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Post by don on Dec 29, 2009 10:25:10 GMT -5
I was originally going to post this in a thread debating the Undertaker's streak, but I think it goes beyond that. Wrestlemania is the most lazily booked show of the entire wrestling year, in terms of coming up with storylines. I always say that The Undertaker's streak will never be broken, as it provides the writers with a ready-made, reasonably compelling storyline that requires little to no effort on their part. Upon closer examination, not only does the streak do that, but also the entire show. Every year it's:
-Can ____________ stop the Undertaker's streak? They run the same video package with his past opponents and only add in the previous year's victim.
-Does Vince McMahon feel like wrestling that year? If so, he's given a match with a lot of hype and it is overbooked to hell.
-Instead of coming up with compelling storylines for midcarders, just throw six to eight of them out there with a ladder and have a money in the bank match.
-Have an obscure celebrity make an appearance, such as Kid Rock and the Miller Lite Catfight Girls.
-Shoehorn Triple H into a world title match, even if the storyline makes no sense. (Wrestlemania 22 should have been Edge vs. Cena.)
-Put Shawn Michaels in the ring with someone he can likely have a great match with, as you will be relying ion him to save the show and make the fans feel as though they've gotten their money's worth. (I'm not saying HBK isn't a great wrestler, but compare his WM matches to that of another great, like Rey Mysterio. HBK is given time to create epics, Rey is given 25 seconds to win the IC title.)
-Come up with a way to fill in the rest of the time, and you have Wrestlemania!!!
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Post by Solid Stryk-Dizzle on Dec 29, 2009 10:26:10 GMT -5
-Shoehorn Triple H into a world title match, even if the storyline makes no sense. (Wrestlemania 22 should have been Edge vs. Cena.) And 24 should have been Cena Vs. Orton. |
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Post by don on Dec 29, 2009 11:36:27 GMT -5
-Shoehorn Triple H into a world title match, even if the storyline makes no sense. (Wrestlemania 22 should have been Edge vs. Cena.) And 24 should have been Cena Vs. Orton. Another great example!! But not having HHH in the Wrestlemania title match would go against the formula, and we can't have that!! |
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Post by mauled on Dec 29, 2009 11:55:20 GMT -5
And 24 should have been Cena Vs. Orton. Another great example!! But not having HHH in the Wrestlemania title match would go against the formula, and we can't have that!! Why call it the wrestlemania main event at all why not simply call it the Hunter event were they can chose which lucky wrestler is to be pedigreed that year |
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Post by machomuta on Dec 29, 2009 12:22:23 GMT -5
Just call it Huntermania.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2009 13:23:07 GMT -5
Just call it Huntermania. Randy Orton: Triple H is going to main event Wrestlemania tonight and is going to bury me tonight and the rest of us Legacy Ted DiBiase Jr: I have a feeling that Triple H is going to have a little accident that might keep him from beating you at Wrestlemania tonight.. heh heh heh. Triple H: Vince McMahon, I'm afraid I wont be able to wrestle tonight. My old gimpie quadriceps has gone akimbo again! Cody Rhodes: Take that (hits Triple H's quadriceps with a sledgehammer) Triple H: Vince! That precision assault popped it back into place! |
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Post by mauled on Dec 29, 2009 13:47:00 GMT -5
Just call it Huntermania. I just had thought if its Huntermania does that mean HBK and Batista are the mordern day Beefcake and Knobs  |
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Post by KingPopper on Dec 29, 2009 14:37:21 GMT -5
Dont forgot book three maineventers in a ramdom triple threat for one of the championships.
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on Dec 29, 2009 14:38:12 GMT -5
Siiiiiigh, the object of Mania 22 was to give Cena a huge rub, beating HHH done more for him than beating Edge would have.
I think Mania does have formula, but that's what makes it so special.
The streak is great television. They don't just air the video package, each year is different build up. HBK did something totally unique with it last year.
Vince has had some serious issues with wrestlers over the years, blurring reality with fiction. It only makes sense to make money out of it. He probably only has one more match in him anyway, and that's Bret.
Money in the Bank makes a main eventer. It's not as if every single mid-carder is there, but it does serve to showcase everyone and gives opportunities - Kofi got noticed by a lot of people this year.
Celebrity benefits are obvious.
HBK as Mr Wrestlemania has a similar benefit as the streak. You simply know an HBK match is worth watching and paying for.
HHH wasn't shoe-horned into WM25, a storyline was constructed and it made sense. 24...maybe, but they needed him on the card and the story with his injury and return ties in with Cena's, having them both fight to return and want to become champion again was a selling point. 22 he made Cena, 21 he made Batista, 20 he tapped to Benoit. 19 he was the last remaining bona-fide star and they wanted to make a worthwhile belt and he needed to lose to Goldberg.
