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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Nov 20, 2009 18:33:32 GMT -5
I think Taker and Vince could pull it off, I mean it'd have to be a street fight or something but if Vince/Hogan can have an awesomely entertaining match then so can Vince/Taker. Also did Taker ever get his win back from Vince at Survivor Series '03?
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Post by thuschongswing on Nov 20, 2009 18:33:50 GMT -5
{Spoiler}WWE are planning to book The Undertaker vs. Basketball Jones for the World Title at the Royal Rumble, with Basketball Jones going over and taking the title to WrestleMania. They have also somewhat demoted CM Punk, though more with the aim of helping put over R-Truth and getting him closer to the main event. {Spoiler}Is this to set up Batista/Cena II?
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Post by thuschongswing on Nov 20, 2009 18:36:56 GMT -5
Cena drops the strap to Trips or Shawn and wins the Rumble, giving RAW Trips v. Shawn and Smackdown Cena v. Bats (which they have been trying to do for two years).Hey, none of this if confirmed to be true, and if anything, it could just be a storyline and nothing else. I honestly think it's unfathomable that they'd even consider going after one of their own employees because of their weight. I rarely do this, but I'm calling newz on that. This is what I get for not reading beforehand...
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Post by metylerca on Nov 20, 2009 18:40:54 GMT -5
That's a pretty cynical way to think about it. I'm just saying that the whole "Mickie James is fat!" thing is blown so much out of proportion here that the moment some 'news' piece on her being held back because her weight comes out, people are quick to jump all over it without even looking for confirmation. Nobody said she was being held back. She's in the top Diva feud on SmackDown!. The confirmation is in the segment actually happening. If they didn't want to come across as sending a message, they wouldn't do a segment like that. No point to it. There are a ton of other ways to get heat. There are a ton of other ways to build a match. Yet they chose this route, one that publicly & personally goes after somebody. A planned segment on a television show is confirmation of backstage heat? Just like when Carlito was conveniently unhappy after a loss on RAW? Or remember when they sent the message to Jeff Hardy that he was a drug addict by allowing Punk and MVP to bring up Jeff's past? It's a television show.
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Post by Bobafett on Nov 20, 2009 18:41:41 GMT -5
That's a pretty cynical way to think about it. I'm just saying that the whole "Mickie James is fat!" thing is blown so much out of proportion here that the moment some 'news' piece on her being held back because her weight comes out, people are quick to jump all over it without even looking for confirmation. Nobody said she was being held back. She's in the top Diva feud on SmackDown!. The confirmation is in the segment actually happening. If they didn't want to come across as sending a message, they wouldn't do a segment like that. No point to it. There are a ton of other ways to get heat. There are a ton of other ways to build a match. Yet they chose this route, one that publicly & personally goes after somebody. not just that, we've been hearing stuff like this for a while about them being unhappy THATS why (in my case anyway) there was such an uproar, NOT (like people tohught ) that it was McCool doing it but that it was WWE using it to send a message
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Post by Steveweiser on Nov 20, 2009 19:14:11 GMT -5
They just aired the segment in the UK. You could tell the fans were not impressed, and that Striker had a go at McCool for taking it as low as it could go. But you just knew that WWE were eager to make that segment.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2009 19:20:07 GMT -5
I actually like the idea of heel Batista heading to Mania as a champion. He has only been in two Wrestlemania World title matches and this could be the chance to put over John Morrison big time. If not he can just face Cena in which is somewhat of a fresh match. Plus it'll draw and be billed as the epic rematch from two years ago.
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 20, 2009 19:21:09 GMT -5
If it's true they were using that segment to actually "send a message", then that's an incredibly passive-aggressive, childish thing to do. But I kind of doubt that bit of news.
For what it's worth, "Batista" is the greatest word filter in the history of our sport.
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Post by Shy Guy on Nov 20, 2009 19:24:25 GMT -5
the grammar in those spoilers annoy me.
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Post by CrazySting on Nov 20, 2009 19:25:16 GMT -5
They just aired the segment in the UK. You could tell the fans were not impressed, and that Striker had a go at McCool for taking it as low as it could go. But you just knew that WWE were eager to make that segment. I can actually imagine that Piggy James was a nickname they had thrown around for a while and were incredibly eager to use it.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 20, 2009 19:57:19 GMT -5
Yeah, because the WWE has never publicly gone after somebody before... That's a pretty cynical way to think about it. I'm just saying that the whole "Mickie James is fat!" thing is blown so much out of proportion here that the moment some 'news' piece on her being held back because her weight comes out, people are quick to jump all over it without even looking for confirmation. As much as I dont give an eff what goes on with Mickie James, you cant really dispute that its quite a strange coincidence that all this news comes out for weeks that WWE are concerned with her weight and image, then an angle gets ran where a heel calls her fat and makes a big deal out of it.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Nov 20, 2009 20:11:10 GMT -5
If it's true they were using that segment to actually "send a message", then that's an incredibly passive-aggressive, childish thing to do. But I kind of doubt that bit of news. Here's the thing with that story. I would love, LOVE to say the whole thing was a giant coincidence and that it's just a way to get McCool and Layla over as mega heels against a poor defenceless Mickie James, making an impending Women's Title win all that sweeter. At the same time, I keep coming back to one point. This is the Pro Wrestling business, seemingly the only business left that is still doing incredibly petty, incredibly childish and downright stupid things to people all to either 'teach a lesson' or to 'send a message'. There are a tonne of stories about things like this accoring and being put on TV for reasons that most businesses and industries would shun at and not do at all. But if I am wrong, I'm wrong. I just have that nagging feeling. Edit: And on this Taker opponent for Mania thing, I don't want to see Vince/Taker. We don't need another 'Vince throwing his weight around, being beaten at Mania then fueds with the guy for 7 months' storylines. Vince/Piper Street Fight and Taker/Cena? I'm down for those.
