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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Nov 21, 2009 17:12:39 GMT -5
Eh, if all they did was mock the '87 Turtles, then I'm not interested in tracking this down. I'm tired of literally everything from my childhood being torn apart by the generation before and the generation after.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2009 19:15:59 GMT -5
I can see how people perceive that it was smacktalk against the old series, but it was really a compare/contrast to the seriousness of the 03 turtles. Not to mention... EXTREME SPOILER AHEAD!!! {Spoiler}The Mirage Turtles gave pretty much the same treatment to the 03 Turtles, plus the fact they have Bebop and Rocksteady finish off the Super Shredder. I enjoyed it muchly myself. |
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Nov 21, 2009 19:21:57 GMT -5
Eh, if all they did was mock the '87 Turtles, then I'm not interested in tracking this down. I'm tired of literally everything from my childhood being torn apart by the generation before and the generation after. It doesnt entirely mock the 87 series..... |
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Post by toddpolt on Nov 21, 2009 19:28:31 GMT -5
Eh, if all they did was mock the '87 Turtles, then I'm not interested in tracking this down. I'm tired of literally everything from my childhood being torn apart by the generation before and the generation after. Honestly I thought it was spot on. Those two programs just have different attitudes from different times. That original B&W comic was, as I remember it, one of those moody gritty comics you would have expected from the Frank Miller days. Taking itself rather seriously considering the concept. The 80s/90s toon, at least those years when it was the #1 kids show and most affluent in pop culture, I seem to remember that group as like the Beatles in Help! Major stuff happening everywhere, but they took it in stride as a joke. Not always, but the characterization is tongue & cheek appropriate. The recent incarnation, from what I've seen here and there on YouTube, seems to be a mix of the Mirage comics and the original toon. More serious, but more as a colorful adventure comic strip. Probably funny why Mikey likes one world, Ralph likes the other. Almost like unintentional leftovers. Anyway, I quite enjoyed the movie. Hell probably even more than I figured I would. A boatful of references and in-jokes that my inner-6 year old child totally mark, yet still a decent saturday morning action plot along the way. You know what the best scene though was? Some will totally agree with me. The best was {Spoiler}the ending, starting back where it all began in our 1980s world. The comic book just finished, ready for publication by two guys who don't realize they've just started off a remarkable journey across mutliple medias. The circle completes itself. |
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Post by toddpolt on Nov 21, 2009 19:32:26 GMT -5
Eh, if all they did was mock the '87 Turtles, then I'm not interested in tracking this down. I'm tired of literally everything from my childhood being torn apart by the generation before and the generation after. It doesnt entirely mock the 87 series..... And lets admit something: The 80s series was for better or for worse a product of its time. Completely non-offensive, the heroes not particularly stand out* characterization-wise, a dose of campy humor regarding the villainy (oh God especially the villainy) and sometimes the threats. A total excuse to sell toys, yet turned out to have a major impact on a generation of kids. If I remember right, it only changed in its later years (which I don't remember, I might have quit watching by then) because the ratings started to go down, so they had to finally stop with the technodrome and Shredder stuff or whatever. Am I wrong? *=I remember from my kid days Donatello being the archetype scientist of any superhero group. But the others? What else did they particularly do? I mean besides one with swords, one with the stick, one with numbchucks... |
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Nov 21, 2009 19:37:37 GMT -5
I expected some mocking, but having even Leonardo and Donatello acting like mindless jokesters all of the time got to be a bit much.
And if they really wanted to do some compare/contrast between the two series, they could have spent a bit less time driving home the "lol silly 80's turtles" stuff and do something with, say, the Splinters; after all, one was Hamato Yoshi's rat and the other was Hamato Yoshi himself. Tell me THAT wouldn't have been a rather interesting point to bring up. Or, how about Casey Jones? The 80's version wasn't nearly as fleshed out, and didn't really have any connection to April that I can remember; they could have done some interesting compare/contrast with that. But, instead, they only cared about the serious/not serious contrast to the point of the older cartoon being presented as a joke, and that got pretty old by the end.
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Post by toddpolt on Nov 21, 2009 19:40:37 GMT -5
Or you could simply see it as a cartoon about ninja turtles making fun of another cartoon about ninja turtles.
Mr. Irony is a tad thick at the waist at the moment.
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Post by Methusael86 on Nov 21, 2009 21:10:36 GMT -5
According to Wikipedia, Turtles Forever is a straight-to-DVD animated movie, so I'm pretty sure this will come to DVD.
I LOVED this movie!
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Nov 21, 2009 21:43:34 GMT -5
According to Wikipedia, Turtles Forever is a straight-to-DVD animated movie, so I'm pretty sure this will come to DVD. I LOVED this movie! Yeah I'm betting they made a deal where this would be the last thing they could release before Viacom takes over. |
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Post by silentrage on Nov 21, 2009 21:52:02 GMT -5
It was pretty good. Ragged on the 80's version more then I would have liked, but whatever.
Did anyone else notice when they showed the images of the Multiverse, that the Japanese transforming (and allegedly created somewhat illegally) Ninja Turtles was one of them? I thought that was pretty surprising.