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Post by mauled on Dec 29, 2009 14:53:32 GMT -5
Siiiiiigh, the object of Mania 22 was to give Cena a huge rub, beating HHH done more for him than beating Edge would have. I think Mania does have formula, but that's what makes it so special. The streak is great television. They don't just air the video package, each year is different build up. HBK did something totally unique with it last year. Vince has had some serious issues with wrestlers over the years, blurring reality with fiction. It only makes sense to make money out of it. He probably only has one more match in him anyway, and that's Bret. Money in the Bank makes a main eventer. It's not as if every single mid-carder is there, but it does serve to showcase everyone and gives opportunities - Kofi got noticed by a lot of people this year. Celebrity benefits are obvious. HBK as Mr Wrestlemania has a similar benefit as the streak. You simply know an HBK match is worth watching and paying for. HHH wasn't shoe-horned into WM25, a storyline was constructed and it made sense. 24...maybe, but they needed him on the card and the story with his injury and return ties in with Cena's, having them both fight to return and want to become champion again was a selling point. 22 he made Cena, 21 he made Batista, 20 he tapped to Benoit. 19 he was the last remaining bona-fide star and they wanted to make a worthwhile belt and he needed to lose to Goldberg. You forget though there was due to be Cena/Trips rematch for WM23 (confirmed on the HBK DVD) but it got canned due to Trips injury. I am willing to lay odds that Hunter was gonna get the belt back in that match (HBK's there were different plans for Cena seemed to imply it) As for 19 Booker was incredibly over at the time and would have been a great champion. Both Brock and Angle were around as was Jericho. While it was the Rock who was putting Goldberg over on his way out. And for debate is HBK really Mr Wrestlemania I would argue that should probably go to Savage Oh yeah  |
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 29, 2009 14:58:06 GMT -5
The Hall of Fame inductions, Money In The Bank, and a challenge to Undertaker's streak need to remain Wrestlemania staples. Aside from those, that leaves one a lot to experiment with on the card, IMO.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Dec 29, 2009 15:17:05 GMT -5
Siiiiiigh, the object of Mania 22 was to give Cena a huge rub, beating HHH done more for him than beating Edge would have. True, but it still was a hot-shotted storyline that steamrolled over the more organic one that drew far better ratings. If Hunter vs. Cena was the plan all along, they should have started building it months before, not like 4 weeks before Mania. It felt forced and contrived because of it, rub implications aside. And 24 was definitely shoe-horned. The story was Cena vs. Orton. Cena won the Rumble. Cena was on the comeback trail. It was his year. Hunter was an add-on that just didn['t fit the revenge/comeback storyline. Hunter had his own version at Wrestlemania 18. And that would have blown too had they shoe-horned someone else into his moment. (even if that moment ultimately fell flat.). |
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on Dec 29, 2009 15:47:42 GMT -5
Siiiiiigh, the object of Mania 22 was to give Cena a huge rub, beating HHH done more for him than beating Edge would have. True, but it still was a hot-shotted storyline that steamrolled over the more organic one that drew far better ratings. If Hunter vs. Cena was the plan all along, they should have started building it months before, not like 4 weeks before Mania. It felt forced and contrived because of it, rub implications aside. And 24 was definitely shoe-horned. The story was Cena vs. Orton. Cena won the Rumble. Cena was on the comeback trail. It was his year. Hunter was an add-on that just didn['t fit the revenge/comeback storyline. Hunter had his own version at Wrestlemania 18. And that would have blown too had they shoe-horned someone else into his moment. (even if that moment ultimately fell flat.). Well I think the story of the WM22 build up therefore comes down not to wanting HHH in the main event at all costs, but giving Edge his world title. Because if you build Cena/HHH 4 months before, you then don't give Edge the world title. Does he lose his cash in? They done the best they could at giving Edge his elevation, and giving Cena his rub. I'll give you 24, I didn't really care for HHH being there, and thought the storyline was weak. Jeff Hardy was the rising star, so they could have done Cena/Orton with Jeff beating HHH in a passing of the torch moment, but the plans were to get the belt on HHH the next month anyway, so they don't want him losing to Jeff (who got suspended anyway...and would have had a good run with the MITB). And they put the belt on HHH so he could eventually elevate Jeff, and it worked. At the end of the day it probably was shoe-horning him on, not neccesarily because of his pull, but because HHH is, along with Cena and Taker, a guy you simply have to feature prominently at Mania. What else would he do? Umaga? Then what would Batista have done? There wasn't really anyone else, so as much as it was shoe-horned, it was the best option and at that time, the triple threat was a match we at least hadn't seen before. |
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Post by don on Dec 29, 2009 18:02:07 GMT -5
I think everyone is getting sidetracked with HHHate. Getting back on topic, am I the only one who thinks the buildups for Wrestlemania for the last 5 years have been virtually identical?
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Post by rrm15 on Dec 29, 2009 18:16:56 GMT -5
In a way, yeah. Ya know what hasn't happened in a while? A new guy being in the WM main event. Hopefully that comes this year.
Keep Triple H out of the main event, period. It is beyond ridiculous at this point. Let DX keep the tag titles and face either the Brothers of Destruction or The Harts.
Let Kofi get a shot at the main event.
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