B.B.M
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Post by B.B.M on Dec 5, 2009 18:47:00 GMT -5
This is going to be a Mini rant, so brace yourselves.
Yes, I know Climate Change is a big factor, as it goes back to the beginning of time, but I don't have to hear about it everyday, I don't want to know, that I might see a Canal Boat sail past my bedroom window one day.
But that isn't the main reason I'm sick of it.....Another reason is because how much we do to save the planet, it isn't enough. These people recycle, use less electricity and gas, thinking they're doing good for the planet, you it still isn't enough, so what are they going to do, they're go to go further, and recycle more, and cut of electricity and gas. These people will push, and push and push to the end, that they should get the nobel prize for such determination.
But again, this isn't the main reason, this is the main reason.....Today, I was on the bus, going to see my sister. While on the bus, I noticed a young girl around the age of eight or so, with her mother. You could hear them talking, then the little girl mentioned Climate Change, but nothing prepared the bus for these words
"Mum.....Does that mean we will die?"
I'm sorry, that hearing a little girl mention that, just shows how pathetic this is getting, when a little girl asks about death. Don't these people understand, these little kids will be the future one day, and having them thinking that they will die, isn't a good sign.
The point of all of this, is How far can the media and that go with this, they have people obsessing over it and they have children questioning their futures, but will that be enough?
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Dec 5, 2009 18:49:48 GMT -5
Polar bears daddy.
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Post by Grendel on Dec 5, 2009 18:55:49 GMT -5
Especially with the discovery of emails by those with big clout in the Climate Change community ...
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Post by Bo Rida on Dec 5, 2009 18:58:55 GMT -5
Agreed, especially the children's story advert about drowning puppies, that's some bad parenting.
It makes me laugh when there's protests to raise awareness of climate change, you can't switch on the TV or pick up a newspaper without a mention of it. There's usually one climate change commercial every ad-break and the BBC are obsessed with it, except top gear of course.
I wish they'd focus on deforestation rather than cutting emissions too.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Dec 5, 2009 19:01:24 GMT -5
I completely agree with the first poster. This whole climate change crap is ridiculous and getting out of hand. I can't say too much about it or else it will get political real quick but about a week ago someone hacked into some British scientist's emails and found all kinds of crap about them talking about how to hide the decline in global temperatures.
My opinion is that most of it is just a scam and it is being use to make people money.
Also this whole thing about Polar Bears becoming extinct is a bunch of crap. They are not endangered. Sure in some areas they are decreasing but overall the polar bear is actually increasing in numbers.
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Post by Grendel on Dec 5, 2009 19:14:32 GMT -5
I completely agree with the first poster. This whole climate change crap is ridiculous and getting out of hand. I can't say too much about it or else it will get political real quick but about a week ago someone hacked into some British scientist's emails and found all kinds of crap about them talking about how to hide the decline in global temperatures. My opinion is that most of it is just a scam and it is being use to make people money. Also this whole thing about Polar Bears becoming extinct is a bunch of crap. They are not endangered. Sure in some areas they are decreasing but overall the polar bear is actually increasing in numbers. Yes, just like they tell you that the ice is melting in some spots, but what they don't tell you is that the ice is getting inexplicably thicker in others, like it's compensating for itself or something.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Dec 5, 2009 19:22:52 GMT -5
Ok so just a heads up no politics.
Honestly I'm not sure how much human involvement is in the world getting warmer. Hell it might just be a cycle as we've been worrying about it getting colder and warmer on and off for a while and we might have turned the corner and its getting colder. In the end I think that its a good idea to reduce pollution because its definitely not good to breath in your lungs so it might not be because of ice and stuff but more just public health.
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Post by Grendel on Dec 5, 2009 19:25:22 GMT -5
Agreed, especially the children's story advert about drowning puppies, that's some bad parenting. It makes me laugh when there's protests to raise awareness of climate change, you can't switch on the TV or pick up a newspaper without a mention of it. There's usually one climate change commercial every ad-break and the BBC are obsessed with it, except top gear of course. I wish they'd focus on deforestation rather than cutting emissions too. You know the logging companies over here across the pond replant trees after taking down the old growth timber, right? Oh, true story. I was at work and one of my supervisors was crowing one day about Brazil. "We're stupid. We should be like Brazil, they went green a long time ago." Which led me to answer, "You realize that in order to go green and grow the sugar cane they use in cheap ethanol, they razed down an ungodly amount of their rainforest, right?" He answered, "What do you mean?" To which I said, "Well, they needed more farmland to grow all of the sugar cane, so they razed down a huge amount of their rainforest to do it. Sure, they deforested for other reasons, but that was a big reason right there. So you're saying that we as a country should do a mass deforestation spree to grow more corn for ethanol?" He didn't have an answer for that one.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Dec 5, 2009 19:27:01 GMT -5
Agreed, especially the children's story advert about drowning puppies, that's some bad parenting. It makes me laugh when there's protests to raise awareness of climate change, you can't switch on the TV or pick up a newspaper without a mention of it. There's usually one climate change commercial every ad-break and the BBC are obsessed with it, except top gear of course. I wish they'd focus on deforestation rather than cutting emissions too. You know the logging companies over here across the pond replant trees after taking down the old growth timber, right? I thought it was Rain forest deforestation but I don't want to assume.
