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Post by Stu on Nov 8, 2009 19:46:02 GMT -5
I'm torn when it comes to King of the Hill. Good or bad?
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Post by bob on Nov 8, 2009 20:47:16 GMT -5
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Post by Free Hat on Nov 8, 2009 21:12:17 GMT -5
I'm a huge fan of Red Dwarf, but their continuity is pretty spotty. Wasn't everyone but Rimmer (and the Grim Reaper) dead at the end of Series VIII? What happened between that and Back To Earth? No, the vending machine explained that they all jumped to another dimension before Rimmer came back with the formula. That's why Rimmer was alone on the ship at the end. According to Back to Earth, the cliffhanger ending was resolved in the fictional Series IX (which will never be made). Overall I actually thought Red Dwarf's continuity was better than most Sci.fi shows. It certainly kicks the shit out of Star Trek anyway (Voyager and Enterprise especially)
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Post by rrm15 on Nov 8, 2009 21:12:35 GMT -5
The last season of LOST had some really lazy continuity problems. {Spoiler}Everyone calling Locke Jeremy Bentham even though Locke never once called himself that, Ethan apparently being in his late 20's, Russo's story happening totally differently than what she told Sayid, etc.
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Nov 8, 2009 21:45:09 GMT -5
Passions was the worst, given that, according to the show, the teenage Paloma was older than the law school graduate Ethan. This is because Kathyrn and Martin left before Julian got married, but when Palmoa was a infant.
I elaborate on the other board, but Star Trek is pretty good, for having over 30 years of material, three production teams, and multiple executive producers. I mean, think how many reboots DC and Marvel have had. Think about how many inconsistancies exist in the Tolkien Legendarium. More material, more inconsistancies.
I think Donna had two younger sisters in the first season of That 70s Show that were never addressed. Jackie's mother went from being a blonde heavy set Real Estate Agent to being Brooke Shields. And Mr. Kelso was much smarter than either of his sons.
Oh, and half of television is actually an autistic kid's daydream anyways.
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Post by fw91 on Nov 8, 2009 22:35:45 GMT -5
Spongebob sometimes brings it up as a joke, but there have to be a good dozen stories of where exactly the Krabby Patty formula originated, along with how long the Krusty Krab has been open. And its like the movie never happened. What happened to the Krusty Krab 2?
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Post by Mike Strike on Nov 8, 2009 23:54:29 GMT -5
Power Rangers is a pretty obvious one given each season is independent. But there's been some exceptionally bad cases: -Lost Galaxy started a number of years after In Space yet the subsequent seasons set in the present pretty much retconned it to the year it aired. This creates a lot of questions of how the Terra Venture got proposed, approved & built in a matter of months. -The swansong to the Fox Kids era, Forever Red saw 10 red rangers united despite at least 3 of them not having their powers anymore. Also Bulk & Skull's return to Earth, the existance of Machine Empire survivors & that they looked like Beetleborgs. -Power Rangers being called just a comic book in Ninja Storm. The next year the NS cast crossover with a cast that included 1 of the original Mighty Morphins -Rita Repulsa in the final of Mytic Force. WTF?! I mean it was an interesting idea to rewrite the guest appearance of her japanese actress but damn they didn't even try to explain how it made sense. -Similarly Thrax, the son of Zedd & Rita appearing the following year. Fans went nuts trying to make sense of the timeline of his birth (which again, went unexplained). -The last season RPM just plain throws continuinty to the wind yet still has a villain who may or may not be the bad guy from Forever Red.
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Nov 8, 2009 23:56:58 GMT -5
Saved By The Bell was so ridiculous that I'm still amazed they had no one working continuity in the writer's room.
There's the entire debacle of Zack dating Lisa and then it being ignored the next episode, there's the last season with Kelly and Jessie half the time and Tori the other half (was an alternate universe bleeding into Bayside High?), there's the fact that no one went to the college they said they were going to...
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Nov 9, 2009 0:00:50 GMT -5
No one ever explained what happened to Richie Cunningham's older brother in "Happy Days", did they?
Come to think of it, no one ever explained what happened to Spearchucker Jones in "M*A*S*H", either.
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Post by silentrage on Nov 9, 2009 0:15:03 GMT -5
-Power Rangers being called just a comic book in Ninja Storm. The next year the NS cast crossover with a cast that included 1 of the original Mighty Morphins When did they say that about it being a comic?!? And Adam coming back made sense because Sentinel Knight restored his powers. (Which makes him more powerful than Zordon. Which is dumb, I must admit.) -Rita Repulsa in the final of Mytic Force. WTF?! I mean it was an interesting idea to rewrite the guest appearance of her japanese actress but damn they didn't even try to explain how it made sense. Remember in Countdown to Destruction when Rita and Zedd were turned good? Never was it even hinted at that she lost her powers. I think it makes complete sense. -The last season RPM just plain throws continuinty to the wind yet still has a villain who may or may not be the bad guy from Forever Red. Unless there is some convoluted explanation on Venjix and Venjix being one in the same, they are not. Dr K created Venjix, so they basically just threw that idea out the window.
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Post by gamblore on Nov 9, 2009 0:15:48 GMT -5
The Simpsons shouldn't count because breaking continuity was always part of the joke, even during the earliest seasons. How many "lifelong dreams" has Homer had? How many explanations have been given for his baldness? The Krusty the Clown Show is sometimes an afternoon kids show, sometimes a sketch comedy show, and sometimes a late night talk show. Moleman has frequently died. In one episode Burns was revealed to have abandoned his parents to live with a heartless millionaire, despite other episodes stating that he was born into his wealth and was raised by his biological family. On the DVD commentaries, the creators and writers freely admit that they always used the elastic continuity concept.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2009 0:59:18 GMT -5
No one ever explained what happened to Richie Cunningham's older brother in "Happy Days", did they? Come to think of it, no one ever explained what happened to Spearchucker Jones in "M*A*S*H", either. Chalk "Seven" from "Married with Children" up on this list as well...