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Post by Malcolm on Nov 22, 2009 0:06:36 GMT -5
I expected some mocking, but having even Leonardo and Donatello acting like mindless jokesters all of the time got to be a bit much. And if they really wanted to do some compare/contrast between the two series, they could have spent a bit less time driving home the "lol silly 80's turtles" stuff and do something with, say, the Splinters; after all, one was Hamato Yoshi's rat and the other was Hamato Yoshi himself. Tell me THAT wouldn't have been a rather interesting point to bring up. Or, how about Casey Jones? The 80's version wasn't nearly as fleshed out, and didn't really have any connection to April that I can remember; they could have done some interesting compare/contrast with that. But, instead, they only cared about the serious/not serious contrast to the point of the older cartoon being presented as a joke, and that got pretty old by the end. I've watched a part of it on Youtube and while it seems good, I agree that it does seem to exaggerate the goofiness of the Turtles to the Nth degree. I mean they had even Leonardo and Donatello acting like goofballs. Leo was always the serious one in the old cartoon. They even did an episode on the Old toon on how they wished Leo was less serious. And they would NOT just jump out to get pizzas at least not without thir trenchcoats(from the episodes I've seen anyway). Of all the voices, though, I'm impressed with 87 Raph's the most. He sounds the closest to the original. I wish they could've been able to use the real 87 theme song instead of that stupid cheesy knock off. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2009 0:17:20 GMT -5
I wish they could've been able to use the real 87 theme song instead of that stupid cheesy knock off. That's the change of companies man. That's why they changed the music in Turtles in Time on that TMNT game on the PS2 and X-Box and the Turtles in Time remake. |
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Post by Malcolm on Nov 22, 2009 0:21:57 GMT -5
I wish they could've been able to use the real 87 theme song instead of that stupid cheesy knock off. That's the change of companies man. That's why they changed the music in Turtles in Time on that TMNT game on the PS2 and X-Box and the Turtles in Time remake. I probably should've expected that, but they were able to use the exact character designs and backgrounds and even the same background characters from the old show. |
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Post by King Fox -1017 Bricksquad on Nov 22, 2009 0:36:44 GMT -5
I loved every second of it. I liked when '87 Donatello said "Told ya it would work..."
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Post by Kroot bringing Justice on Nov 22, 2009 1:23:07 GMT -5
I loved that the '80's turtles were catching so much crap, seriously, hated the 80's cartoon as a kid. All so the line "Our Shredder is totally different from yours. He's viscous, evil, and competent." was one of my favorites.
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Post by Cyborg Franky on Nov 22, 2009 5:53:50 GMT -5
4kids on one their website said they are going to put the extended verison of the movie on their site in a couple weeks.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Nov 22, 2009 9:33:32 GMT -5
I expected some mocking, but having even Leonardo and Donatello acting like mindless jokesters all of the time got to be a bit much. And if they really wanted to do some compare/contrast between the two series, they could have spent a bit less time driving home the "lol silly 80's turtles" stuff and do something with, say, the Splinters; after all, one was Hamato Yoshi's rat and the other was Hamato Yoshi himself. Tell me THAT wouldn't have been a rather interesting point to bring up. Or, how about Casey Jones? The 80's version wasn't nearly as fleshed out, and didn't really have any connection to April that I can remember; they could have done some interesting compare/contrast with that. But, instead, they only cared about the serious/not serious contrast to the point of the older cartoon being presented as a joke, and that got pretty old by the end. I've watched a part of it on Youtube and while it seems good, I agree that it does seem to exaggerate the goofiness of the Turtles to the Nth degree. I mean they had even Leonardo and Donatello acting like goofballs. Leo was always the serious one in the old cartoon. They even did an episode on the Old toon on how they wished Leo was less serious. And they would NOT just jump out to get pizzas at least not without thir trenchcoats(from the episodes I've seen anyway). Of all the voices, though, I'm impressed with 87 Raph's the most. He sounds the closest to the original. Exactly. It was more like a bad, insulting parody of the 1987 Turtles than anything else. |
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Nov 22, 2009 11:19:24 GMT -5
Music rights work differently than every other kind of rights. The composer, the lyricist and the singer and the current rightsholder would have had to been paid royalties for using the music, whereas the art work was a work for hire, and could be licensed from Lion's Gate, the current owners of the 1986 Series.
Yeah, I thought the whole cartoonish nature of the 1986 series was overplayed, but I think Shredder explained that rather well. Deep down inside, they were turtles, but you had to highlight the things that made them different.
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Post by toddpolt on Nov 22, 2009 11:25:14 GMT -5
I've watched a part of it on Youtube and while it seems good, I agree that it does seem to exaggerate the goofiness of the Turtles to the Nth degree. I mean they had even Leonardo and Donatello acting like goofballs. Leo was always the serious one in the old cartoon. They even did an episode on the Old toon on how they wished Leo was less serious. And they would NOT just jump out to get pizzas at least not without thir trenchcoats(from the episodes I've seen anyway). Of all the voices, though, I'm impressed with 87 Raph's the most. He sounds the closest to the original. Exactly. It was more like a bad, insulting parody of the 1987 Turtles than anything else. In short, your childhood has been insulted.  |
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Nov 22, 2009 12:06:48 GMT -5
Eh. Like I said, it was annoying, but I don't take it too seriously. I can at least appreciate the fact that they did make use of the old cartoon for this movie, even if I wish they had gone about doing so a little differently.
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