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Post by Rorschach on Nov 20, 2009 21:36:14 GMT -5
Punk I liked it better when 'Taker and Basketball Jones wern't around. Much preferred Jeff/Punk. Me too. At least it had two guys who can still move around fluidly, AND somewhat of an interesting story/angle.
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Post by SickFlipPiledriver on Nov 20, 2009 21:36:59 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Tonight's segment on SmackDown featuring Mickie James was designed to send a message to her that she should put wrestling first. WWE aren't happy that Mickie is going outside of the company for her country music career, and believe she's heading down the same path as the likes of The Rock and Stacy Keibler, who let their outside endeavours overtake their WWE commitments. The segment was also designed to send a message about her weight. *yawn*
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Post by Rorschach on Nov 20, 2009 21:42:28 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Tonight's segment on SmackDown featuring Mickie James was designed to send a message to her that she should put wrestling first. WWE aren't happy that Mickie is going outside of the company for her country music career, and believe she's heading down the same path as the likes of The Rock and Stacy Keibler, who let their outside endeavours overtake their WWE commitments. The segment was also designed to send a message about her weight. *yawn* Considering there's ALREADY like three threads about this, you're gonna be doing a lot of yawning for a minute, friend. ;D This s-storm is just heating up.
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Post by SickFlipPiledriver on Nov 20, 2009 22:28:51 GMT -5
I just don't get how that would work.
"We need to show Mickie why she needs to stay with us in WWE. I know, let's call her fat."
I just can't see it.
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Post by H-Fist on Nov 21, 2009 0:07:44 GMT -5
It's funny...I really, really like CM Punk. He's probably one of my top-three favorites in the company (Punk, Jericho, and Inanimate Carbon Rod). But I absolutely do not mind him moving down the card one bit. There are a few reasons:
1. Batista, Kane, Undertaker, and Big Show all make for difficult good matches at this point in their careers. It also is difficult for Punk to look credible against them. By being pulled away from the behemoths while Jericho and Mysterio take the beatings, Punk almost looks smarter in kayfabe from knowing exactly when to back off.
2. It, outside of kayfabe, keeps him fresh. Even as a midcard proselytizer, he draws as much ring-based heel heat as anybody else. But since he isn't in major feuds, there is no way to diffuse that heat. It might lessen over time as the fans get numbed to the shtick, but it can easily be rekindled by placing him in a higher profile feud.
3. Likewise out of kayfabe, it allows Punk to stay fresh beyond his current gimmick's trajectory. He's only 32, I think, which means he could have another 6 or 7 years of "prime" left. If WWE uses him as a peripheral player for 12 months or so, occasionally inserting him into the main event as a Maguffin/red herring/tangent, then they can work through the huge retirement angles involving an entire generation of talent that is likely to leave the ring in the next few years: Batista, Mysterio, Big Show, Undertaker, Kane, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Finlay, and Regal.
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Post by Porky's Butthole on Nov 21, 2009 1:23:30 GMT -5
Though to be fair, Buck...I'd still date Rhonda. When she wasn't being made to be the walking epitome of the fat, trailer trash welfare chick from hell, she was kind of cute. AND she was amazingly talented in the ring, too, I'm with ya there. Also, ya know who was really cute without all the hair shit and facepaint? Bull Nakano. Seriously.
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Post by snugglecakes on Nov 21, 2009 3:01:34 GMT -5
People actually want to see Vince vs Taker at WrestleMania? Wow.
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Post by toddpolt on Nov 21, 2009 3:07:03 GMT -5
Whats so fat about Mickie?
And if she "is," you guys saying you wouldn't drop the pants if given the chance?
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Nov 21, 2009 3:07:09 GMT -5
You all forget that Batista could always defend against some face that won the Rumble. Sure, the number of faces ready for that is slim, but what if this feud with Orton has Kofi ready for that kind of exposure by then?
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Post by toddpolt on Nov 21, 2009 3:10:22 GMT -5
Love the Kofi push to the moon, love the slow burn Morrison push.
I don't see either getting each brand's ME at WM next year.