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Post by Grendel on Dec 5, 2009 19:31:39 GMT -5
You know the logging companies over here across the pond replant trees after taking down the old growth timber, right? I thought it was Rain forest deforestation but I don't want to assume. You are probably right. And those commercials where the kids are telling their parents what to do? If I had done that when I was a kid, I would've gotten smacked in the ribs and told not to sass talk them.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Dec 5, 2009 19:43:03 GMT -5
I thought it was Rain forest deforestation but I don't want to assume. You are probably right. And those commercials where the kids are telling their parents what to do? If I had done that when I was a kid, I would've gotten smacked in the ribs and told not to sass talk them. Well my parents wouldn't hit me in the ribs... sure maybe the occasional shot in the arm... and nobody in my family has used the word sass. But yeah in what Utopian world is it that the parents listen to their kids.
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Post by erisi236 on Dec 5, 2009 19:48:06 GMT -5
I hate the scare tactics that run wild personally, they've made it out that the very thing that you and I are exhaling and plants are breathing in is in reality poison that will kill us all.
I wish they'd tone it down a notch and maybe show a few less polar bear cubs or something.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 5, 2009 19:49:41 GMT -5
I thought it was Rain forest deforestation but I don't want to assume. You are probably right. And those commercials where the kids are telling their parents what to do? If I had done that when I was a kid, I would've gotten smacked in the ribs and told not to sass talk them. I'd have got a slap to the mouth and a belt to the ass. You have to wonder exactly what type of message the people behind the commercials are really trying to send.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Dec 5, 2009 20:02:28 GMT -5
I hate the scare tactics that run wild personally, they've made it out that the very thing that you and I are exhaling and plants are breathing in is in reality poison that will kill us all. I wish they'd tone it down a notch and maybe show a few less polar bear cubs or something. fear is very effective. When someone tries to mug you they don't ask you nicely they scare you into it.
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Dec 5, 2009 20:40:07 GMT -5
It's not so much that I think the Greenhouse Effect Theory is invalid. I don't actually think the proposed solution at the cost of trillions of dollars to the global ecomomy is feasible, nor do I think that the evidence we have ( which appears to becomputer models of questionable validity and cherry picked news items) warrants such a solution. In addition, given the claim that Climate change is a serious problem, yet the same people often reject Nuclear power as an carbon free energy source, shows me that the proponents aren't serious on this issue.
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Post by Bobafett on Dec 5, 2009 21:24:47 GMT -5
its like when there were shows in the UK trying to save endangered animals and Tom Conti (Emilys Dad in Friends for you yanks ) was the host..but in a rant in the media said "Animals have been evoled and eventually driven to extinction one way or an other since the dawn of time, and we are foolish to think we have the god given right to stop this natural order2 (makes sense..ok alot of things are dying out dur to man made stuff, but maybe that IS the natural order )
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Dec 5, 2009 22:19:11 GMT -5
People put the fear in children to drive their agendas since the beginning of time. Growing up in the 80s they would show us movies of atomic bombs and tell us the soviets could kill us all at any time, now back to the smurfs. I have heard parents tell their kids what abortion entails or that everyone in big cities walks around firing guns at each other. What kid today doesn't know that a terrorist could kill him at any time? ALERT LEVEL MAGENTA! Yeah its a crappy thing adults do but kids are a lot more resilient than I think we give them credit for.
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Post by TuneinTokyo on Dec 6, 2009 0:40:14 GMT -5
I think man made global warming is and will be coming under more and more scrutiny. It doesn't hurt to recycle and do your best to cut down on waste.
My problem is the government telling me I can't light a fire in my fireplace. Sorry but there are far less wood burning fireplaces in the world than twenty years ago, so stick it. I'm burning on Thanksgiving dammit.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 6, 2009 1:23:49 GMT -5
There's little to suggest it isn't real and isn't a serious problem, but, like with anything else, beating people over the head with certain things will eventually only serve to turn them off to doing something positive about it. We don't need to get into how the excessive amount of "Just Say NO" commercials have had almost a sort of backlash effect in many places, but it's the same principle.
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Dec 6, 2009 9:09:59 GMT -5
There's a whole lot of misinformation coming from the global warming alarmists out there, and it seems to have taken hold. The Antarctic ice pack is thickening, so they focus on the Arctic ice. We've been on a cooling trend for 10 years, and yet they continue to harp about how the global temperature could go up again. I'm sure it would. There's been cycles of global warming and global cooling throughout human history, especially before the industrial revolution. The email leaks show us that just because they're a scientist, doesn't mean they check their own agendas at the door. I just think that environmentalists shouldn't be the ones dictating energy policy.
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