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Post by Throwback on Dec 7, 2009 0:34:32 GMT -5
So. Time travel is a concept that has been done over and over and over again in movies, Tv, Radio, Books...pretty much ever facet of media there is.
So can you think of any examples where the basic idea of how the time travel takes place is just horrible.
Here's the worse one I can think of.
The Sandlot 3.
Luke Perry plays a major league baseball player who has become bitter over his fame.
Here's where it gets bad
One night while playing he gets hit in the face with a fastball after he is distracted by some fireworks. He gets knocked out cold.
When he wakes up he is back in his childhood as a kid at the sandlot.
He relives the same moment that made him a baseball star in the first place only this time he does it differently.
when he wakes up as an Adult he finds his life has changed for the better.
I can't even fully explain how weird it is. So here's the trailer
So what are some bad examples of time travel in the media that you can think of?
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Post by Triple Kelly on Dec 7, 2009 0:44:19 GMT -5
The Dark Shadows television series had real wonky ways of time travel, where they'd find time portals in their house (apparently we all have these and don't look hard enough) and completely f*** with the timeline yet somehow not blow up the whole universe by creating contradictory events that result in different future outcomes.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 7, 2009 0:47:41 GMT -5
Superman spinning the Earth backward for two reasons
1) There's just no way to even begin to explain how that would possibly work on any level and
2) if you can do that, where's the conflict in any area of his life.
I love Supes, obviously with the av, the tattoo I got etc, but the ending of that first movie was just a bad, bad idea.
Edit: I guess technically he was just traveling to 'five minutes ago' but it was still back in time, so I'm counting it.
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Post by Throwback on Dec 7, 2009 0:57:21 GMT -5
I'm sorry but I think it's going to be hard to find something worse than.
getting hit with baseball while looking at fireworks, Waking up with mind of present and body of past.
Oh yeah, and to go back to the present. He had to get hit in the face with a ball while looking into fireworks again.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 7, 2009 0:58:48 GMT -5
What was the explanation for Flight of the Navigator? Seemed like that one was hokey.. though he may've just been on the ship, I haven't seen that in at least twenty years.
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Post by Sarsaparilla on Dec 7, 2009 1:00:48 GMT -5
Life On Mars. He's in 1973 for NO REASON, and then everything has to be a reference to the fact that it's 1973.
"Where's my Jeep?"
"Jeep? You own a military vehicle?"
"Erm... where's my cell?"
"Sell?! What are you trying to sell?"
"Where's my computer?"
"A computer? Like HAL, from 2001: A Space Odyssey?"
"He's going to get us in more trouble than George Carlin and his seven dirty words that can't be said on television! Because, you know, IT'S 1973 AND THAT'S A RELEVANT REFERENCE BECAUSE HE'S STILL ALIVE AND ISN'T THE BITTER OLD MAN THAT HE'LL TURN OUT TO BE."
Could've been the best show on TV, but noooo.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Dec 7, 2009 1:09:16 GMT -5
I thought there was an unspoken agreement not to talk about Sandlot 3
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Post by craigdanbeaton on Dec 7, 2009 1:12:45 GMT -5
Life On Mars. He's in 1973 for NO REASON, and then everything has to be a reference to the fact that it's 1973. "Where's my Jeep?" "Jeep? You own a military vehicle?" "Erm... where's my cell?" "Sell?! What are you trying to sell?" "Where's my computer?" "A computer? Like HAL, from 2001: A Space Odyssey?" "He's going to get us in more trouble than George Carlin and his seven dirty words that can't be said on television! Because, you know, IT'S 1973 AND THAT'S A RELEVANT REFERENCE BECAUSE HE'S STILL ALIVE AND ISN'T THE BITTER OLD MAN THAT HE'LL TURN OUT TO BE." Could've been the best show on TV, but noooo. The original British version explained it all much better (MAJOR SPOILERS THAT RUIN THE WHOLE SHOW AHEAD): {Spoiler}In the end it turns out Sam didn't travel back in time instead he's been in a coma this whole time, however at the end of the series after waking from the coma he realises he hates the real world in comparison to this and so the show ends with him commiting suicide by jumping off a building so he can bo back to the 70s.. Oh and it was overall more gritty and less.... well dumb like the American version. Acctually the UK Life On Mars is my favourite show ever. |
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Post by Goldenbane on Dec 7, 2009 1:20:01 GMT -5
