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Post by Jay Carroll on Dec 3, 2009 11:52:05 GMT -5
I...really don't get all the hate for Kings of Leon. I really, really don't. They've gone from being totally unknown to being widely hated for...reasons entirely beyond my knowledge. I mean, everyone has their own tastes or whatever...but good lord. I was on the anti-KoL bandwagon way before "Use Somebody". Just never found them to be noteworthy or good in any sense. While I don't wish I'll will upon them (I'll save that sentiment for the Chad Kroger'sand Amy Lee's of the music scene) I just want them to go away ASAP.
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Post by Blindkarevik on Dec 3, 2009 12:06:50 GMT -5
See, the downside of actually having a job is that's the point where I'm subjected to the radio on a daily basis so I get to know way too much about music I typically avoid.
Now, a lot of the songs I have to list as being the bane of my existence were not released in 2009, but they have been played on such a regular basis they may has well have been and as such, I will list them here:
Pink "So What" Augustana "Sweet And Low" Jason Mraz "I'm Yours" Plain White T's "Hey There, Delilah"
Each of these songs sends me into a rage when I hear them, and like I say, they may not have been released this year but their annoyance has carried on consistantly through this year getting as much, if not more, airplay than actual new singles.
Although, on the upside, from being able to avoid the radio for so long then suddenly being forced to pay attention to it on a regular basis, at least I know I'm absolutely missing nothing from the mainstream.
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Post by King Boo on Dec 3, 2009 18:22:06 GMT -5
I'm sorry, I love Lady GaGa. I like Lady Gaga. She can actually sing and has an image that's rather...striking. I'm sensing a pattern. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) That we're all female? So?
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 3, 2009 19:13:20 GMT -5
I don't mind Kings Of Leon, although their earlier stuff is a lot better than the stuff they do now. Same goes for Nickelback, but I actually don't like their newer stuff (except the song that is the new RAW theme. That's OK).
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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Dec 3, 2009 19:21:19 GMT -5
I'm sensing a pattern. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) That we're all female? So? Ahem... SISTERS ARE DOIN' IT FOR THEMSELVES! Carry on.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Dec 3, 2009 20:26:53 GMT -5
I heard 'Use Somebody' and didn't have the desire to hear anything else they did. Maybe everything else they do is great, but that song is amazingly lame.
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Post by skiller on Dec 3, 2009 20:30:34 GMT -5
Also anything by 3OH!3.
Those guys blow.
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Post by Man Moth? on Dec 4, 2009 12:00:26 GMT -5
I'm sensing a pattern. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) That we're all female? So? Point being, only women could like that tripe. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by MGH on Dec 4, 2009 12:13:51 GMT -5
And to blow that all to hell, I think her music is very good. I really enjoy it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2009 12:17:38 GMT -5
I heard 'Use Somebody' and didn't have the desire to hear anything else they did. Maybe everything else they do is great, but that song is amazingly lame. The matter is made much worse since it is the Kings of Leon song must likely to be played at your radio station. Personally, I'm not too big on Shinedown's "Second Chance" for that reason, too: I thought "Sound of Madness" and "If You Only Knew" were much better tracks that deserved to be played more. The worst song of 2009? "Good Girls Gone Bad" by Cobra Starship. Reeks of pop-dum.
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Dec 4, 2009 12:21:15 GMT -5
Here's one I forgot to add, however you can file this under folk/indie hipster drivel fairly easily. Just frigging terrible.
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Post by Man Moth? on Dec 4, 2009 12:34:56 GMT -5
^^ I'm not a fan of that song, but it doesn't hold up your theory. The guitar is in tune, the instruments are in time with one another and he isn't singing about jesus.
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Dec 4, 2009 12:59:38 GMT -5
^^ I'm not a fan of that song, but it doesn't hold up your theory. The guitar is in tune, the instruments are in time with one another and he isn't singing about jesus. Granted, they deviated from the stereotype, but it's still hipsters who are way too into themselves singing horrible songs with pretentious lyrics. They have the same fanbase.
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Post by Man Moth? on Dec 4, 2009 13:10:21 GMT -5
Sorry man, I don't get what you mean by the pretentious lyrics. I looked up the lyrics for that song and it seems as though they're telling a story.
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Dec 4, 2009 13:22:11 GMT -5
Sorry man, I don't get what you mean by the pretentious lyrics. I looked up the lyrics for that song and it seems as though they're telling a story. A story that would be more appropriate for a group of kindergartners than a room full of adults. The phrase is "being talked down to". You'll have to forgive me, I get all Pavlov over stuff like this. Yes, I know I'm the one who brought it up.
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Post by Man Moth? on Dec 4, 2009 13:37:09 GMT -5
Going by what I read briefly, it seems as though the lyrics tell a story about a dream that the singer had. That could be wrong though, as I don't know the band at all. I don't think the lyrics are the best I've heard, nor are they the worst.
What would be unpretentious lyrics to you? Something that is simple or not hard to figure out?
I like clever word-play and metaphors in my lyrics. I love trying to figure out lyrics, it's part of the fun.
Also, I fail to see the Pavlov reference. How does conditioning come into this?
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Dec 4, 2009 13:52:42 GMT -5
Going by what I read briefly, it seems as though the lyrics tell a story about a dream that the singer had. That could be wrong though, as I don't know the band at all. I don't think the lyrics are the best I've heard, nor are they the worst. What would be unpretentious lyrics to you? Something that is simple or not hard to figure out? I like clever word-play and metaphors in my lyrics. I love trying to figure out lyrics, it's part of the fun. Also, I fail to see the Pavlov reference. How does conditioning come into this? Check out my home town. It's hipster central. That's where the Pavlov thing comes in. I'm bombarded daily by stuff like this that is constantly being praised as genius but when I hear it it's aggrivatingly bad. As far as lyrics that aren't pretentious, here's the first thing I thought of It's honest, it's catchy, and most importantly, it doesn't try to be anything other more than what it is. See also: The Briefs "Razorblade Heart"
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Post by Man Moth? on Dec 4, 2009 13:55:51 GMT -5
So yeah, simple lyrics then. I guess we're different then. I enjoy working out lyrics (see the lyrics I posted earlier in the thread).
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Dec 4, 2009 14:15:51 GMT -5
So yeah, simple lyrics then. I guess we're different then. I enjoy working out lyrics (see the lyrics I posted earlier in the thread). It's not that it's simple, it's honest. It's not overreaching or contrived. Working out lyrics is fine and dandy as long as the lyrics themselves aren't convoluted or insulting. For example "Retrovertigo" is complex but it doesn't assume that we as the audience will swallow anything that sounds high brow. The song was written from an honest point of view, but it presents itself as a crossword puzzle left for the listener to figure out for themselves. Mewithoutyou pretends it's highbrow but it's really a dippy song about a bird stealing a god damn cookie. Whooptee doo Again, my opinion. I'm not right or wrong.
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Dec 4, 2009 17:40:08 GMT -5
They're huge here. They just won about 4 or 5 ARIA awards (Australian Grammys) last week. In fact SEVEN!!! awards, they are amazing, and here is the video of they playing Walking On A Dream on the awards: this is some of the absolute WORST garbage i have ever heard in my life. many of the bands being bashed in here are head and shoulders above this ridiculous shit.
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