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Post by Youngie on Oct 7, 2009 12:17:08 GMT -5
WCW Fall Brawl '93
What a pointless angle. What was in the bag?
Kwan's "selling" is particularly hilarious.
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Post by Blindkarevik on Oct 7, 2009 12:53:32 GMT -5
See, realistically, this did make sense. Jack wanted revenge on Vader, but Harley Race did the classic heel manager thing of saying, "You can't have Vader, you can have Yoshi Kwan though. He'll tear you a part so Vader won't have to." So Jack goes through Kwan to finally get to Vader, building anticipation for that encounter all along the way.
Unfortunately, by this point, WCW didn't care about the Jack/Vader feud, put nothing into it, and therefore it just became a couple random matches to re-introduce Jack.
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Post by JerryvonKramer on Oct 7, 2009 13:08:45 GMT -5
Having just watched through the PPVs of this era, I've got to say that the booking was very very strange.
They went to the trouble of building a feud for that long, introduced Yoshi Kwan, even had Jack and Vader TAG TOGETHER at Battlebowl, but then never gave Cactus the blow-off match.
Despite the fact that Schiavone still faithfully retold the history at Battlebowl twice.
Something tells me that it wasn't planned that way.
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Post by mysterydriver on Oct 7, 2009 14:54:56 GMT -5
The ending to that match fell completely apart.
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Post by MyndSkape: A Poor Man's Virgil on Oct 7, 2009 16:18:02 GMT -5
I fondly remember this "angle" after the whole Lost In Cleveland business (for which, anyway, I never seen Foley hanging out around town during that time).
But the most pointless thing is trying to buy Chris Champion as either Asian, or knowledgeable in ANY martial arts.
His stereotypical Asian music was boss though!
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Oct 7, 2009 16:24:19 GMT -5
Are there any pics of Chris Champion before this gimmick? I only know him from his WCW stint.
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Post by romafan87 on Oct 7, 2009 18:01:18 GMT -5
Having just watched through the PPVs of this era, I've got to say that the booking was very very strange. They went to the trouble of building a feud for that long, introduced Yoshi Kwan, even had Jack and Vader TAG TOGETHER at Battlebowl, but then never gave Cactus the blow-off match. Despite the fact that Schiavone still faithfully retold the history at Battlebowl twice. Something tells me that it wasn't planned that way. Blow off match was Havok '93. The reason they kept it simmering into November was because they didn't want to tip their hand at all involving the upcoming Ric Flair match. Also, Jack was never meant to be in that position, neither was Flair. Sid was supposed to win the belt as a babyface at Starcade. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 7, 2009 18:02:51 GMT -5
What a pointless angle. What was in the bag? A sack of particularly potent weed. |
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Post by mysterydriver on Oct 7, 2009 18:06:45 GMT -5
Are there any pics of Chris Champion before this gimmick? I only know him from his WCW stint. Here's his MySpace: www.myspace.com/53558598Has plenty of pictures of him before, during, and after Yoshi Kwan. |
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Post by JerryvonKramer on Oct 7, 2009 18:10:01 GMT -5
Having just watched through the PPVs of this era, I've got to say that the booking was very very strange. They went to the trouble of building a feud for that long, introduced Yoshi Kwan, even had Jack and Vader TAG TOGETHER at Battlebowl, but then never gave Cactus the blow-off match. Despite the fact that Schiavone still faithfully retold the history at Battlebowl twice. Something tells me that it wasn't planned that way. Blow off match was Havok '93. The reason they kept it simmering into November was because they didn't want to tip their hand at all involving the upcoming Ric Flair match. Also, Jack was never meant to be in that position, neither was Flair. Sid was supposed to win the belt as a babyface at Starcade. Oh of course, how did I forget about that? A really good match too. For some reason, I thought that had already happened -- got the events mixed up in my head, but then it is confusing cos it was such a long and complex angle. |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Oct 7, 2009 18:53:59 GMT -5
Are there any pics of Chris Champion before this gimmick? I only know him from his WCW stint. Here's his MySpace: www.myspace.com/53558598Has plenty of pictures of him before, during, and after Yoshi Kwan. Thanks, weird for me to see him not in the Yoshi Kwan gimmick. Weird but I liked the gimmick. |
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Oct 8, 2009 23:30:26 GMT -5
Yoshi's Kwan's selling of Cactus Jack's offense is ludicrously entertaining. Not everyday you see such overselling of a BACK RAKE.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Oct 10, 2009 5:19:57 GMT -5
is this the guy who Davey Boy use to mess with by taking his hat and doing some business in it?
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