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Post by Michael Coello on Dec 10, 2009 9:24:29 GMT -5
I guess that's good for them, considering that the game is getting hyped as the second coming over there in Japan. Would be bad to have all that promotion, and it ends up being Daikatana. {Spoiler}And I'm surprised I got the spelling of that right the first time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2009 10:36:45 GMT -5
the main complaint I kept hearing about 12 was that it didn't have a gooey teen love story that people were used to. and really, people are getting angry at a 39/40 a NEAR PERFECT SCORE ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR PEOPLE?! COME THE f*** ON! I really didn't have an issue with it not being a "gooey teen love story". my issue was that in the early previews they said it wasn't going to be. That's a gigantic spoiler if there ever was one. I mean, I guess in the FF lore it's easy to assume it'll be that way (though VII gave one hell of a f*** you to it by killing off Aeris) but you just do NOT give that big of a teaser to the story, especially in a game so story driven as a Final Fantasy game. But I do agree with arguing about the score. The GameTrailers users are stupefyingly obsessed with review scores, to the point where they will take a score from a whole different game in a whole different genre on a whole different system and complain that the game being reviewed is better than that. I never pay much attention to scores, I just pay attention to the review itself. I wanna make sure the advertised features do what they make me think it's gonna do (and then some in other cases), if it controls well, if it lacks any significant slow points (where nothing happens or you gain nothing cool/useful for a long time) and if there are any graphic glitches (graphics aren't huge with me, but if it clips alot, slows down, and affects gameplay then you've lost me as a buyer). If a game can pull those four things off, I will at least rent it and try it out.
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Post by J is Thunder Justice on Dec 10, 2009 11:47:09 GMT -5
exactly what was everyones problem with Final Fantasy 12? I throughly enjoyed it and eagerly anticipate this new one. The gameplay itself was fun as all hell, IMO. But the story wasn't developed well enough and Balthier and Basch were the only party members I found truly interesting. Same for me. Well, except Balthier's the only one I liked. Edit: Actually, swap Basch for Ashe.
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Post by Kroot bringing Justice on Dec 10, 2009 18:06:01 GMT -5
The gameplay itself was fun as all hell, IMO. But the story wasn't developed well enough and Balthier and Basch were the only party members I found truly interesting. My opinion is this, except for the gameplay. Honestly, I thought the Gambit system was f***ing stupid. The game basically played itself. [Sad Cockney Accent]...it's an insult to the Cajun, it is.[/SCA]IT only played itself if you played it that way.
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 10, 2009 18:28:17 GMT -5
I'm a huge Final Fantasy fan but...12 hurt me. A lot. It's gonna take a lot to get me interested in 13.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 10, 2009 19:24:19 GMT -5
Famitsu can't be taken serious. Why? Because "reviewers" in Japan aren't critical. Or at least not as critical as reviewers across the rest of the world. Famitsu tends to praise even games they give terrible scores to. Completely and totally right. Famitsu's reviews are worth precisely dick. They'll give great scores and reviews to games as a courtesy to how anticipated they are or how well they know people who developed it. In Japan, Famitsu is seen as the gaming news magazine. They're a great source for breaking news and tons of info and screens on newly announced and other upcoming games. It's just that certain gaijin put Famitsu's scores on undeserved pedestals because of how well known they are (and probably the only Japanese gaming magazine they know of). But for reviews, Dengeki is a lot more reliable as they actually will review the games and at least go into some more depth than the two or three sentences a typical Famitsu review has. I'm a huge Final Fantasy fan but...12 hurt me. A lot. It's gonna take a lot to get me interested in 13. To be fair, FF12 and 13 have two entirely different development teams. How'd you feel about FFX, because it's a very similar team to that one? EDIT: Sorry if the above came across as condescending or patronizing. The undue reverence some people put on Famitsu's reviews is a pet peeve of mine.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 11, 2009 11:10:43 GMT -5
Opinions homes. And for whats it worth the only thing thats a letdown with XIII for me the combat system. I adored the combat system in XII. Made a game I thought was fun as hell all ready even more so when I got my Gambits down. I found FF12 to be a beautiful looking game with some genuinely cool characters and a good story that actually felt different from other FF games, with a ridiculously convoluted battle system that sucked all the fun out of the game.
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Post by thuschongswing on Dec 11, 2009 14:55:34 GMT -5
Opinions homes. And for whats it worth the only thing thats a letdown with XIII for me the combat system. I adored the combat system in XII. Made a game I thought was fun as hell all ready even more so when I got my Gambits down. I found FF12 to be a beautiful looking game with some genuinely cool characters and a good story that actually felt different from other FF games, with a ridiculously convoluted battle system that sucked all the fun out of the game. Give this man a gold medal, because this is EXACTLY how I feel about FF12. I've only gotten past the first 'mission' you get in Ivalice, and it's been that way for three years. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Having been somewhat burned by that game, I'm still looking forward to FF13 with bated breath.
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Post by thwak is T.hawk on Dec 11, 2009 15:29:48 GMT -5
well if you like persona 3's battle system, but thought it should be active time, you might like FF XIII's battle system
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 12, 2009 2:43:51 GMT -5
Famitsu can't be taken serious. Why? Because "reviewers" in Japan aren't critical. Or at least not as critical as reviewers across the rest of the world. Famitsu tends to praise even games they give terrible scores to. Completely and totally right. Famitsu's reviews are worth precisely dick. They'll give great scores and reviews to games as a courtesy to how anticipated they are or how well they know people who developed it. In Japan, Famitsu is seen as the gaming news magazine. They're a great source for breaking news and tons of info and screens on newly announced and other upcoming games. It's just that certain gaijin put Famitsu's scores on undeserved pedestals because of how well known they are (and probably the only Japanese gaming magazine they know of). But for reviews, Dengeki is a lot more reliable as they actually will review the games and at least go into some more depth than the two or three sentences a typical Famitsu review has. I'm a huge Final Fantasy fan but...12 hurt me. A lot. It's gonna take a lot to get me interested in 13. To be fair, FF12 and 13 have two entirely different development teams. How'd you feel about FFX, because it's a very similar team to that one? EDIT: Sorry if the above came across as condescending or patronizing. The undue reverence some people put on Famitsu's reviews is a pet peeve of mine. I loved Final Fantasy X. 2nd or 3rd favourite in the series for me. I'm glad it's the same team. well if you like persona 3's battle system, but thought it should be active time, you might like FF XIII's battle system Ugh, I really hate that the series is going a real-time battle route. Call me old fashioned, but I think the FF games should be turn-based only. I'm guessing this also means more AI-controlled allies. ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png) NO.
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Post by Threadkiller [Classic] on Dec 12, 2009 3:30:03 GMT -5
I actually thought 12 was a masterpiece. An absolute masterpiece. Until the last quarter of the game. Everything just COMPLETELY fell apart in the final act. It's like they stopped caring about making the story interesting, and it all came together in an extraordinarily bland, unmemorable conclusion. I was SO disappointed in how that game ended. That said, the first 3/4 of the game is among my favorite of all-time. Just masterful game-making, storytelling, and character development. I loved the environments, the battle system, the license board, the quickenings system, even the assigned summons and sidequests. To be honest, my complaints about the last quarter were just story-related and the fact that the final bosses presented no challenge to me whatsoever. Here's hoping 13 is an improvement.
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