All purpose Tiger Woods thread

[mattperiolat]

I agree, I could care less why he was driving at that hour, I'm more concerned over what happened once he started driving. If he did have a medical event, what's going to prevent it from happening again?

He also can't have been going very fast, otherwise the air bags would have activated, right?

[toddpolt]

For all we know, he swerved to avoid a cat/dog/something, or hell maybe even had a bee/wasp in the car and he lost control.

It happens.

[Desi]

TMZ.com's report sounds like it was a domestic issue between Tiger and his wife:

Multiple law enforcement sources tell TMZ Tiger Woods' early morning accident came right after an argument with his wife, Elin Nordegren.

We're told Elin told cops about the argument at the scene of the accident and Tiger gave the same story to authorities at the hospital where he was treated.

One Florida law enforcement official called it "a domestic issue."

Elin apparently was able to forgive and forget -- according to Windermere Police Chief Daniel Saylor, Nordegren smashed out the back window of Tiger's car to help get him out.

UPDATE -- We're told the Florida Highway Patrol went to Tiger's house this afternoon to talk to him about the accident -- but they were turned away by his wife, who said he was sleeping. The FHP plans to try and talk to Woods again tomorrow.

I'll take it with a grain of salt until more reputable sources come in, but with the rumors of him cheating on his wife, I wouldn't be too shocked if this ended up being the case....

[biafra]

I personally have driven off after arguments with my ex wife at that hour; and it's probably only the grace of God or luck i didn't get into an accident.

[Insomniac]

Nov 27, 2009 20:14:48 GMT -5 Desi said:

TMZ.com's report sounds like it was a domestic issue between Tiger and his wife:

Multiple law enforcement sources tell TMZ Tiger Woods' early morning accident came right after an argument with his wife, Elin Nordegren.

We're told Elin told cops about the argument at the scene of the accident and Tiger gave the same story to authorities at the hospital where he was treated.

One Florida law enforcement official called it "a domestic issue."

Elin apparently was able to forgive and forget -- according to Windermere Police Chief Daniel Saylor, Nordegren smashed out the back window of Tiger's car to help get him out.

UPDATE -- We're told the Florida Highway Patrol went to Tiger's house this afternoon to talk to him about the accident -- but they were turned away by his wife, who said he was sleeping. The FHP plans to try and talk to Woods again tomorrow.

I'll take it with a grain of salt until more reputable sources come in, but with the rumors of him cheating on his wife, I wouldn't be too shocked if this ended up being the case....

That's exactly what I was thinking. Obviously you have to take reports from TMZ and the Enquirer with a grain of salt, but there are a couple parts of this story that confuse me. Like why his wife immediately ran outside with a golf club in hand upon hearing the crash. Or why she broke the back window to pull him out instead of hitting either of the front windows, unlocking the door, and getting him out that way.

I think it's entirely possible that it was something as simple as swerving to avoid hitting an animal in the road, or having a medical situation in the car. But I think it's just as possible that there's more to this than meets the eye. Strikes me as a bizarre story.

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Nov 27, 2009 19:15:22 GMT -5 mattperiolat said:

He also can't have been going very fast, otherwise the air bags would have activated, right?

Yeah, the standard speed a vehicle has to travel to have the air bags activate is 33 mph.

[Red Lion]

Sky News dropped their other stories and had random vaguely related aerial views of whatever for hours. Must be a slow news day for them to do that, seeing as he's totally fine and all.

[mattperiolat]

Nov 27, 2009 20:19:57 GMT -5 @beau99 said:

Nov 27, 2009 19:15:22 GMT -5 mattperiolat said:

He also can't have been going very fast, otherwise the air bags would have activated, right?

Yeah, the standard speed a vehicle has to travel to have the air bags activate is 33 mph.

Yeah, given we think it was the house next door, he wouldn't have had time to gather speed. Just enough to displace the fire hydrant and get stopped by the tree.

[BRV]

Let's just say I believe virtually nothing from the police report, other than "there was a car accident".

From the moment I heard about this story, something about it just didn't sound right. I mean, why would Tiger Woods be leaving his home at 2 a.m. on the morning after Thanksgiving? Did he want to beat the rest of the public to Best Buy or Wal-Mart?

And then there was the factor of him hitting a fire hydrant and a tree in a single-car accident. At 2 in the morning. I don't want to imply anything, but let's just say that he had to have been impaired in some way, shape or form to suddenly smash into a fire hydrant.

Then I heard the story about his wife having the wherewithal to hear an accident outside, then run out with a golf club and heroically save the day. By smashing the BACK window. Once again, I don't want to imply anything, but I mean, come on...

And all of this coming two days after there were reports that Tiger Woods has been cheating on his wife. Let's just say the puzzle is slowly piecing itself together. This is not at all the last time we hear the last of this story in the coming days.

[toddpolt]

Nov 27, 2009 20:18:40 GMT -5 Insomniac said:

That's exactly what I was thinking. Obviously you have to take reports from TMZ and the Enquirer with a grain of salt, but there are a couple parts of this story that confuse me. Like why his wife immediately ran outside with a golf club in hand upon hearing the crash.

Err umm ahhh........he's a golfer?

[Insomniac]

Nov 27, 2009 23:31:32 GMT -5 toddpolt said:

Nov 27, 2009 20:18:40 GMT -5 Insomniac said:

That's exactly what I was thinking. Obviously you have to take reports from TMZ and the Enquirer with a grain of salt, but there are a couple parts of this story that confuse me. Like why his wife immediately ran outside with a golf club in hand upon hearing the crash.

Err umm ahhh........he's a golfer?

