Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Dec 7, 2009 12:47:56 GMT -5
Superman spinning the Earth backward for two reasons
1) There's just no way to even begin to explain how that would possibly work on any level and
2) if you can do that, where's the conflict in any area of his life.
I love Supes, obviously with the av, the tattoo I got etc, but the ending of that first movie was just a bad, bad idea.
Edit: I guess technically he was just traveling to 'five minutes ago' but it was still back in time, so I'm counting it.
It's worse when you think that...in the Donner Cut of Superman II, he does it AGAIN!!
Personally I think the Terminator has the worst time travel continuity imaginable:
1. In the first movie, Skynet started out as just a satallite that the humans blew up and WON THE WAR against the machines. The battle between the Terminator and Kyle Reese was one very last desperate attempt on the part of Skynet to try to kill John Conners and hopefully get a victory out of the war. It failed.
2. In the second movie Skynet is now described as a super computer...not much harder to destroy than a satallite...but still...and it is now revealed that it sent TWO Terminators back in time...the one from the first movie...and the T-1000 in hope that if Sarah survives the first Terminator, at least the T-1000 could easily take out John as a child. Again, it failed. Thanks to the good Terminator, the Conners gain critical information on who would ultimately create Skynet...and what Skynet was created from. (The study of parts from the first destroyed Terminator). The Conners destroy the man who would create Skynet...the arm...and the chip...leaving absolutely nothing for study and thus not allowing Skynet to ever be created.
3. Skynet once again is revealed to have sent ANOTHER Terminator back in time...supposedly to either kill Conners or...something...it's been a while since I've seen the third one. This time Skynet is described as a god-like computer VIRUS (thus pretty much impossible to ever destroy). Despite absolutely critical pieces missing, the military is somehow able to still invent Skynet. Not only that, but the newest Terminator reveals himself to only obey John Conner's WIFE...who reprogrammed him after he killed John Conner. It's also revealed that the sacrafise of Kyle Reese meant absolutely nothing as that WASN'T actually the last desperate ploy by Skynet...the humans didn't win the war after all...that the future is inevitable no matter what. Of course some of the most instrumental generals in Conner's future army are all assassinated...completely contradicting the statement that "the future is set in stone...you can only delay it a while." Were that true, all those generals would have survived having their heads blown off and just been sent to the hospital to recover...and "join Conner's army later...as the future is written in stone and can only be delayed." (And considered all those people's brains are splattered all over the floor...I find it unlikely that they can just recover) This latest Terminator then kills all suspension of disbelief with the revealation that John Conners dies...in the first two movies, Conner saves himself by sending protectors...but when he is to die...despite KNOWING how and why he'll die (he sees the Terminator and thinks its his buddy from the 2nd movie or whatever) he will do nothing to save himself.
Forunately the fourth movie had no time travel...and I can only hope that future installments will reveal that perhaps Conners faked his death at the hands of the 3rd Arnold Terminator for unknown reasons. Time Travel in Terminator is an absolute mess.
Actually, the time problem between 1 and 2 isn't so bad, and I'll tell you why.
The Skynet of the first movie was the result of technological advances made over the course of many years, the most advanced of them being a satellite. Having the peak of that technology sent back in time to be found by someone would accelerate the technological advances that led to Skynet, and thus make it possible to change the nature of it from a satellite to a supercomputer, since the Terminator's chip represented a giant leap forward in computer processors. It would be like sending a guy with a Tommy gun back to the Civil War period. Our weapons technology would be more advanced today, and they'd probably look different.
Oh, and my vote goes to Bill and Ted. Guy from the future goes back in time to make sure that something that obviously did happen, happens again. There's no conflicting influence that would make it so that history would change, nope. Just temporal micromanagement.