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Post by wasimperviz on Nov 24, 2009 18:59:17 GMT -5
We all know the I.C belt has not meant much for a long time but has pride been put back into this title with Morrison carrying the ball? I think yes because he is great and is what a I.C champion should be. I feel he has set the standards for that belt once again.
I think the longer he remains I.C champion the better but I would put him up there with guys like Perfect / Bret and others if his run keeps going the way it is.
Morrison is going to be huge one day this is only the start but right now a perfect I.C champion.
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Post by greeby on Nov 24, 2009 19:01:57 GMT -5
Maybe he would if he got to defend it against more than one person. Seems odd to say Raw did a better job with their midcard champion, but they are.
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Post by Tapout on Nov 24, 2009 19:03:46 GMT -5
No. Not even close. The only guy booked remotely as a threat has been Ziggler, who has not been a threat at all. He's spent the rest of his time wrestling the likes of Charlie Haas and Mike Knox, both of whom were treated with as much fanfare as no-name jobbers. He put them away clean on excellent TV matches with great highspots and sick bumps that the announcers should've put over huge, and which frankly, should've been saved for PPVs, but that's all water under the bridge, and Morrison's sacrifice, and Knox's and Haas's, are totally meaningless.
Morrison only got the title because Mysterio blew it, again, and the title is currently an anchor that's dragging him down away from the main event scene.
I'd say his work with the title was a lot more interesting back when he was Johnny Nitro and involved in a 4-way feud with Jeff Hardy, Carlito, and Shelton back on Raw. At least the matches were great and were booked in a way that any of the 4 men could walk away with the strap. Now on Smackdown, it's basically the main eventers at the very top echelon, the undercarders beneath them, and Morrison stuck smack dab in the middle with nobody at his level.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 24, 2009 19:04:00 GMT -5
I'd say, if anything, the reigns from Regal winning it to now have breathed life back into it.
First, Punk fought valiantly for it.
After that, JBL won it and acted like he won the lottery.
Rey then wins it at Wrestlemania and retires JBL.
Chris Jericho then trades the belt back and forth with Rey in fantastic matches, with Rey staking even his mask to be champion.
Rey then lost it to Morrison after fighting off Ziggler.
Hell, I'd even say Ziggler may of had more to do with it than Morrison, in that he strives so hard for the belt, rather than moving on elsewhere to work his way up the card.
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Post by wasimperviz on Nov 24, 2009 19:04:02 GMT -5
Give Morrison time. I mean he has had some great I.C matches with the one person so far. I feel over time he will get back. He is the best I.C champion in a long time.
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Post by azz0r on Nov 24, 2009 19:19:17 GMT -5
Ziggler is the only real one doing that by itching and scratching to get at it, its just an accessory to Morrison passed to him to hold it off Zigler due to Reys injury.
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Post by ♥ Bunnyslinger ♥ on Nov 24, 2009 19:37:40 GMT -5
That flippin' title is sort of holding him in place though, fighting with ziggler over the IC title won't make him a maineventer, and I don't see Ziggler picking up the title anytime soon after this long not getting it.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Nov 24, 2009 19:49:43 GMT -5
It just seems like a prop so they can have Basketball Jones (it isn't the filter, but I love the name) vs Taker, two guys who might not even be here this time next year. Its like they want to push him to the next level, but with the Rumble coming up after this PPV, I guess they want to hold him off for 2 more months, where he can have a good shot to win the Rumble, with the final 4 being Morrison, Kofi, Miz, and DiBiase.
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Post by Mac on Nov 24, 2009 19:52:18 GMT -5
Well hes had the title for about 2 ½ months, so if he can manage to hold onto it for a long run and continue to put on great matches Ill buy into that, but so far hes just another guy in a long line of guys to hold that title.
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Post by clifford on Nov 24, 2009 19:54:11 GMT -5
It just seems like a prop so they can have Basketball Jones (it isn't the filter, but I love the name) vs Taker, two guys who might not even be here this time next year. Its like they want to push him to the next level, but with the Rumble coming up after this PPV, I guess they want to hold him off for 2 more months, where he can have a good shot to win the Rumble, with the final 4 being Morrison, Kofi, Miz, and DiBiase. That would be like my ideal final four come rumble time. |
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Post by DanKirby on Nov 24, 2009 20:02:37 GMT -5
It's pretty much the exact opposite. Ever since he won the belt (after getting a random title shot for no reason), everybody other than Ziggler has stopped caring about it.