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Nov 9, 2009 1:33:00 GMT -5
I always thought the "missing sibling" thing was the laziest out for a writer. You don't like a character? Write him or her out, don't pretend like they never existed. Thankfully, this sort of crap doesn't go on much anymore.
Family Matters was really rough in this regard. Besides Judy Winslow vanishing (which I like to attribute as a result of Carl and Steve mucking up the timeline), there were the following continuity glitches:
-In Perfect Strangers, the Winslows move into Larry and Balki's apartment building. When they're spun-off into Family Matters, they have a house. Okay, fine. But then in later seasons, we flash back and discover that they've been living there since the '70s.
-Urkel started off as a random kid in Laura's school whom Carl has never met before. Then when he becomes popular, bam! He's always been their next door neighbor.
-The whole last season was one continuity error after another, including the visual continuity gaffes of Mark-Lynn Baker (Larry Appleton from Perfect Strangers) playing an entirely different character, and then Harriet herself getting recasted. Yeah, changing actors isn't technically a continuity error, but it's pretty bad when you recast the character your show initially spun-off with.
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Post by The Charismatic Enabeler on Nov 9, 2009 1:33:54 GMT -5
Happy Days. The Fonz had alot of family members for a guy who didn't have any family. Not to mention the disappearing Chuck.
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Nov 9, 2009 1:36:14 GMT -5
Happy Days got really bad with its own timeline. Why did Scott Baio have feathered hair if it was supposed to be the early '60s? Was Wisconsin just ten years ahead of everyone else?
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Post by Impact Zone's #1 DUMMY...YEAH on Nov 9, 2009 4:31:26 GMT -5
M*A*S*H as much as I love it (and I REALLY love it) has some issues. Radar originally, while still a simple country boy, indulges his vices with a drink either from the still or Henry's cabinet and a cigar, and is fairly streetwise. He also has a fiance who sends him a 'Dear John' recording, and is very good at using his niave appearance to his advantage with the nurses. As the show went on he became more and more innocent and eventually teetotal and inept with women. He also loses his ability to hear the choppers a few seconds before everybody else. It was Klinger who received the Dear John letter, not Radar. I believe Radar's "first love" was either: one of the nurses at the 4077th or the woman he met while returning from R&R in the episode where he was discharged. And I don't recall him losing his ability to hear the choppers; he was able to do that even up until to when he was leaving.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2009 4:44:32 GMT -5
Transformer G1. I didn't watch the recent series much, but I do know they were presented to kids as continuations, even though they were originally conceived to be different universes. That made for some awkward moments Transformers G1 actually doesn't have as many as people think. The constructicons origins are snorked up, but otherwise all of G1, Beast Wars, and Beast Machines fits together.Even the Japanese shows fit (if you discount The Rebirth). RID, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, and Animated were NOT G1. They have never been presented as continuations of it to the best of my knowledge. As for a show with bad continuity, My Name Is Earl. Earl is allergic to cats, then Randy is the one allergic to cats. Then, in other episodes, neither has an allergic reaction when a cat is around. Also, first Randy was there when Earl met Joy, then later he wasn't.
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Post by Kroot bringing Justice on Nov 9, 2009 5:40:13 GMT -5
A big one is HOW THE f*** Vybertron is a direct sequal to Energon. And a big one in Energon, WHY THE HELL did no one try to reason with Starscream? The guy gave up his life to reveal that unicron could not be trusted.
f*** now that I think about it the Cons for the most part were all pretty much derailed. Demolisher was apprantley evil the whole damn time and never actually had any compassion, Megatron for some reason goes back on what he said before he died in the end of Armada, Alexis and the gang seem to cease existing *Alexis not showing up was really stupid seeing how Screamer was back*, and Scorponok as a whole. Gah, Energon was terrible, thankfully Cybertron was much better, though we got stuck with the same Starscream we all ways get.
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Nov 9, 2009 5:52:29 GMT -5
M*A*S*H as much as I love it (and I REALLY love it) has some issues. Radar originally, while still a simple country boy, indulges his vices with a drink either from the still or Henry's cabinet and a cigar, and is fairly streetwise. He also has a fiance who sends him a 'Dear John' recording, and is very good at using his niave appearance to his advantage with the nurses. As the show went on he became more and more innocent and eventually teetotal and inept with women. He also loses his ability to hear the choppers a few seconds before everybody else. It was Klinger who received the Dear John letter, not Radar. I believe Radar's "first love" was either: one of the nurses at the 4077th or the woman he met while returning from R&R in the episode where he was discharged. And I don't recall him losing his ability to hear the choppers; he was able to do that even up until to when he was leaving. Klinger's Dear John comes much later, he marries Laverne over the radio in the second (?) series. Radar gets a Dear John recording from his fiance in the first series. She records it in a 'make your own CD booth' and sends it to him.
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Post by Red Lion on Nov 9, 2009 6:47:15 GMT -5
The Simpsons shouldn't count because breaking continuity was always part of the joke, even during the earliest seasons. How many "lifelong dreams" has Homer had? How many explanations have been given for his baldness? The Krusty the Clown Show is sometimes an afternoon kids show, sometimes a sketch comedy show, and sometimes a late night talk show. Moleman has frequently died. In one episode Burns was revealed to have abandoned his parents to live with a heartless millionaire, despite other episodes stating that he was born into his wealth and was raised by his biological family. On the DVD commentaries, the creators and writers freely admit that they always used the elastic continuity concept. While I agree, the later episodes are damn near raping continuity, a key example being the 90s episode.
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