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Post by FrankGotch on Jan 3, 2010 16:28:58 GMT -5
Ah yes.. the comedy team that made senseless comedy violence cool. I also love how every gag you can see coming from a mile away. Between them and Looney Tunes you got all the senseless violence you need in a life time One thing that I have noticed a lot more since I've gotten older is the jokes you totally missed as a kid. As stupid as they seem, the stooges are no strangers to witty dialog. Anymore I find myself laughing just as much at their verbal interactions as I do their physical comedy.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Jan 3, 2010 16:30:28 GMT -5
I bought a couple of the rereleases on DVD but I got both Curly. Which Shemp set would you recommend. Also looking at the set I never knew they had a couple of 3d shorts The earlier the better RT. This last set has a lot of shorts with rehashed footage, and the future doesn't look brighter. I recommend getting the 1946-1948, 1949-1951, but strongly hold back on 1952-1954. The 3-D shorts are good, but pretty much the only original stuff on the set. Figured so. They even admit it on the back of the box it wasn't a good time for them. Maybe I'll rent it on netflix and get 3d glasses or if I see it on sale.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Jan 3, 2010 16:50:36 GMT -5
I guess this gives me a good enough excuse to post this:
The only time all 3 Howard brothers appeared on screen together
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Jan 3, 2010 16:57:24 GMT -5
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Jan 3, 2010 17:18:11 GMT -5
I guess this gives me a good enough excuse to post this: The only time all 3 Howard brothers appeared on screen together That short had footage reused in THREE SHORTS IN 1953!!!! And the Curly sequence was reused in I believe Tricky Dicks.
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Post by 8.2.11/SAVIOR_NEZ on Jan 3, 2010 18:50:13 GMT -5
I'm a Shemp fan, personally. That guy was the bee's knees. He got alot of crap because he had to follow Curly, and yeah Shemp couldn't compete with Curly. But like you, I have a personal fondness for the guy. He's like that nice guy-but-big-loser that you happen to know around the place. He can't help it. Shemp was actually the "first" third Stooge when the act toured Vaudeville with Ted Healy. They made one film appearance in this incarnation in 1930, Soup To Nuts.
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Post by FHgrad99 on Jan 3, 2010 19:03:11 GMT -5
I've always enjoyed The Three Stooges. I always enjoy watching their pie fights.
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Post by FrankGotch on Jan 3, 2010 19:06:28 GMT -5
He got alot of crap because he had to follow Curly, and yeah Shemp couldn't compete with Curly. But like you, I have a personal fondness for the guy. He's like that nice guy-but-big-loser that you happen to know around the place. He can't help it. Shemp was actually the "first" third Stooge when the act toured Vaudeville with Ted Healy. They made one film appearance in this incarnation in 1930, Soup To Nuts. Shemp was also the stooge who really didn't need to be a stooge. Most people don't know that Shemp had quite a successful comedy career on his own. He was also supposed t be great at thinking on his feet and doing improv. One thing that I always found interesting were the rumors that when he worked with Abbot and Costello, they would edit a lot of his stuff out of the film versions of the act because they felt he had upstaged them.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 4, 2010 6:57:38 GMT -5
He got alot of crap because he had to follow Curly, and yeah Shemp couldn't compete with Curly. But like you, I have a personal fondness for the guy. He's like that nice guy-but-big-loser that you happen to know around the place. He can't help it. Shemp was actually the "first" third Stooge when the act toured Vaudeville with Ted Healy. They made one film appearance in this incarnation in 1930, Soup To Nuts. And by most accounts, that film had four Stooges, as Fred Sanborn was part of the troupe at the time. They weren't called the Three Stooges at the time, just Ted Healy and His Stooges. The "Three" didn't come about until after the split. Then you have to remember that after Healy split with them, he recruited a new set of Stooges, and after Moe died, Curly Joe DeRita started a new trio called the New Three Stooges.
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Post by Mr Captain Falcon on Jan 4, 2010 13:33:14 GMT -5
The knowledge of the three stooges on this board thrills me. I've always loved the 3 stooges. I'm sure I don't need to say this depressing fact, but Half Witz Holiday. Curly's final appearance billed as one of the three stooges. He leaves the screen after Moe takes the pie from him, never to return. He suffered a stroke on the set and had to be immediately hospitalized. Moe and Larry quietly end the episode cleaning pie off their faces. Moe states in his autobiography that he left the set in his costume and makeup and went right to Curlys house (or the hospital, not sure which one).
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 4, 2010 13:56:33 GMT -5
Of course, no discussion of the Stooges can go without mention of their most consistent and constant, Bud Jamison, who I just learned was the first one in a Stooges short to perform the eye-poke, before the Stooges themselves: Anyone remember the name of the lady who appeared in many of the shorts?