Superman spinning the Earth backward for two reasons 1) There's just no way to even begin to explain how that would possibly work on any level and 2) if you can do that, where's the conflict in any area of his life. I love Supes, obviously with the av, the tattoo I got etc, but the ending of that first movie was just a bad, bad idea. Edit: I guess technically he was just traveling to 'five minutes ago' but it was still back in time, so I'm counting it. It's worse when you think that...in the Donner Cut of Superman II, he does it AGAIN!! Personally I think the Terminator has the worst time travel continuity imaginable: 1. In the first movie, Skynet started out as just a satallite that the humans blew up and WON THE WAR against the machines. The battle between the Terminator and Kyle Reese was one very last desperate attempt on the part of Skynet to try to kill John Conners and hopefully get a victory out of the war. It failed. 2. In the second movie Skynet is now described as a super computer...not much harder to destroy than a satallite...but still...and it is now revealed that it sent TWO Terminators back in time...the one from the first movie...and the T-1000 in hope that if Sarah survives the first Terminator, at least the T-1000 could easily take out John as a child. Again, it failed. Thanks to the good Terminator, the Conners gain critical information on who would ultimately create Skynet...and what Skynet was created from. (The study of parts from the first destroyed Terminator). The Conners destroy the man who would create Skynet...the arm...and the chip...leaving absolutely nothing for study and thus not allowing Skynet to ever be created. 3. Skynet once again is revealed to have sent ANOTHER Terminator back in time...supposedly to either kill Conners or...something...it's been a while since I've seen the third one. This time Skynet is described as a god-like computer VIRUS (thus pretty much impossible to ever destroy). Despite absolutely critical pieces missing, the military is somehow able to still invent Skynet. Not only that, but the newest Terminator reveals himself to only obey John Conner's WIFE...who reprogrammed him after he killed John Conner. It's also revealed that the sacrafise of Kyle Reese meant absolutely nothing as that WASN'T actually the last desperate ploy by Skynet...the humans didn't win the war after all...that the future is inevitable no matter what. Of course some of the most instrumental generals in Conner's future army are all assassinated...completely contradicting the statement that "the future is set in stone...you can only delay it a while." Were that true, all those generals would have survived having their heads blown off and just been sent to the hospital to recover...and "join Conner's army later...as the future is written in stone and can only be delayed." (And considered all those people's brains are splattered all over the floor...I find it unlikely that they can just recover) This latest Terminator then kills all suspension of disbelief with the revealation that John Conners dies...in the first two movies, Conner saves himself by sending protectors...but when he is to die...despite KNOWING how and why he'll die (he sees the Terminator and thinks its his buddy from the 2nd movie or whatever) he will do nothing to save himself. Forunately the fourth movie had no time travel...and I can only hope that future installments will reveal that perhaps Conners faked his death at the hands of the 3rd Arnold Terminator for unknown reasons. Time Travel in Terminator is an absolute mess. |
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Post by psychotix5000 on Dec 7, 2009 1:25:34 GMT -5
Timecop. need I say more?
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Post by Sarsaparilla on Dec 7, 2009 1:39:47 GMT -5
The original British version explained it all much better (MAJOR SPOILERS THAT RUIN THE WHOLE SHOW AHEAD): {Spoiler}In the end it turns out Sam didn't travel back in time instead he's been in a coma this whole time, however at the end of the series after waking from the coma he realises he hates the real world in comparison to this and so the show ends with him commiting suicide by jumping off a building so he can bo back to the 70s.. Oh and it was overall more gritty and less.... well dumb like the American version. Acctually the UK Life On Mars is my favourite show ever. I'm so totally sure the UK version is a billion times better. Just like The Office. It really speaks to the arrogance of American TV execs or writers, whatever, who think it has to be dumbed down to such levels. |
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Post by Throwback on Dec 7, 2009 1:46:57 GMT -5
What was the explanation for Flight of the Navigator? Seemed like that one was hokey.. though he may've just been on the ship, I haven't seen that in at least twenty years. He was in space, traveling in light years. What was a few hours for him in space was equal to 8 years on earth. {Spoiler}But it was all a dream anyway |
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Post by darbus alan on Dec 7, 2009 2:08:55 GMT -5
Time Chasers. It was among the most recent movies ever to be lampooned by the MST3k crew for a reason.
