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Post by Kroot bringing Justice on Nov 24, 2009 15:56:09 GMT -5
I doubt it's going to be a carbon copy to the old cartoon to a T. I for one am intrigued by this(and quite honestly knew about this beforehand and didn't feel like telling anybody about this). I'm not gonna make judgment until I see a teaser or something. If Shredder is anything like 80's Shredder at all, this show can go f*** off. Especially if Krang, Beebop, Rocsteady show up. I'm going to give it a chance but mentioning the horrid 80's show is a major red flag.
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Post by Malcolm on Nov 24, 2009 16:00:13 GMT -5
I doubt it's going to be a carbon copy to the old cartoon to a T. I for one am intrigued by this(and quite honestly knew about this beforehand and didn't feel like telling anybody about this). I'm not gonna make judgment until I see a teaser or something. If Shredder is anything like 80's Shredder at all, this show can go f*** off. Especially if Krang, Beebop, Rocsteady show up. I'm going to give it a chance but mentioning the horrid 80's show is a major red flag. .... You must've lived a very dull childhood.
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Post by Kroot bringing Justice on Nov 24, 2009 16:13:05 GMT -5
If Shredder is anything like 80's Shredder at all, this show can go f*** off. Especially if Krang, Beebop, Rocsteady show up. I'm going to give it a chance but mentioning the horrid 80's show is a major red flag. .... You must've lived a very dull childhood. No, I read the comics, when I heard about the cartoon I was expecting something like that. I was letdown. Especially when it comes to Shredder, 80's Shredder is a horrible Shredder who should've gotten shot out of a cannon the first episode if that was how he's was going to be the whole series. God, nothing in the show could touch the awesome that was this moment {Spoiler} Or the Shredders back storyline.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Nov 24, 2009 16:21:49 GMT -5
Kroot, is your birthday right in your profile? Because if so that would mean you weren't even born yet when the original series came out so how could you have read the comics before that? I'm just guessing you're older than that, but that threw me for a loop for a minute. lol
Everyone also has to remember that the original cartoon was meant to be a Saturday morning kids cartoon. Not a serious adult adventure.
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Post by AriadosMan on Nov 24, 2009 16:27:17 GMT -5
On one hand, the 80s show was a major part of our childhoods and had some funny one-shot episodes (Pizza Monsters is a good example). On the other hand, it was so censored and butchered due to children's programming guidelines that it robbed the Turtles (who were supposed to be edgy) of even using their weapons in most episodes. 80s Shredder had a great VO in Roger Avary but he sucked as a portrayal of the villain. The best of both worlds in terms of doing the characters in an edgy way that still appealed to kids was the 1st live-action movie.
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Post by Malcolm on Nov 24, 2009 16:31:25 GMT -5
Kroot, is your birthday right in your profile? Because if so that would mean you weren't even born yet when the original series came out so how could you have read the comics before that? I'm just guessing you're older than that, but that threw me for a loop for a minute. lol Everyone also has to remember that the original cartoon was meant to be a Saturday morning kids cartoon. Not a serious adult adventure. I'm just wondering just when did he start watching the cartoon series? Season 4-6 was when the show became really slapsticky IMO. But yeah, what Deadpool said was right. You really shouldn't have come in expecting something super duper serious. And as far as villains go, I always found 80's Shredder likeable and thought him, Bebop and Rocksteady made the show.
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Post by Kroot bringing Justice on Nov 24, 2009 16:32:14 GMT -5
Kroot, is your birthday right in your profile? Because if so that would mean you weren't even born yet when the original series came out so how could you have read the comics before that? I'm just guessing you're older than that, but that threw me for a loop for a minute. lol Everyone also has to remember that the original cartoon was meant to be a Saturday morning kids cartoon. Not a serious adult adventure. I didn't get a hold of my brothers tapes till after I read a bunch of the comics I borrowed from friends. Plus all so FOX or WB or one of the networks would show the series in order all the time.
