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Post by stoneroger on Nov 20, 2009 18:12:21 GMT -5
I feel about this movie the same way Shane Douglas feels about Hulk Hogan. It sucked then, and it sucks now.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Nov 20, 2009 18:16:58 GMT -5
My favorite parts of the movie were the humorous interjections...like the soap-making and the whole IKEA theme.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2009 18:49:53 GMT -5
Its funny 10 years later watching talk about how the current generation has no wars, no great depression, and the philosophy that a society of overwrought commercialization has led to an era of men emasculated feeling numb and without real feeling. I wonder what Tyler Durden would think of the world of 2009. UFC and MMA is very popular right now and hundreds of Fight Clubs were created all across the world after a certain movie so better?
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Post by The OP on Nov 20, 2009 19:37:14 GMT -5
I just saw it once in the theater when it came out. I thought it was pretty good. I didn't feel like I needed to see it again neccessarily. I didn't really like the ending, it sorta felt like a copout to me. It wasn't as bad as a "then the guy wakes up and it was all a dream" type of ending, but was sort of in that same direction for me if that makes any sense.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Nov 20, 2009 20:01:48 GMT -5
Its funny 10 years later watching talk about how the current generation has no wars, no great depression, and the philosophy that a society of overwrought commercialization has led to an era of men emasculated feeling numb and without real feeling. I wonder what Tyler Durden would think of the world of 2009. UFC and MMA is very popular right now and hundreds of Fight Clubs were created all across the world after a certain movie so better? The fighting wasn't the point, IMO. I'm actually surprised there wasn't an explosion of "Project Mayhem" copycats after the movie got popular.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Nov 20, 2009 20:06:21 GMT -5
Personally: My favorite movie of all time.
Seriously. Whenever ever I'm asked 'Favorite Movie?' Fight Club is always my answer. Just love everything about it: The story, the atmosphere, the soundtrack, the characters and the acting.
I can see why people hate it. But at least they did not go on live TV and spoil the ending during the films general release because they personally did not like the film. Sounds like something a c**t would do.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Nov 20, 2009 20:12:40 GMT -5
Still haven't seen it.
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Post by H-Fist on Nov 20, 2009 20:33:58 GMT -5
Another thing, also: I actually got at the time that it was dark comedy. I've found that a lot of the people who hate it missed out on/didn't like the comedy of it. Without the dark comedy, it wouldn't have been as good.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2009 20:35:50 GMT -5
UFC and MMA is very popular right now and hundreds of Fight Clubs were created all across the world after a certain movie so better? The fighting wasn't the point, IMO. I'm actually surprised there wasn't an explosion of "Project Mayhem" copycats after the movie got popular. I think I remember on how they caught some people trying to create Project Mayhem and they had bunch of dynamite and other explosions in their basement.
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Post by toddpolt on Nov 20, 2009 21:04:50 GMT -5
You know because the movie was such aimed for the disgruntled Gen X (and in retrospect, disgruntled Gen Y as well) I honestly thought that in post 9/11 and Dubya America, the movie would become less relevant and more a 1990s time capsule like A Clockwork Orange became for the late 60s/early 70s.
So I watched it again, and I realized its still very much relevant.
I mean the dehumanizing/comforing nature of our culture's further commercialization and materialism, that problem is still there. Arguably its gotten worse. More men feel helpless and even "threatened" because they don't have any control of history for their generation, much less their own fates.
We are so very cynical, especially living in the epoch's (especially 1990s) government and corporations ruled by the former flower power children who grew up and sold out. Thats why that generation of film critics (among other reasons) hated hate hated Fight Club. Because it reminded them of that little fact.
Also the movie was incredibly well crafted, very ambitious, memorable sequences, great acting, and very funny too. Based off a terrific book too.
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Post by toddpolt on Nov 20, 2009 21:44:00 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2009 22:42:45 GMT -5
The book's better imo. I don't think the film expresses well enough Tyler's hypocrisy in fashioning Fight Club after railing against Commercial America, which I felt was one of the big points in the book.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Nov 20, 2009 23:08:41 GMT -5
Some facts and figures about this movie: Budget: US $74 Million Gross Revenue: US $ 301 Million approx (World Wide) IMDB rating: 8.8 out of 10 - Ranks at #18 in the Top 250 movies Rotten Tomatoes T Meter Rating: 80% (certified fresh) --------------------------------------- Trivia (from imdb.com): Author Chuck Palahniuk has stated that he found the film to be an improvement on his novel. (citation needed)
Although he refused to smoke in Rounders (1998) (his character played poker for cigarettes, but did not smoke), Edward Norton agreed to smoke for this film.
In the short scene when Brad Pitt and Edward Norton are drunk and hitting golf balls, they really are drunk, and the golf balls are sailing directly into the side of the catering truck.
Cameo: [Edward Kowalczyk] Member of the band Live plays the waiter who serves the Narrator and Marla with the line, "Sir, anything you want is free of charge, sir."
Edward Norton lost 17-20 pounds for this role after having to beef up tremendously for his role as a Neo-Nazi skinhead in American History X (1998). Norton achieved this form by running, taking vitamins and just ignoring the on-set catering.
