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Post by Agent P on Nov 16, 2009 11:44:19 GMT -5
I am sure I am far from the first person to mention this, but the last young star that Vince McMahon gave his personal endorsement to was Elijah Burke who fizzled out quickly afterwards. Will this happen to Drew?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2009 11:47:57 GMT -5
Hopefully. Still sour over the way Burke went down, but I'm personally a-okay with aborting Reba's push.
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Post by angryfan on Nov 16, 2009 11:52:17 GMT -5
I am sure I am far from the first person to mention this, but the last young star that Vince McMahon gave his personal endorsement to was Elijah Burke who fizzled out quickly afterwards. Will this happen to Drew? I'd argue it was more that they stopped giving him anything to do rather than just fizzling out, but I do agree that there are definite similarities there. Charismatic, good talker, athletic, and gets a reaction. Somehow, this means "stop doing anything with them" to creative, and I'm not sure why. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 16, 2009 11:53:05 GMT -5
It's possible, but it's most likely what will happen if he gets done what happened to Burke: being overshadowed by a new hot prospect, like Punk was.
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Post by Convoy on Nov 16, 2009 11:55:39 GMT -5
Didn't Burke also make the mistake of insulting the company on Ghost Hunters by complaining about the Diva Search?
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Post by angryfan on Nov 16, 2009 11:56:58 GMT -5
Didn't Burke also make the mistake of insulting the company on Ghost Hunters by complaining about the Diva Search? That I'm not sure of, as I never saw the GH episode he was on. If so, that explains quite a lot. Hell, if he would've saved it for actual WWE programming, it would've gotten over. |
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Post by Agent P on Nov 16, 2009 11:57:22 GMT -5
Didn't Burke also make the mistake of insulting the company on Ghost Hunters by complaining about the Diva Search? That was also after his push was over. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 16, 2009 11:59:42 GMT -5
Didn't Burke also make the mistake of insulting the company on Ghost Hunters by complaining about the Diva Search? That was also after his push was over. His push was over, but he also wasn't in a spot that there was no coming back from. Hell, Punk got pinned by Holly of all people, and he's doing well for himself. |
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Post by Agent P on Nov 16, 2009 12:04:47 GMT -5
That was also after his push was over. His push was over, but he also wasn't in a spot that there was no coming back from. Hell, Punk got pinned by Holly of all people, and he's doing well for himself. Be happy you weren't a member of the Board when Holly was the one to break Punk's undefeated streak. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 16, 2009 12:05:56 GMT -5
His push was over, but he also wasn't in a spot that there was no coming back from. Hell, Punk got pinned by Holly of all people, and he's doing well for himself. Be happy you weren't a member of the Board when Holly was the one to break Punk's undefeated streak. I was at the least already lurking by then, so I at least saw the meltdown. ;D |
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Post by angryfan on Nov 16, 2009 12:07:26 GMT -5
His push was over, but he also wasn't in a spot that there was no coming back from. Hell, Punk got pinned by Holly of all people, and he's doing well for himself. Be happy you weren't a member of the Board when Holly was the one to break Punk's undefeated streak. That whole match was a combination of a ton of stuff that everyone hated. Everyone wanted Punk or RVD, but those were teh first two eliminated. Punk looked like crap, so people complained about that. He got pinned by a perinnial midcarder with a bad rep, so people complained about that. We were left with Bathurd/Big Show as a final pair, so peole complained about that. THen Bathurd went over, and peole complained about that. It was the perfect storm if bitching was shipwrecks. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 16, 2009 12:08:36 GMT -5
Be happy you weren't a member of the Board when Holly was the one to break Punk's undefeated streak. That whole match was a combination of a ton of stuff that everyone hated. Everyone wanted Punk or RVD, but those were teh first two eliminated. Punk looked like crap, so people complained about that. He got pinned by a perinnial midcarder with a bad rep, so people complained about that. We were left with Bathurd/Big Show as a final pair, so peole complained about that. THen Bathurd went over, and peole complained about that. It was the perfect storm if bitching was shipwrecks. Agreed. Not to mention Holly pinning Punk clean not soon after in a one-on-one for no discernible reason, other than a poorly thought out feud. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2009 12:08:56 GMT -5