Yeah, he's a golfer, so he probably has golf clubs lying around the house. But to hear a noise outside and instinctively run to find a golf club? I just don't buy it. And it still doesn't explain why she tried to smash in the back window of the car to get him out.

This piece on Deadspin seems to sum up my thoughts (language):

So according to the fine, upstanding, Windermere police department, Tiger's wife, Elin, heard the crash outside their mansion and had the wherewithal to wisely grab a golf club before she ran out the door just in case she happened upon an emergency situation. (In Sweden, golf clubs are the Jaws of Life.) Luckily she did — because who knows what would have happened to Tiger had she not acted so quickly. Remember — he ran over a fire hydrant. Although plenty of wacky slapstick family movies use this as a cheap visual gag when they run out of other ways to emphasize a character's bad luck, this is a dire situation in real life. He could have sat there all night, with serious-not-serious facial lacerations and possibly drowned. That's why she smashed the back window of the SUV — the gallons of water violently gushing into the vehicle could have killed him instantly had she gone through the front windshield or tried to, you know, get Tiger to unlock the driver's side door. She needed to climb through the back, grab her 200lb. husband by the collar and drag him to safety. Time was of the essence.

[toddpolt]

Nov 27, 2009 23:54:35 GMT -5 Insomniac said:

Nov 27, 2009 23:31:32 GMT -5 toddpolt said:

Err umm ahhh........he's a golfer?

Yeah, he's a golfer, so he probably has golf clubs lying around the house.

Its called a garage.

I mean what you expect her to pick up? A bat? A weed eater? A brick? I mean come on.

[Insomniac]

TMZ says the wife did it.

Tiger Woods did not suffer facial lacerations from a car accident. They were inflicted by his wife, Elin Nordegren -- according to a conversation Woods had Friday after the accident.

Tiger has yet to be formally interviewed by the Florida Highway Patrol -- that should happen this afternoon. But we're told Tiger had a conversation Friday -- with a non-law enforcement type -- detailing what went down before his Escalade hit a fire hydrant.

We're told he said his wife had confronted him about reports that he was seeing another woman. The argument got heated and, according to our source, she scratched his face up. We're told it was then Woods beat a hasty retreat for his SUV -- but according to our source, Woods says his wife followed behind with a golf club. As Tiger drove away, she struck the vehicle several times with the club.

Pretty much exactly what I thought.

[mattperiolat]

I'm actually wondering if she heard the crash, looked outside, saw the situation, THEN grabbed the club.

Guys, we'll get the facts over time. I will say the one thing that really raises my eyebrows is not letting the police talk to Tiger once he got home. If he was hurt enough where he couldn't be disturbed, he shouldn't have been released from the hospital.

[BRV]

Nov 28, 2009 0:13:08 GMT -5 Insomniac said:

TMZ says the wife did it.

Tiger Woods did not suffer facial lacerations from a car accident. They were inflicted by his wife, Elin Nordegren -- according to a conversation Woods had Friday after the accident.

Tiger has yet to be formally interviewed by the Florida Highway Patrol -- that should happen this afternoon. But we're told Tiger had a conversation Friday -- with a non-law enforcement type -- detailing what went down before his Escalade hit a fire hydrant.

We're told he said his wife had confronted him about reports that he was seeing another woman. The argument got heated and, according to our source, she scratched his face up. We're told it was then Woods beat a hasty retreat for his SUV -- but according to our source, Woods says his wife followed behind with a golf club. As Tiger drove away, she struck the vehicle several times with the club.

Pretty much exactly what I thought.

After they said that alcohol was not involved, this is what I was expecting. In no way was I buying the police report.

[toddpolt]

Nov 28, 2009 0:13:08 GMT -5 Insomniac said:

TMZ says the wife did it.

You mean the same TMZ that thought we all wanted to see Ric Flair's cornhole?

[tap]

Nov 27, 2009 15:47:36 GMT -5 Steveweiser said:

As the general consensus is that he's been released from hospital and is more or less fine...

I see this and raise you:

[sloride]

Nov 28, 2009 0:18:55 GMT -5 toddpolt said:

Nov 28, 2009 0:13:08 GMT -5 Insomniac said:

TMZ says the wife did it.

You mean the same TMZ that thought we all wanted to see Ric Flair's cornhole?

Apparently so. That was something I really didn't want to see. At all.

[Grendel]

Nov 28, 2009 0:37:13 GMT -5 @tap said:

Nov 27, 2009 15:47:36 GMT -5 Steveweiser said:

As the general consensus is that he's been released from hospital and is more or less fine...

I see this and raise you:

Excellent work.

[ani]

Nov 28, 2009 0:13:08 GMT -5 Insomniac said:

TMZ says the wife did it.

Tiger Woods did not suffer facial lacerations from a car accident. They were inflicted by his wife, Elin Nordegren -- according to a conversation Woods had Friday after the accident.

Tiger has yet to be formally interviewed by the Florida Highway Patrol -- that should happen this afternoon. But we're told Tiger had a conversation Friday -- with a non-law enforcement type -- detailing what went down before his Escalade hit a fire hydrant.

We're told he said his wife had confronted him about reports that he was seeing another woman. The argument got heated and, according to our source, she scratched his face up. We're told it was then Woods beat a hasty retreat for his SUV -- but according to our source, Woods says his wife followed behind with a golf club. As Tiger drove away, she struck the vehicle several times with the club.

Pretty much exactly what I thought.

Apparently Tiger's wife has turned Police away again:
www.tmz.com/2009/11/28/tiger-woods-elin-nordegren-crash-suv-cops-story-florida-highway-patrol/

Isn't she pretty much holding him hostage at this point? Very disturbing.