When a Fight Club member sprays the priest with a hose, the camera briefly shakes. This happens because the cameraman couldn't keep himself from laughing.
Prior to filming, makeup artist Julie Pearce studied UFC bouts to see what kind of makeup effects were needed for the film, as she had never done "realistic fight makeup" before.
After director David Fincher was finished editing the film, the studio executives were baffled by the piece, and unsure how to market it. Fincher had wanted a highly unique marketing campaign which would mirror the film's theme of anti-commercialism, but already worried about the possible backlash against the film, the Fox executives refused to go ahead with Fincher's idea (two of Fincher's trailers can be found on the DVD in the 'Internet Spots' section). Instead, a campaign was launched which was built largely upon the presence of Brad Pitt in the film, as well as concentrating on the fighting (which plays a minor role in the actual film itself). The campaign was highly criticized as giving the impression that the film was basically just about men beating each other up, completely ignoring the comic and satiric elements of the narrative, and for marketing the film to the wrong audience. David Fincher was particularly incensed when he saw ads for the film during WWE and UFC programming.
In an infamous incident, the Friday that the film was released theatrically in the United States, Rosie O'Donnell appeared on her TV show and revealed that she had seen the film earlier in the week, and had been unable to sleep ever since. She then proceeded to give away the twist ending of the film and urged all of her viewers to avoid the movie at all costs. Edward Norton, Brad Pitt and David Fincher discuss this incident on their DVD commentary track, with Pitt calling 'O'Donnell's actions "unforgivable".
Rupert Murdoch despised the project and clashed with then-studio head Bill Mechanic over putting it into production. The film's disappointing box office returns relative to cost were a major reason for Mechanic's departure from this job not long after its release.
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Post by toddpolt on Nov 20, 2009 23:08:55 GMT -5
The book's better imo. I don't think the film expresses well enough Tyler's hypocrisy in fashioning Fight Club after railing against Commercial America, which I felt was one of the big points in the book. I thought the point was made. I mean he attracts these people because of his message of how they had become sheep and doing whatever Pepsi or Calvin Klein had told them. And what do those fans do? DO EXACTLY WHAT TYLER SAYS. That said, the book had two great things over the movie. {Spoiler}
(1) "I want your abortion." (2) the scene with Marla's Mom's fat in the fridge.
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Post by Gummydavidson on Nov 21, 2009 0:01:24 GMT -5
Great movie, never get sick of seeing it
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 21, 2009 0:07:43 GMT -5
One of my favorites, but so many either champion to the moon unnecessarily or seem to miss the point entirely. But yeah, in my top ten favorite films
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Post by Hulk With A Mustache on Nov 21, 2009 0:36:48 GMT -5
Here are some nice quotes from Tyler Durden:
The first rule of Fight Club is: you do not talk about Fight Club. The second rule of Fight Club is: you do NOT talk about Fight Club. Third rule of Fight Club: someone yells stop, goes limp, taps out, the fight is over. Fourth rule: only two guys to a fight. Fifth rule: one fight at a time, fellas. Sixth rule: no shirts, no shoes. Seventh rule: fights will go on as long as they have to. And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first night at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Man, I see in Fight Club the strongest and smartest men who've ever lived. I see all this potential, and I see it squandered. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables — slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our great war is a spiritual war. Our great depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars, but we won't. We're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.
In the world I see -- you're stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You will wear leather clothes that last you the rest of your life. You will climb the wrist thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. You will see tiny figures pounding corn and laying strips of venison on the empty car pool lane of an abandoned superhighway.
It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything.
You are not your job. You're not how much money you have in the bank. You're not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You're not your f***ing khakis. You're the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world.
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Post by Hugh Mungus on Nov 21, 2009 1:35:32 GMT -5
I talked about Fight Club...
...What are you gonna do about it?
After all, I yanked Superman's cape, spat against the wind, pulled off The Lone Ranger's mask, and messed with Jim!
**readies flame shield and machine gun**
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Post by salsashark on Nov 21, 2009 2:05:28 GMT -5
My opinions on the movie teeter-totter -- sometimes, it annoys me, but other times, I think it's a decent idea with OK execution -- but something that really bothered me was the Fight Club merchandise produced after the film. I know, I know, movies are a business, companies making merch =/= Palahnuik's or Fincher's visions, etc. but it seemed pretty moronic and hypocritical to me to stamp the soap logo on stuff when the film is about not having shit you don't need. Worse than that would probably be die-hard Fight Club fans who grasp the anti-commercialism messages in the movie and champion it as a thoughtful A+ time but still go out and buy the merch.
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Post by toddpolt on Nov 21, 2009 2:06:38 GMT -5
My opinions on the movie teeter-totter -- sometimes, it annoys me, but other times, I think it's a decent idea with OK execution -- but something that really bothered me was the Fight Club merchandise produced after the film. I know, I know, movies are a business, companies making merch =/= Palahnuik's or Fincher's visions, etc. but it seemed pretty moronic and hypocritical to me to stamp the soap logo on stuff when the film is about not having s*** you don't need. Worse than that would probably be die-hard Fight Club fans who grasp the anti-commercialism messages in the movie and champion it as a thoughtful A+ time but still go out and buy the merch. Isn't life wonderful?
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