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Post by @TenaciousBe on Dec 7, 2009 3:13:58 GMT -5
The original British version explained it all much better (MAJOR SPOILERS THAT RUIN THE WHOLE SHOW AHEAD): {Spoiler}In the end it turns out Sam didn't travel back in time instead he's been in a coma this whole time, however at the end of the series after waking from the coma he realises he hates the real world in comparison to this and so the show ends with him commiting suicide by jumping off a building so he can bo back to the 70s.. Oh and it was overall more gritty and less.... well dumb like the American version. Acctually the UK Life On Mars is my favourite show ever. I'm so totally sure the UK version is a billion times better. Just like The Office. It really speaks to the arrogance of American TV execs or writers, whatever, who think it has to be dumbed down to such levels. Nah, the problem is that 95% of the American public really does need things dumbed down for them. |
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Dec 7, 2009 9:18:13 GMT -5
Life On Mars. He's in 1973 for NO REASON, and then everything has to be a reference to the fact that it's 1973. "Where's my Jeep?" "Jeep? You own a military vehicle?" "Erm... where's my cell?" "Sell?! What are you trying to sell?" "Where's my computer?" "A computer? Like HAL, from 2001: A Space Odyssey?" "He's going to get us in more trouble than George Carlin and his seven dirty words that can't be said on television! Because, you know, IT'S 1973 AND THAT'S A RELEVANT REFERENCE BECAUSE HE'S STILL ALIVE AND ISN'T THE BITTER OLD MAN THAT HE'LL TURN OUT TO BE." Could've been the best show on TV, but noooo. The original British version explained it all much better (MAJOR SPOILERS THAT RUIN THE WHOLE SHOW AHEAD): {Spoiler}In the end it turns out Sam didn't travel back in time instead he's been in a coma this whole time, however at the end of the series after waking from the coma he realises he hates the real world in comparison to this and so the show ends with him commiting suicide by jumping off a building so he can bo back to the 70s.. Oh and it was overall more gritty and less.... well dumb like the American version. Acctually the UK Life On Mars is my favourite show ever. Although {Spoiler}Ashes to Ashes makes it like this whole dream world or something which is supposed to be explained in the next series. The big fix in the Doctor Who tv movie. I appriciate the producer Philip Segal and writer Matthew Jacobs for working in things like the Fourth Doctor's scarf, the sonic screwdriver, the cloister bell and championing to get a reworked version of the iconic theme in there but they have no idea how time machines work, like at all. |
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Post by Triple Kelly on Dec 7, 2009 9:53:09 GMT -5
It's worse when you think that...in the Donner Cut of Superman II, he does it AGAIN!! Well the thing with the Donner Cut is that spinning the world was originally going to be in JUST the 2nd film (because both originally were going to run concurrent with no gaps in time) but Donner changed his mind and put it in the first movie and said "we'll think of something else for the 2nd one". But before that could happen, he was fired and Lester brought in. And they just put it back in for the DVD because that was all they had to go on. But I do find it funny that if you follow Donner's idea that he spins the world around in the 2nd movie, then technically Superman's getting revenge on the bully in the diner that doesn't even remember kicking his ass because it didn't happen now. |
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Post by Big L on Dec 7, 2009 10:18:35 GMT -5
Hey don't u talk about my movie the sandlot buddy!!
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Post by Bo Rida on Dec 7, 2009 10:55:57 GMT -5
The original British version explained it all much better (MAJOR SPOILERS THAT RUIN THE WHOLE SHOW AHEAD): {Spoiler}In the end it turns out Sam didn't travel back in time instead he's been in a coma this whole time, however at the end of the series after waking from the coma he realises he hates the real world in comparison to this and so the show ends with him commiting suicide by jumping off a building so he can bo back to the 70s.. Oh and it was overall more gritty and less.... well dumb like the American version. Acctually the UK Life On Mars is my favourite show ever. I'm so totally sure the UK version is a billion times better. Just like The Office. It really speaks to the arrogance of American TV execs or writers, whatever, who think it has to be dumbed down to such levels. It's my favourite show ever too. However I can see why they had to dumb it down: {Spoiler} I've read that portraying suicide in a positive way wouldn't be allowed on American TV. |
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Post by dsriggs on Dec 7, 2009 11:01:43 GMT -5
Any movie where you can effect the future by doing stuff.
If you're going back in time, you've technically already done all the stuff you're going to do years before, and don't need to worry about the ramifications.
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Post by Bo Rida on Dec 7, 2009 11:06:47 GMT -5
I still don't get Harry Potter 3, {Spoiler}He would have had his soul sucked out by dementors the first time around so wouldn't have been in any condition to go back in time.
Can anyone explain it? I'm not so good with the laws of time travel so it may make sense. I think Dr Who explains it best, wibby wobbly, timey wimey stuff. |
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