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Post by strykerdarksilence on Nov 19, 2009 17:16:38 GMT -5
The massive Flair one. Only shoot that has actually given me tears. Also, it really makes you think about what an amazing career he had. However, there is one MASSIVE draw back: he keeps chewing and spitting tobacco and it's bloody disgusting. Loads of wrestlers use dipping tobacco, because it doesn't cause the same breathing issues as smoking. It makes me cry too, when he talks about not understanding why he got honoured by the people he worships and breaks down, it's so so moving.
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Nov 19, 2009 17:22:27 GMT -5
The massive Flair one. Only shoot that has actually given me tears. Also, it really makes you think about what an amazing career he had. However, there is one MASSIVE draw back: he keeps chewing and spitting tobacco and it's bloody disgusting. Loads of wrestlers use dipping tobacco, because it doesn't cause the same breathing issues as smoking. It makes me cry too, when he talks about not understanding why he got honoured by the people he worships and breaks down, it's so so moving. Me three, it was like watching his RAW farewell all over again. Heartbreaking stuff, as much as Flair might have his issues the guy comes across as incredibly humble. A very good quality in a man if you ask me, especially considering Flair's achievements.
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Post by DavidArquette on Nov 19, 2009 17:44:10 GMT -5
The only one I've seen in full is the Shawn Michaels shoot from around '99-'00. That's pretty good.
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Post by JerryvonKramer on Nov 19, 2009 17:48:13 GMT -5
It wasn't just that bit that choked me either, all the stuff with Bischoff in 1998. He was very very torn up over how he was treated by the company who he literally carried on his shoulders for a decade.
I should mention too that a lot of all the shoots I've heard or seen, none of them seem to have a good word to say about Bischoff. And by the same token, they all seem genuinely to respect Vince.
You can call it ass kissing or whatever, but I happen to believe there's something in that. I'm talking about guys who are generally good and level-headed wrestling guys, rather than bitter or twisted folk (i.e. Iron Sheik, HTM, Bret, Jake on occasion, the usual suspects)
I always get the impression that Vince is a fair man who sometimes hold grudges but generally gives second chances and -- more importantly, lives for the business and that Bischoff is a sly, smarmy non-wrestling guy who was in over his head and made a lot of promises he couldn't keep because he had too much tv time to fill and more talent than he knew what to do with.
From the 30 or 40 shoots I've listened to, that's the message that seems to come across most clearly.
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Post by dlg3000 on Nov 20, 2009 8:37:09 GMT -5
Jim Cornette ticks all the boxes. We have a winner. I loved that shoot.
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Post by Thrillho on Nov 20, 2009 11:48:25 GMT -5
For sheer entertainment value, you have to go for Steve Corino.
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Post by Oak: Certified Jade Hater on Nov 20, 2009 15:01:16 GMT -5
Question: Where can I get Punk/Joe, Cabana/Joe, Cornette, and Steve Corino's Shoots?
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Nov 20, 2009 15:43:37 GMT -5
Question: Where can I get Punk/Joe, Cabana/Joe, Cornette, and Steve Corino's Shoots? Cornette and Corino RFVideo would be your best bet, Punk/Joe and Cabana/Joe try the ROH site.
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Post by Error on Nov 20, 2009 15:59:11 GMT -5
Question: Where can I get Punk/Joe, Cabana/Joe, Cornette, and Steve Corino's Shoots? Cornette and Corino RFVideo would be your best bet, Punk/Joe and Cabana/Joe try the ROH site. ROH has a 2 part Cornette/Heenan shoot for 5 bucks a part at the moment and a ones with him and Pringle and Watts as well for5.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 20, 2009 16:09:43 GMT -5
From my experience, anyone who is a good promo tends to also have a really good shoot.
The most entertaining shoots by my recollection were Ravens [anything with him is good especially a joint one he did with Honky Tonk], Scott Hall, Kevin Nash. I have seen so many shoots I cant remember all of them but those were the ones that stick out in my mind. I THINK I saw Honkys shoot as well and it was good but its fuzzy to me.
It probably doesn't help that I watch these things when I am bored and drunk by myself. :]
A lot of shoots are really boring to me, either the wrestlers dont remember anything or you have to sit through a bunch of boring crap to get to the good stuff, all of those I remember being consistently entertaining.
Other guys I remember having entertaining shoots are Corino, New Jack and Sandman. Actually, it seems like any ECW guy with a shoot I saw was entertaining and informative, even Danny Dorings shoot was pretty good. New Jacks shoots are basically just him doing promos on people for hours.
I haven't seen Flairs shoot but I would imagine its very good, how could it not be? Although if I have to sit through him complaining about WCW not pushing him enough when he was past his prime during one of the hottest angles in wrestling history I might put a Figure Four Leglock on myself.
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 20, 2009 16:23:48 GMT -5
It wasn't just that bit that choked me either, all the stuff with Bischoff in 1998. He was very very torn up over how he was treated by the company who he literally carried on his shoulders for a decade. I should mention too that a lot of all the shoots I've heard or seen, none of them seem to have a good word to say about Bischoff. And by the same token, they all seem genuinely to respect Vince. You can call it ass kissing or whatever, but I happen to believe there's something in that. I'm talking about guys who are generally good and level-headed wrestling guys, rather than bitter or twisted folk (i.e. Iron Sheik, HTM, Bret, Jake on occasion, the usual suspects) I always get the impression that Vince is a fair man who sometimes hold grudges but generally gives second chances and -- more importantly, lives for the business and that Bischoff is a sly, smarmy non-wrestling guy who was in over his head and made a lot of promises he couldn't keep because he had too much tv time to fill and more talent than he knew what to do with. From the 30 or 40 shoots I've listened to, that's the message that seems to come across most clearly. I find McMahon to mostly come off as a deplorable human being (at least as far as anything I've seen/read/heard/know about him), but there's no denying that the guy got into the business and learned what it was that made wrestlers and wrestling personalities tick. Bischoff was always more of a businessman (and a good one, in many cases, not so good in others), not a people-manager. He could talk to executives and suits, make deals, make a few creative decisions here and there, but it has never sounded like his strong point was dealing with wrestlers personally. Vince, on the other hand, is the type of guy who seems to live for that kind of thing. I think a boss who relates to you more and who probably has more a heart for the business will always come off as more likable, even if, by most accounts, he appears to be a dirtbag.
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Post by boomhauer20055 on Nov 20, 2009 23:15:45 GMT -5
The Iron Sheik
Was one of the first shoots done
Eric Simms interviews in Sheiks basement
It and an early Mick Foley one are the Granddaddy of all shoots
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Post by smokinvokoun on Nov 22, 2009 0:46:07 GMT -5
I did love the Honkey Tonk Man/Raven joint shoot, especially the part when they are reading off and answering certain internet wrestling urban legends. The Flair shoot is fantastic. Very informative, I could listen to him talk for hours. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) The one that I really enjoyed was Scott Hall. I got the impression that Hall isn't really a bad guy even if he did bad things.
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