TMNT on Nickelodeon.....predictions?

[Dave at the Movies]

I'm sure most have heard but Nickelodeon underneath MTV which is underneath Viacom bought the TMNT franchise. I did some searching to see if Peter Laird(the co-creator who had full ownership with his comic book company Mirage Studios) would be involved creatively at all and it turns out he will have nothing to do with the new series which is suppose to start in about 2011 or 2012. Laird had a lot of say in the creative side of the 2003 series which is why it was so much darker than the original series. He said that if he and Kevin Eastman(other co-creator who sold off his stock in TMNT in like 2000) had had their way the original series would have been more similar to the 2003 but I guess it was just a different time period.


So without Mirage involved at all I don't know how Nickelodeon is going to handle this franchise. My biggest fear is that it will be cheesey like the original series(which wasn't bad but like I said it was a different time period and made sense.) What I am hoping is that they go the anime route(not actually make it anime) but make it more action oriented like an anime show especially since anime is so popular today.

I have a lot more concern though considering Nick has never really done a cartoon action show like this that I can think of. I'm afraid they will just make it all comedy like the rest of their programming.

[Sir Woodrow]

Maybe they'll have the Avatar: The Last Airbender people work on it.

[Malcolm]

Nov 21, 2009 21:51:14 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

I'm sure most have heard but Nickelodeon underneath MTV which is underneath Viacom bought the TMNT franchise. I did some searching to see if Peter Laird(the co-creator who had full ownership with his comic book company Mirage Studios) would be involved creatively at all and it turns out he will have nothing to do with the new series which is suppose to start in about 2011 or 2012. Laird had a lot of say in the creative side of the 2003 series which is why it was so much darker than the original series. He said that if he and Kevin Eastman(other co-creator who sold off his stock in TMNT in like 2000) had had their way the original series would have been more similar to the 2003 but I guess it was just a different time period.


So without Mirage involved at all I don't know how Nickelodeon is going to handle this franchise. My biggest fear is that it will be cheesey like the original series(which wasn't bad but like I said it was a different time period and made sense.) What I am hoping is that they go the anime route(not actually make it anime) but make it more action oriented like an anime show especially since anime is so popular today.

I have a lot more concern though considering Nick has never really done a cartoon action show like this that I can think of. I'm afraid they will just make it all comedy like the rest of their programming.

Yup, Nick hasn't done a single action show like that...



Nope, not one single action show...

[Dr. Marzvon Zombie M.D.]

;D

[Dave at the Movies]

Oh I forgot all about Avatar. I never watched it so I didn't think of it but I have heard it was a good cartoon action show. For some reason I always thought it was on Cartoon Network since they use to have that big Toonami block.

That actually gives me a lot of hope than I had for the new series. I wonder why people are completely writing it off right away just because it will be on Nick?

[Malcolm]

Nov 21, 2009 22:05:45 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

Oh I forgot all about Avatar. I never watched it so I didn't think of it but I have heard it was a good cartoon action show. For some reason I always thought it was on Cartoon Network since they use to have that big Toonami block.

That actually gives me a lot of hope than I had for the new series. I wonder why people are completely writing it off right away just because it will be on Nick?

You kinda answered your own question in the first post in a way.

[Cyborg Franky]

As long they get all the major storylines from the comics in the new series, I'll watch it (Mostly speaking for the Turtles in Space, Return to New York, and City at War arcs (since the 2003 series did cover them all, Turtles in Space and Return to New York came out very nicely, it just City at War was okay, it wasn't as epic as the comice verison of the storyline.) in their show. I'll be happy.

[Kroot bringing Justice]

Nov 21, 2009 21:56:14 GMT -5 Malcolm said:

Nov 21, 2009 21:51:14 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

I'm sure most have heard but Nickelodeon underneath MTV which is underneath Viacom bought the TMNT franchise. I did some searching to see if Peter Laird(the co-creator who had full ownership with his comic book company Mirage Studios) would be involved creatively at all and it turns out he will have nothing to do with the new series which is suppose to start in about 2011 or 2012. Laird had a lot of say in the creative side of the 2003 series which is why it was so much darker than the original series. He said that if he and Kevin Eastman(other co-creator who sold off his stock in TMNT in like 2000) had had their way the original series would have been more similar to the 2003 but I guess it was just a different time period.


So without Mirage involved at all I don't know how Nickelodeon is going to handle this franchise. My biggest fear is that it will be cheesey like the original series(which wasn't bad but like I said it was a different time period and made sense.) What I am hoping is that they go the anime route(not actually make it anime) but make it more action oriented like an anime show especially since anime is so popular today.

I have a lot more concern though considering Nick has never really done a cartoon action show like this that I can think of. I'm afraid they will just make it all comedy like the rest of their programming.

Yup, Nick hasn't done a single action show like that...



Nope, not one single action show...

Hopefully it'll get a better finale if it gets that far.......

[Jay Peas 42]

Yeah, Nick is capable of action, as seen with Avatar. But I assume it will be "Grittier."