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Post by AriadosMan on Nov 24, 2009 16:34:06 GMT -5
Kroot, is your birthday right in your profile? Because if so that would mean you weren't even born yet when the original series came out so how could you have read the comics before that? I'm just guessing you're older than that, but that threw me for a loop for a minute. lol Everyone also has to remember that the original cartoon was meant to be a Saturday morning kids cartoon. Not a serious adult adventure. I'm just wondering just when did he start watching the cartoon series? Season 4-6 was when the show became really slapsticky IMO. But yeah, what Deadpool said was right. You really shouldn't have come in expecting something super duper serious. And as far as villains go, I always found 80's Shredder likeable and thought him, Bebop and Rocksteady made the show. They stopped using their weapons from whenever the show became CBS Saturday Morning (3rd season?) to about Season 8 (when the show was given a near-total visual revamp).
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Post by Kroot bringing Justice on Nov 24, 2009 16:48:02 GMT -5
I'm just wondering just when did he start watching the cartoon series? Season 4-6 was when the show became really slapsticky IMO. But yeah, what Deadpool said was right. You really shouldn't have come in expecting something super duper serious. And as far as villains go, I always found 80's Shredder likeable and thought him, Bebop and Rocksteady made the show. They stopped using their weapons from whenever the show became CBS Saturday Morning (3rd season?) to about Season 8 (when the show was given a near-total visual revamp). I did start liking the show around the Red Sky days. Season 1 was all right, but 2-7 were just grating to me.
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Nov 24, 2009 17:23:30 GMT -5
Biggest difference to the TMNT on Nick versus other incarnations? It'll be revealed that Splinter and the Turtles got slimed by the mutagen after one of them said "I don't know!".
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Post by diegorivera on Nov 24, 2009 19:08:18 GMT -5
Biggest difference to the TMNT on Nick versus other incarnations? It'll be revealed that Splinter and the Turtles got slimed by the mutagen after one of them said "I don't know!". I lol'd. On topic, go the "Batman: The Brave and the Bold," route. Play the silly for serious. The villains, even for the absurdity of their schemes, competent and threatening. The turtles themselves with their 80's personalities, but the efficiency in combat from the original comics/2k3-09 versions. Bring back the robotic foot soldiers and let them use their weapons on them. Don and Mikey more like their live action movie versions: Mikey a jokester but not a bad pun/stoner lingo using/catchphrase machine or a cowardly, moronic man-child and Don still the brain but less of a reptile MacGyver. April back to being a reporter but with less of a distressed damsel motif. Splinter and Yoshi one-and-the-same. Borrowing some themes and ideas from the Archie Turtles comic would make for a nice extra as well. Overall, if Nick and whoever they have working on this put forth the same amount of effort Laird and 4Kids, (whoda thunk,) did with TMNT 2k3, then you'll have a decent show at the very least. If they just make a carbon copy of the 80s show down to all the stupid and dated elements, it will fail. The 80s show had Turtlemania to fuel it. Now, the Turtles are popular, but no where near their peak in the 80s and early 90s and their current audience has different expectations of how the characters are. How many kids today even know of the 80s show? It was way before their time...
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Post by AriadosMan on Nov 24, 2009 19:23:38 GMT -5
BATB is actually pretty violent/intense compared to the version of the TMNT that aired Saturday mornings on CBS. Although it has humor/camp, it can be enjoyed by adults in a way that the SatAM TMNT (season 8+ excluded) really couldn't.
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Post by happygilmore on Nov 24, 2009 19:38:21 GMT -5
Biggest difference to the TMNT on Nick versus other incarnations? It'll be revealed that Splinter and the Turtles got slimed by the mutagen after one of them said "I don't know!". How many kids today even know of the 80s show? It was way before their time... That's hard to gauge, but dvd sales are good. Now, I realize that people my age (25) who grew up with the '80s version bought dvd's, I gotta feeling that there are a bunch of kids today familiar with it. I don't really see a lot of dvd's featuring Turtles 2K3, so I'd imagine parents, not really knowing the difference purchased '80s Turtles dvds. Ultimately, I like both series for what they were. After 2k3 being so serious a show, I'd love to see a return to the 'funny', so to speak. Here's the problem: I like Shredder both as a badass from 2003 and as the funny one from '88. If he wasn't the 'main' villain, I could see him going one way or the other. I gotta feeling this time around he's gonna be completely comical.
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