a dominant, worthy champion? Nope, it shifted to Trips so that he could be built back up to the "top guy" spot. Same with Jericho's run. Same with Orton's run. You can say all three runs were blah, but the reason for that was because they were all cast as simply there rather than "special", which the champ should always be. It was as if the focus went from "Can anyone beat Trips" to "Someone beat Trips, now here's Trips to remind you that he's still that damn good. Also appearing, the guy who beat Trips will appear at some point, possibly to do something". Orton took years to recover, same with Jericho which also required him leaving for a few years. And whenever their paths cross with Trips, viewers are reminded, again, that Trips is still better than them. He is still protected, while guys who are in the title picture, one of whom is the freaking belt holder, are not at the level of the guy they beat. In other words, they're flukes. My overall point is that Vince is the ultimate decision maker when it comes to the issue of who his MAIN EVENTERS are going to lose to and whilst I've found the super protection aspect tiring in some cases over the years (why I mentioned Piper) this idea, that inspires such debate on very IWC messageboard known to man, that Trips on purpose refuses to put ppl over is something I find a tad ridicolous at times. If management had seriously wanted him to job to Jericho, RVD, Booker T or Kane for example he would have done it whether he liked it or not. |
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Post by Jay Carroll on Oct 23, 2009 12:23:28 GMT -5
I got 82 out of 92 on the HHH Sporkle. What the hell lmao
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