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Post by dlg3000 on Nov 26, 2009 10:22:28 GMT -5
Was the Spartacus thing that never happened to punish Ric Flair for some reason or was it just an idea of someone who was clueless? I read about Jim Herd being clueless about wrestling and him feuding with Ric Flair in reality. Plus some shoots don't paint Jim Herd in a good light.
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Nov 26, 2009 10:46:34 GMT -5
Herd really had no idea about wrestling. He didn't see how important Flair was to NWA/WCW at that stage in time, and decided he was too old, even though the crowds loved him and he was still putting on great matches.
Herd loved gimmicks and wanted to turn WCW into WWF with the cartoonish element, and having Flair as 'Spartacus' was his idea to make him more relevant.
This is the Jim Herd who wanted a team of hunchbacks which was later negotiated DOWN to the Ding Dongs.
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Post by Mac on Nov 26, 2009 10:57:11 GMT -5
I would have loved to see it, they should have also made Sting into a drunken Viking who speaks only in olde norwegein
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Post by romafan87 on Nov 26, 2009 12:15:30 GMT -5
Herd really had no idea about wrestling. He didn't see how important Flair was to NWA/WCW at that stage in time, and decided he was too old, even though the crowds loved him and he was still putting on great matches. Herd loved gimmicks and wanted to turn WCW into WWF with the cartoonish element, and having Flair as 'Spartacus' was his idea to make him more relevant. This is the Jim Herd who wanted a team of hunchbacks which was later negotiated DOWN to the Ding Dongs. One aspect of this proposed gimmick that is not talked about is the fact that Turner acquired a shit load of old movies and was preparing them to air on his stations. Not that that excuses it any further, but I guarentee there was pressure on him to make movie tie-ins, hence Oz, which was admitted as such on air right about the same time in 1991. |
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Post by toodarkmark on Nov 26, 2009 13:54:46 GMT -5
Jim the Turd Herd.
When I was a kid I blamed Van Hammer, Big Josh, PN News and the Desperados looking for Stan Hansen on Jim Herd. But I'm pretty sure a lot of this was Dusty Rhodes.
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Post by Ryushinku on Nov 26, 2009 15:48:08 GMT -5
I don't think it was personal, no, just another attempt at a movie tie-in and Flair was the one Herd randomly decided to lumber with it.
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Post by quantum on Nov 27, 2009 10:46:13 GMT -5
This is the Jim Herd who wanted a team of hunchbacks which was later negotiated DOWN to the Ding Dongs. The Hunchback wrestlers idea was Dusty Rhodes not Jim Heard. |
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Nov 27, 2009 23:14:56 GMT -5
Yes, if a Wrestlecrap Video Game should ever be made, a feud with Spartacus should be the final match at December to Dismember, before you fight the Gobblety Gooker for the World Title. Wait, I suppose Dismember should have Xanta Klaus at it.
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Post by Aceorton on Nov 28, 2009 0:57:21 GMT -5
Jim the Turd Herd. When I was a kid I blamed Van Hammer, Big Josh, PN News and the Desperados looking for Stan Hansen on Jim Herd. But I'm pretty sure a lot of this was Dusty Rhodes. You knew about Jim Herd as a kid? |
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Post by sabu on Nov 28, 2009 12:29:01 GMT -5
I sure hope Flair would have quit before taking on that gimmick.
Hunchbacks and Ding Dongs were both horrible ideas, but seperate of each othere.
So were the Dynamic Dudes.
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Nov 28, 2009 12:33:23 GMT -5
As I remember it, the original idea was for the Hunchback wrestlers who couldn't get pinned, and that they would carry a bell with them, a la Quasimodo.
The hunchback bit got dropped, but the bell got the thumbs up.
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Post by Triple Kelly on Nov 28, 2009 21:03:36 GMT -5
Herd really had no idea about wrestling. He didn't see how important Flair was to NWA/WCW at that stage in time, and decided he was too old, even though the crowds loved him and he was still putting on great matches. Herd loved gimmicks and wanted to turn WCW into WWF with the cartoonish element, and having Flair as 'Spartacus' was his idea to make him more relevant. This is the Jim Herd who wanted a team of hunchbacks which was later negotiated DOWN to the Ding Dongs. You could write a whole book about WCW under his leadership. As someone else pointed out, as incompetent as Herd was, bringing Dusty in only made it worse. The problem with Herd was that he was NOT a wrestling guy, he was a TV guy. He was a station manager in St. Louis on the same channel that aired Sam Muchnik's wrestling promotion and therefore Herd thought he had the wrestling business all figured out. And I think he got the NWA/WCW job because his wife was friends with some other Turner Execs wife (no experience required? I know you're shocked). |
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Post by T Vang is a HO-DADDY~! on Nov 30, 2009 18:16:54 GMT -5
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Post by Mac on Nov 30, 2009 19:36:48 GMT -5
I feel like this is an appropriate time to post this... If that doesnt put butts in the seats nothing will. |
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