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Post by FrankGotch on Jan 4, 2010 14:27:45 GMT -5
One factoid that I always loved about the Stooges is that apparently they in real life they were all almost complete opposite of their on screen persona's. In real life Mo was one of the most kind passive people you would ever want to meet. Larry on the other hand was feisty, and didn't mind conflict. I also love the fact that Larry was a professional boxer when he was younger. Then you have Curly who everyone says was very quiet, and private when he wasn't on the screen. I also found it interesting that Curly was very open, joking, and friendly with Shemp, yet had a relationship with Moe that was more like a relationship between a father and son.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jan 4, 2010 14:28:21 GMT -5
I bought a couple of the rereleases on DVD but I got both Curly. Which Shemp set would you recommend. Also looking at the set I never knew they had a couple of 3d shorts The earlier the better RT. This last set has a lot of shorts with rehashed footage, and the future doesn't look brighter. I recommend getting the 1946-1948, 1949-1951, but strongly hold back on 1952-1954. The 3-D shorts are good, but pretty much the only original stuff on the set. Volume 7 ends the count at 158 shorts (according to wikipedia). The stooges made 190 shorts at Columbia (now owned by Sony). So There's 32 shorts left - 16 Shemps (counting the 4 with fake Shemp), and 16 Joes. Sony hasn't said anything about Volume 8 yet, but there seems to be two camps that have formed over what volume 8 should have: 1) Volume 8 be the end of the shemp era with his solo shorts added in and Volume 9 being the besser era with his solo shorts added in 2) add an extra disc and just end the 190 columbia shorts with volume 8. I personally like the idea of ending the shorts with volume 8. On to the Shemp discussion... You know I spent a lot of time this week just watching the sets and I agree Shemp got a raw deal. He comes from a fairly successful solo career to fill in for his brother on a temporary basis. Curly never fully recovers so Shemp has the inenviable job of being the new or fourth stooge in the eyes of fans who only knew the team as Moe, Larry & Curly. Additionly, Columbia started really cutting costs on the later shorts so we see a lot more recycled footage instead of new stooge material. Then Shemp has a mild stroke In November of '52 reducing his abilities. And as a final insult after the guy dies Columbia just uses a fake shemp to get the final 4 films promised to theater owners out for the year. Sure Shemp isn't Curly, but IMO the team still had a great chemistry together. Christine McIntyre? Also thanks for putting the picture of Bud up. I was trying to figure out who he was.
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Post by Vampiro138 on Jan 4, 2010 17:54:50 GMT -5
in pardon my scotch i remember reading that when moe went through the table he broke his ribs and actually got up, walked in shot delivered his line and slaps and then passed out....Moe is pretty freakin hardcore!
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Post by FrankGotch on Jan 4, 2010 18:03:00 GMT -5
in pardon my scotch i remember reading that when moe went through the table he broke his ribs and actually got up, walked in shot delivered his line and slaps and then passed out....Moe is pretty freakin hardcore! Skip to the 3:00 minute mark and you can see that fall. Moe broke two ribs doing that stunt. After double slapping Larry and Curly, he fainted and had to be rushed to the hospital.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jan 4, 2010 18:42:48 GMT -5
in pardon my scotch i remember reading that when moe went through the table he broke his ribs and actually got up, walked in shot delivered his line and slaps and then passed out....Moe is pretty freakin hardcore! Moe Howard, the original hardcore icon.
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Jan 4, 2010 19:26:11 GMT -5
in pardon my scotch i remember reading that when moe went through the table he broke his ribs and actually got up, walked in shot delivered his line and slaps and then passed out....Moe is pretty freakin hardcore! Moe Howard, the original hardcore icon. And there are other shots, like A Bird in the Head, where Moe gets injured on set and just shrugs it off. HOWEVER, Shemp is the only stooge to bleed in front of a camera, in an outtake, where he gets hit by a closing door. Busted open with a small trickle of blood going down Shemp's like, "Mmm, ketchup!"
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Jan 4, 2010 19:37:08 GMT -5
On another side-tangent, Curly is the only one to have a medical problem on set with that stroke he suffered on "Half-Wits Holiday", which was a remake of "Hoi Polloi", and both of those shorts inspired the 1983 classic "Trading Places"!
Also, I retract the blood statement. Larry also bled on set after a fountain pen went into his head on "Heavenly Daze". Though the final cut features the pen in the head, it only started bleeding when they took it out off camera.
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Post by psychotix5000 on Jan 5, 2010 19:09:16 GMT -5
Nice to see some love for The Stooges on the boards. I loved the marathon on New Year's Eve on AMC.
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