[Deleted]

Whatever they do...can't be much worse than

[Sir Woodrow]

Nov 22, 2009 0:52:44 GMT -5 @geneyussrevolution said:

Whatever they do...can't be much worse than

Nothing could be worse than that.

[Cry Me a Wiggle]

There are certain elements I'm more found of from the original show, such as Splinter actually being Hamato Yoshi, and of course a great deal of the characters (Krang, especially). If they could bring those forward but give them a more serious slant, I think I'd be more interested.

[Dirty Hazy]

ugh... Venus. What a terrible mistake and an obvious ploy to gain female viewers.

[Dave at the Movies]

Nov 22, 2009 9:20:27 GMT -5 Dirty Hazy said:

ugh... Venus. What a terrible mistake and an obvious ploy to gain female viewers.

If a new girl turtle is introduced in the Nick show I think we should riot.

[kidtamagotchi]

I think it'll be wacky, with some action (episodes not based around the action). Since it's going to be CGI, it'll have a simpler look to it.

[Deleted]

It's kind of a moot point to make predictions, as Nick has already said that they plan to focus on the universe of the original cartoon, which is far and away the best way to go, in my opinion.

I'm one of the biggest fans of the TMNT across all canons you'll ever meet, and I don't think "gritty" works well outside of the original Mirage comics run. Hell, even then it was done very tongue-in-cheek as a parody of super-SRS comics like Daredevil. It may be intense and violent, but that's still balanced with the fact that they're ninja turtles.

Ask anyone who was around when the Turtles were the biggest thing around to describe them, and you'll likely hear about Bebop and Rocksteady, Krang, and the Technodrome. To most TMNT fans of the era, Triceraton and Fugitoid (Prof. Honeycutt) were obscure action figures, and Baxter Stockman wasn't a mouser-building scientist whose brain was implanted into a robot body, he was a mutant fly.

My biggest concern is simply making sure that the Turtles don't look awful. The Turtles from the Mirage comics, the Playmates toys, and the original toon were all kind of short and thick, but still muscular and looked like humanoids. They looked like a fighting, mutated turtle should. The '03 series looked more human than turtle, with straight lines and sharp angles all over.

The turtles in the 2007 CGI film looked like walking lizards with hamburgers for heads.

[heyguesswhatidid]

Not to change the subject, but did anyone see Turtles Forever on Saturday morning, it was a cartoon where the 2003 turtles team up with the 1989 turtles and it was actually pretty good, even though the 1989 voices kinda sucked.

[Dave at the Movies]

Nov 24, 2009 8:56:09 GMT -5 @wvguitar said:

It's kind of a moot point to make predictions, as Nick has already said that they plan to focus on the universe of the original cartoon, which is far and away the best way to go, in my opinion.

I'm one of the biggest fans of the TMNT across all canons you'll ever meet, and I don't think "gritty" works well outside of the original Mirage comics run. Hell, even then it was done very tongue-in-cheek as a parody of super-SRS comics like Daredevil. It may be intense and violent, but that's still balanced with the fact that they're ninja turtles.

Ask anyone who was around when the Turtles were the biggest thing around to describe them, and you'll likely hear about Bebop and Rocksteady, Krang, and the Technodrome. To most TMNT fans of the era, Triceraton and Fugitoid (Prof. Honeycutt) were obscure action figures, and Baxter Stockman wasn't a mouser-building scientist whose brain was implanted into a robot body, he was a mutant fly.

My biggest concern is simply making sure that the Turtles don't look awful. The Turtles from the Mirage comics, the Playmates toys, and the original toon were all kind of short and thick, but still muscular and looked like humanoids. They looked like a fighting, mutated turtle should. The '03 series looked more human than turtle, with straight lines and sharp angles all over.

The turtles in the 2007 CGI film looked like walking lizards with hamburgers for heads.

I think the 2007 movie where they looked like that was more of a nod to the original comics.

Also I wouldn't be surprised to see Nick actually find a good medium between gritty and comedy side of TMNT. I highly doubt they are going to just base it off the original cartoon. I'd be willing to bet we see something more closer to the 2003 series.

[Kroot bringing Justice]

Nov 24, 2009 8:56:09 GMT -5 @wvguitar said:

It's kind of a moot point to make predictions, as Nick has already said that they plan to focus on the universe of the original cartoon, which is far and away the best way to go, in my opinion.

And interest lost.

[Malcolm]

Nov 24, 2009 15:30:51 GMT -5 Kroot bringing Justice said:

Nov 24, 2009 8:56:09 GMT -5 @wvguitar said:

It's kind of a moot point to make predictions, as Nick has already said that they plan to focus on the universe of the original cartoon, which is far and away the best way to go, in my opinion.

And interest lost.

I doubt it's going to be a carbon copy to the old cartoon to a T.

I for one am intrigued by this(and quite honestly knew about this beforehand and didn't feel like telling anybody about this). I'm not gonna make judgement until I see a teaser or something.