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Nov 20, 2009 20:16:10 GMT -5
Interesting about Tista. I wonder who Taker will face at TLC or will Jericho, hell maybe Show get a month reign.
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Post by Rorschach on Nov 20, 2009 20:30:17 GMT -5
If it's true they were using that segment to actually "send a message", then that's an incredibly passive-aggressive, childish thing to do. But I kind of doubt that bit of news. Here's the thing with that story. I would love, LOVE to say the whole thing was a giant coincidence and that it's just a way to get McCool and Layla over as mega heels against a poor defenceless Mickie James, making an impending Women's Title win all that sweeter. At the same time, I keep coming back to one point. This is the Pro Wrestling business, seemingly the only business left that is still doing incredibly petty, incredibly childish and downright stupid things to people all to either 'teach a lesson' or to 'send a message'. There are a tonne of stories about things like this accoring and being put on TV for reasons that most businesses and industries would shun at and not do at all. But if I am wrong, I'm wrong. I just have that nagging feeling. Edit: And on this Taker opponent for Mania thing, I don't want to see Vince/Taker. We don't need another 'Vince throwing his weight around, being beaten at Mania then fueds with the guy for 7 months' storylines. Vince/Piper Street Fight and Taker/Cena? I'm down for those. This seems more along the lines of HHH going after Masters, to me. Making fun of someone for being healthy and not on drugs/diet pills/steroids just seems kind of counterproductive to me. I mean, I get the point of the angle...to draw some heat for SS and Mickie/McCool and all...and it's working. It's working wonderfully, seeing how worked up people are getting over it. But part of it seems REALLY low to me. Like, they're taking one of their few girls who doesn't look like she's got some sort of fashion model "binge/purge" thing going on, and singling her out for it? Which REALLY makes me scratch my head after seeing disc 1 of the first SURVIVOR SERIES DVD set, and the women's SS match on there featuring Moolah, The Jumping Bomb Angels, Lalaini Kai, ect...none of whom would ever pass muster in Johnny Ace's women's division. Then again, after the first disparaging remark Ace made towards Moolah regarding her weight...he might be able to pack his penis in a travel case for all overseas meetings. Point is...look at that match, and look at the girls today. The focus has shifted from being capable in ring, to being beautiful just standing there. Mickie fulfills both requirements in my eyes, but in the eyes of the current WWE, she's not what their after. Here's to hoping she just gets out of there, and either hits it big with her country CD, or heads for TNA, where even if she's not making megabucks, she'll be able to surround herself with great women's wrestlers like Hamada, Victoria, ect. /two cents.
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Post by Porky's Butthole on Nov 20, 2009 20:37:34 GMT -5
Yoko, Vader, Vis and Rhonda Singh ring a bell? The quote tag is screwy for some reason. Mod if you can fix, please do. Anyhoo, here's my reply to what Ric said: Yoko, Vader, Vis and Rhonda were FAT. Mickie is nowhere near that. I know that stuff like this can be seen 'in the eye of the beholder', but look at Mickie and look at Rhonda. Which one's fat? {Spoiler}It's Rhonda. Fixed the tag for ya ~Ric
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2009 20:39:11 GMT -5
I really wish Randy Orton locker room hero can save her. Maybe he can poop in someones handbag
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Post by Rorschach on Nov 20, 2009 20:40:11 GMT -5
Though to be fair, Buck...I'd still date Rhonda. When she wasn't being made to be the walking epitome of the fat, trailer trash welfare chick from hell, she was kind of cute.
AND she was amazingly talented in the ring, too,
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Nov 20, 2009 20:43:35 GMT -5
I'm not completely opposed to Batista in one last title feud. But just have him lose, and let this be the swan song for his career.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2009 20:48:31 GMT -5
I'm not completely opposed to Basketball Jones in one last title feud. But just have him lose, and let this be the swan song for his career. I remember he said before he retires he wants to retire heel and apparently his contract expires some time in mid 2010. Plus him retiring is one of the most reoccurring NEWZ!!!!111 stories here. So ya by putting all the straws together, he maybe done soon. If he is I'll miss the big guy. I don't understand the uber hate this guy gets.
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Post by stormwrestling on Nov 20, 2009 21:14:37 GMT -5
Punk I liked it better when 'Taker and Batista wern't around. Much preferred Jeff/Punk.
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