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Post by wasimperviz on Nov 26, 2009 12:08:23 GMT -5
Well hes had the title for about 2 ½ months, so if he can manage to hold onto it for a long run and continue to put on great matches Ill buy into that, but so far hes just another guy in a long line of guys to hold that title. I feel he will be champion longer and will carry on with the classic matches which many of us will enjoy. He is one of the best workers in such a long time. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2009 12:54:49 GMT -5
Morrison needs to get Christian type "fighting champion" booking. It would really help him a lot.
Have him wrestle every show against someone, with various short feuds sprinkled in throughout.
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Post by Nic Nemeth on Nov 26, 2009 19:41:16 GMT -5
Actually, Dolph Ziggler put pride back into the title.
He spent almost 6 months fighting for the title so it at least looks like something worth winning if your top midcard heel wants it so badly.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Nov 26, 2009 22:41:39 GMT -5
Kinda reminds me of Bret Hart with the IC title. He simply goes out, fights anyone and puts on great matches
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Post by shamana on Nov 27, 2009 6:05:33 GMT -5
Right now we have Morrison successfully defending with good matches, which is good. We have the heel - Ziggler - chasing the title with all heart, which is also good. The problem is no one else seems to care, as others have said.
This scheme needs to open up. Have someone else promising who needs something to do - maybe Drew McIntyre, maybe Rey once he's done with Batista, maybe anyone else - try to unseat Ziggler from the official challenger spot. They can either blame him for hogging the spotlight and not being worthy of his position after so many losses, or Morrison may say it himself - that after losing time and again, Ziggler doesn't have the authority to stop any of the other guys who want a shot of the title. Basically breath some life into it. Make the challenger position more prestigious, and that automatically boosts the importance of the title.
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Post by BitterAF on Nov 27, 2009 9:01:12 GMT -5
I'd say, if anything, the reigns from Regal winning it to now have breathed life back into it. First, Punk fought valiantly for it. After that, JBL won it and acted like he won the lottery. Rey then wins it at Wrestlemania and retires JBL. Chris Jericho then trades the belt back and forth with Rey in fantastic matches, with Rey staking even his mask to be champion. Rey then lost it to Morrison after fighting off Ziggler. Hell, I'd even say Ziggler may of had more to do with it than Morrison, in that he strives so hard for the belt, rather than moving on elsewhere to work his way up the card. Quoted for truth. |
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Post by Slammywinner on Nov 27, 2009 9:50:06 GMT -5
I'd say, if anything, the reigns from Regal winning it to now have breathed life back into it. First, Punk fought valiantly for it. After that, JBL won it and acted like he won the lottery. Rey then wins it at Wrestlemania and retires JBL. Chris Jericho then trades the belt back and forth with Rey in fantastic matches, with Rey staking even his mask to be champion. Rey then lost it to Morrison after fighting off Ziggler. Hell, I'd even say Ziggler may of had more to do with it than Morrison, in that he strives so hard for the belt, rather than moving on elsewhere to work his way up the card. Yeah, this. Morrison and Ziggler are doing their parts well in a much longer year long effort to make this belt more prestigious. While I can't say it's all Morrison, he's certainly holding up his end. His matches have been good, he looks good with the belt and his rivalries have meant something. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 27, 2009 10:50:11 GMT -5
It's pretty much the exact opposite. Ever since he won the belt (after getting a random title shot for no reason), everybody other than Ziggler has stopped caring about it. Who cared about it before? Prior to Ziggler trying to capture it, it was just Jericho vs. Mysterio. Its not Morrisons fault that Ziggler is the only credible midcard heel and apparently the concept of giving other heels some throwaway TV shots at the belt is lost on the SD writers. |
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Post by Big L on Nov 27, 2009 11:50:59 GMT -5
Give Morrison time. I mean he has had some great I.C matches with the one person so far. I feel over time he will get back. He is the best I.C champion in a long time. this |
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