Be happy you weren't a member of the Board when Holly was the one to break Punk's undefeated streak. That whole match was a combination of a ton of stuff that everyone hated. Everyone wanted Punk or RVD, but those were teh first two eliminated. Punk looked like crap, so people complained about that. He got pinned by a perinnial midcarder with a bad rep, so people complained about that. We were left with Bathurd/Big Show as a final pair, so peole complained about that. THen Bathurd went over, and peole complained about that. It was the perfect storm if bitching was shipwrecks. I think that's more referring to when Punk was beaten by Holly two days after that. Still, yeah, all of December to Dismember besides the opener was loaded with stuff to bitch about. And even then, the MNM / Hardys feud suffered from the problem that at no point did Nitro (whatever happened to him?) or Mercury look the slightest bit credible against the Hardys. |
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Post by Agent P on Nov 16, 2009 12:09:46 GMT -5
That whole match was a combination of a ton of stuff that everyone hated. Everyone wanted Punk or RVD, but those were teh first two eliminated. Punk looked like crap, so people complained about that. He got pinned by a perinnial midcarder with a bad rep, so people complained about that. We were left with Bathurd/Big Show as a final pair, so peole complained about that. THen Bathurd went over, and peole complained about that. It was the perfect storm if bitching was shipwrecks. Agreed. Not to mention Holly pinning Punk clean not soon after in a one-on-one for no discernible reason, other than a poorly thought out feud. The one on one match is the one I am refering to and not the Extreme Elimination Chamber. |
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Post by H-Fist on Nov 16, 2009 12:15:36 GMT -5
That was also after his push was over. His push was over, but he also wasn't in a spot that there was no coming back from. Hell, Punk got pinned by Holly of all people, and he's doing well for himself. WWE was of the opinion that losing to Bob Holly wasn't that big a deal, though. They held him in high esteem as a company man and translated that into in-ring success. They figured, since he was their "proving ground"/tough guy, that a loss to him wouldn't hurt someone in the fans' eyes. I didn't get to see a whole lot of Burke, since I was working nights during much of his real push, so I can't weigh heavily on this specific subject. I think that McIntyre definitely has the look (Burke, too). He has some decent mannerisms in the ring, but seems to play them over the top right now. He might be able to grow out of that. He also can deliver his lines decently, and I won't hold WWE "Creative"'s poor-to-middling writing ("I 'ate parties. I 'ate dogs. I 'ate their poo.") against him. As far as his work in the ring, it needs work. If he had some territories to grow in rather than FCW and Smackdown, he might be able to gain that success. Same deal as Burke, really. That's why Punk has been so successful. That's why Danielson is projected so highly. That's why McGuinness/Wolfe in TNA has come in so strongly. That's why Bourne has gotten over despite WWE's poor use of him. They gained tons of indie experience. Punk and Bourne used developmental as finishing school, not wrestling school. |
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Post by Taupy on Nov 16, 2009 12:20:28 GMT -5
Drew should be okay if he don't get invite to Ghost Hunters and freaks out, or if he gets lost on his way to Springfield.
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Post by Lancers on Nov 16, 2009 12:20:51 GMT -5
Poor Elijah Burke. Even in his own thread he's getting overshadowed by Punk.
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Nov 16, 2009 18:14:32 GMT -5
What, you mean not live up to his potential, get released, then hit the juice and show up in TNA using his WWE house show gimmick? That would take some doing.
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Nov 16, 2009 18:31:43 GMT -5
Poor Elijah Burke. Even in his own thread he's getting overshadowed by Punk. lol. Anyway it could happen, WWE loses interest in people and if the people don't connect with him, yeah it could happen. Also, Burke>McIntyre. Burke has the look, the mic and in ring skills and he's just more charismatic then Drew. Now I think Drew could be a good upper mid carder, but not a main eventer, Burke even being on the shorter side I could've see him facing a Cena for WWE Title and people buying it. |
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Post by Dub H on Nov 16, 2009 18:40:23 GMT -5
Poor Elijah Burke. Even in his own thread he's getting overshadowed by Punk. Univer Law: Burkeh is ALWAYS overshadowed by Punk That will apply to TNA,i wouldnt be surprise that if Punk is released,TNA would hire him just to Burkeh be overshadowed |
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