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Post by strykerdarksilence on Nov 12, 2009 11:04:03 GMT -5
You're right. Futurama alway stays 1000 years in the future. In the recent movies from '07-'09 Fry mentions that he has been in the future for 8 years and it is also stated that it is the year 3008. They do a really good job with that. Not only that, they planned several seasons into the future with some of their plot points, so all the big plot points are foreshadowed. It really is quite astounding. {Spoiler}The episode where Fry became his own grandpa was foreshadowed in a previous season episode, where Fry's brother Yancy is being told that the family name was passed from his Grandfather's grandfather, to his grandfather's father, to his dad, to him. His grandfather is left out, because that's Fry. {Spoiler}In the fourth season, Nibbler was revealed to be responsible (sort of) of Fry being in the future. In the pilot, four years before the episode showing that aired and before he was introduced to the series, his shadow appears on the wall in the room where Fry's frozen. All these little things that nobody would notice they actually covered for. It is pretty impressive. Also {Spoiler}On their first journey into the mutant world in the sewers, when they gather round to hear the tale of 'El Chupa Nibre', Leela's parents are in the crowd.
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Post by Matt Dunn on Nov 16, 2009 17:23:06 GMT -5
Power Rangers is a pretty obvious one given each season is independent. But there's been some exceptionally bad cases: -Lost Galaxy started a number of years after In Space yet the subsequent seasons set in the present pretty much retconned it to the year it aired. This creates a lot of questions of how the Terra Venture got proposed, approved & built in a matter of months. -The swansong to the Fox Kids era, Forever Red saw 10 red rangers united despite at least 3 of them not having their powers anymore. Also Bulk & Skull's return to Earth, the existance of Machine Empire survivors & that they looked like Beetleborgs. -Power Rangers being called just a comic book in Ninja Storm. The next year the NS cast crossover with a cast that included 1 of the original Mighty Morphins -Rita Repulsa in the final of Mytic Force. WTF?! I mean it was an interesting idea to rewrite the guest appearance of her japanese actress but damn they didn't even try to explain how it made sense. -Similarly Thrax, the son of Zedd & Rita appearing the following year. Fans went nuts trying to make sense of the timeline of his birth (which again, went unexplained). -The last season RPM just plain throws continuinty to the wind yet still has a villain who may or may not be the bad guy from Forever Red. Power Rangers Producer Tony Oliver has been quoted as saying "Continuity is for beginners."
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Post by Matt Dunn on Nov 16, 2009 17:28:16 GMT -5
While I agree, the later episodes are damn near raping continuity, a key example being the 90s episode. Everyone harps on the 90s episode for raping continuity, but Homer's Barbershop Quartet did the exact same thing, and it's considered a classic episode. The entire ending of the episode was dedicated to lampshading this. It's also a matter of necessity. The longer the show runs, they have to either bump forward the dates or make Bart 31. I'm glad they went with the former. Then there's that issue of Homer and Marge being teenage parents. There was some mention of it on "Daily Show" where Matt Groening said that Homer and Marge were teenagers when they had Bart. Jon Stewart then mentioned Homer was 38 or so and Bart was 10 so that wouldn't match up. That was the last this was mentioned. This was when they were promoting the movie. This could probably be found on youtube if my recollection seems fuzzy. Curiously, I seem to remember them showing a 20-something Marge giving birth to Bart in an episode from the 90s.
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Nov 16, 2009 19:51:53 GMT -5
Re: Homer: Yeah, the current Simpson famly's orgin story is nonsensical.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Nov 16, 2009 19:55:49 GMT -5
Everyone harps on the 90s episode for raping continuity, but Homer's Barbershop Quartet did the exact same thing, and it's considered a classic episode. The entire ending of the episode was dedicated to lampshading this. It's also a matter of necessity. The longer the show runs, they have to either bump forward the dates or make Bart 31. I'm glad they went with the former. Then there's that issue of Homer and Marge being teenage parents. There was some mention of it on "Daily Show" where Matt Groening said that Homer and Marge were teenagers when they had Bart. Jon Stewart then mentioned Homer was 38 or so and Bart was 10 so that wouldn't match up. That was the last this was mentioned. This was when they were promoting the movie. This could probably be found on youtube if my recollection seems fuzzy. Curiously, I seem to remember them showing a 20-something Marge giving birth to Bart in an episode from the 90s. Perhaps that was their backstory from their shorts on the Tracy Ullman show that was changed for their own series?
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Nov 16, 2009 19:56:38 GMT -5
Tim Russ playing different roles withing the same Star Trek Universe:
Devor on ST:TNG A scrub on the bridge during ST: Generations T'Kar on ST: DS9 Tuvok on ST: Voyager
And he tried out for the role of Geordi LaForge!
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Post by I Like Your Poetry on Nov 17, 2009 17:22:13 GMT -5
Saved By The Bell was so ridiculous that I'm still amazed they had no one working continuity in the writer's room. There's the entire debacle of Zack dating Lisa and then it being ignored the next episode, there's the last season with Kelly and Jessie half the time and Tori the other half (was an alternate universe bleeding into Bayside High?), there's the fact that no one went to the college they said they were going to... Not to mention: - Zack's father was played by two guys. Which is fine if you couldn't cast one for the other..but one of them had a beard (and gray hair I believe) while the other had dark hair and no facial hair. And they had two different names. -That two part episode when Zack took in the two homeless people but they never mentioned it again. -Slater's sister who showed up, got permission to date Zack...and she was never seen again. -Both Zack and Kelly references siblings in earlier seasons who disappeared, and both were suddenly only children. And there's many, many more here: forum.bodybuilding.com/archive/index.php/t-110105971.htmlSBTB has this won by a landslide.
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Post by I Like Your Poetry on Nov 17, 2009 17:25:10 GMT -5
[ As for a show with bad continuity, My Name Is Earl. Earl is allergic to cats, then Randy is the one allergic to cats. Then, in other episodes, neither has an allergic reaction when a cat is around. Also, first Randy was there when Earl met Joy, then later he wasn't. The show is an absolute mess post-season 2. I love Jason Lee, but maybe the show getting cancelled wasn't such an atrocity.
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Nov 17, 2009 18:12:16 GMT -5
Re: Simpsons. It was a mistake. The way the show works, storywise, is the Homer and Marge meet in High School, and some time latter, Marge gets pregeant. So Matt may have meant for it to be a teenage pregancy, but it is inconsistent with the show's chronology, especially Homer being in his late 30s. They pretty much admit that there is about ten years of missing time, which the 90s episode was meant to fill in. I don't really care about the 90s episode quality. I can mentally place everyone in 70s clothing. The real problem with that episode is, that the shock and realism of having an cartoon character have a shotgun wedding passed years ago.
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