If anything, I wonder if WWE is really worried like sick about pushing those two too far too fast, and have it derail on them.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Nov 21, 2009 3:13:19 GMT -5
Though to be fair, Buck...I'd still date Rhonda. When she wasn't being made to be the walking epitome of the fat, trailer trash welfare chick from hell, she was kind of cute. AND she was amazingly talented in the ring, too, Don't forget that anyone in the business that mentions her will speak as to how she was a great person as well.
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Nov 21, 2009 4:44:24 GMT -5
Whats so fat about Mickie? And if she "is," you guys saying you wouldn't drop the pants if given the chance? I wouldn't drop the pants if given the chance. Yes, I'm saying it.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Nov 21, 2009 4:52:50 GMT -5
You all forget that Basketball Jones could always defend against some face that won the Rumble. Sure, the number of faces ready for that is slim, but what if this feud with Orton has Kofi ready for that kind of exposure by then? Problem is, the second they turned Basketball Jones (outside of the piped in stuff), he's been getting big face reactions, which suggests that all people wanted to see was him with a little bit of personality. Turn him heel, and everybody loves him again.
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Post by Solid Stryk-Dizzle on Nov 21, 2009 5:36:08 GMT -5
He was getting big face reactions as a face. The crowd just loves him THAT much.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Nov 21, 2009 13:36:48 GMT -5
He was getting big face reactions as a face. The crowd just loves him THAT much. He needs to be paired against a hot face to change that. He has been paired against Rey, which would be a better choice if he did more than strike and run away, and Matt Hardy, which would have worked infinitely better a year ago when he was actually being pushed (granted, Matt has at least looked moderately decent against him, which is a far cry better than losing to EE a month ago). In essence, if the rumors of pairing him up with the Undertaker pans out, that might be the best thing for his heel turn.
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Post by Piccolo on Nov 21, 2009 16:31:40 GMT -5
Mickie's no more fat than, say, CM Punk or Chris Jericho. *shrugs* I don't get the whinging from WWE on this, if that's really what the segment was about. It's not taking anything away from her performance... if anything, it's the super-thin girls, like Alicia, that throw me out of the moment while I'm watching. I'm constantly worried one of her limbs is gonna snap in two.
In any case, I agree with what someone said above... the "How can we make her stay? I know, by calling her fat!" thing seems too moronic to be believable. But they can be pretty moronic sometimes, so it's hard to say.
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Post by Error on Nov 21, 2009 17:01:56 GMT -5
Yoko, Vader, Vis and Rhonda Singh ring a bell? The quote tag is screwy for some reason. Mod if you can fix, please do. Anyhoo, here's my reply to what Ric said: Yoko, Vader, Vis and Rhonda were FAT. Mickie is nowhere near that. I know that stuff like this can be seen 'in the eye of the beholder', but look at Mickie and look at Rhonda. Which one's fat? I am not saying she is their size, far from it. Hell, for a non Diva she is fine, I am just saying that when WWE thinks someone is letting themselves go, they are not above embarrassing them to make a point.
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Post by Slim Loves Lily on Nov 21, 2009 21:28:37 GMT -5
As far as Mickie goes, I'd hit it in a new york minute.
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Post by MasonK565 on Nov 21, 2009 21:46:22 GMT -5
I like R-Truth, so I am happy for him getting a push. On the jones and World title situation, I doubt they will give it back to Undertaker. I think Cena vs Undertaker at WM 26 is where they are headed, and I even read an article today speculating it. I want to see him hold the title till mania, so the reign gets a good amount of months under its belt, and then he lose to either Kofi, Morrison, or Christian. I don't see Kofi likely cuz hes on RAW, but could win the RR, and the same thing with Christian.
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Post by AriadosMan on Nov 21, 2009 22:20:19 GMT -5
Message to Mickie:
go to Nashville NOW. You are far more likely to find acceptance for your appearance there than you will in WWE. Please do this to spare us the billions of Mickie/Arbys and other childish remarks that will continue to follow you if you remain in WWE.
Staying in WWE will only make this longer and more painful for all parties involved. Most Divas have a short shelf life anyway.
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