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Post by biafra on Nov 13, 2009 12:20:50 GMT -5
I'm one of those "Fedor fanboys."
So I picked him.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Nov 13, 2009 12:28:04 GMT -5
Really tough call.
I'd like to think Fedor since he has a bit more "finesse", but Brock is such a freak (and isn't even at the peak of his prime, as mentioned) that it would likely be a very close fight. If Fedor couldn't stay on top, he'd lose.
Also, I'd be rooting for Brock.
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Post by angryfan on Nov 13, 2009 12:31:26 GMT -5
Really tough call. I'd like to think Fedor since he has a bit more "finesse", but Brock is such a freak (and isn't even at the peak of his prime, as mentioned) that it would likely be a very close fight. If Fedor couldn't stay on top, he'd lose. Also, I'd be rooting for Brock. See, I want to root for Brock, but I can't bring myself to do it. He's strong as hell, but he's so one dimensional in his gameplans. I get it, takedown and punch a lot, it works when you're freakishly strong, but it's boring. Show me some improvement in the ground game, some submission prowess, or even more on the stand-up (he's getting better in stand-up, I admit) or I really can't justify spending money to see him fight.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Nov 13, 2009 12:38:01 GMT -5
Really tough call. I'd like to think Fedor since he has a bit more "finesse", but Brock is such a freak (and isn't even at the peak of his prime, as mentioned) that it would likely be a very close fight. If Fedor couldn't stay on top, he'd lose. Also, I'd be rooting for Brock. See, I want to root for Brock, but I can't bring myself to do it. He's strong as hell, but he's so one dimensional in his gameplans. I get it, takedown and punch a lot, it works when you're freakishly strong, but it's boring. Show me some improvement in the ground game, some submission prowess, or even more on the stand-up (he's getting better in stand-up, I admit) or I really can't justify spending money to see him fight. For what it's worth- as far as fighters who do just one thing go, I've always seen Brock as the guy EliteXC wished that Kimbo had turned out to be.
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Post by hajimenoippo on Nov 13, 2009 13:40:46 GMT -5
If Brock is kept standing Fedor Ko's him like he did FEdor.
Thing is Rogers had Fedor grounded and couldn't pound him out. I don't think Brock will face that problem as Brock would smother Fedor should he get into half gaurd he might pound out Fedor, who was taken down with Ease.
But STyles make fights, would Brock be aggressive enough to take down and pound out Fedor, or Will Fedor nail another hail mary shot or maybe use his Sambo to tap Brock out.
Too many Variables, and at this point Brock>Rogers in terms of Ground Game, Fedor has shown problems with Wrestlers, but he always makes the miraculous comeback.
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Post by Krimzon on Nov 13, 2009 14:01:58 GMT -5
The Brock Ness Monster would CRUSH Fedor! I badly want to see this fight happen.
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Post by lizardking on Nov 13, 2009 16:14:46 GMT -5
Fedor would win. He would totally outclass Brock, easily. I wish we could see it though.
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Post by kingpin of crime on Nov 13, 2009 21:24:33 GMT -5
On the ground i dont think fedor would panic and i think he could still submit him in the standup fedor is too quick and too good to be outstruck by lesnar . Good fight but i pick Fedor
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Nov 13, 2009 23:16:57 GMT -5
Fedor would win. He would totally outclass Brock, easily. I wish we could see it though. Don't worry. I highly doubt Strikeforce will be able to last that long. Once they lose Fedor who will eventually want more money that they can't pay him he will go to the UFC. Honestly I would like to see Lesnar in a few more fights before he faces Fedor. As it is right now I thihnk Fedor could take him.
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Post by lizardking on Nov 13, 2009 23:55:40 GMT -5
Don't worry. I highly doubt Strikeforce will be able to last that long. Once they lose Fedor who will eventually want more money that they can't pay him he will go to the UFC. Honestly I would like to see Lesnar in a few more fights before he faces Fedor. As it is right now I thihnk Fedor could take him. I'm gonna have to disagree with you there Scott Coker(SF Owner) is a very smart business man and I think Strikeforce will be around for a while. And you are absolutly right, Brock needs more experience if/when they ever fight.
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Post by Tfmcmg is Johnny Green on Nov 14, 2009 0:02:55 GMT -5
Does brock win if fedor is too scared to fight him?Cause If so then fedor has pretty much lost already.
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Post by honsou on Nov 14, 2009 0:03:23 GMT -5
Fedor wins this pretty easily. Its pretty clear Fedor outclasses him stand up wise. When it comes to the ground game its pretty clear that Lesnar will be able to get him to the ground, but the one thing that is underrated when it comes to Fedor is his ability to work from the bottom. His ability to sweep and throw the arm bar at speeds you'd normally see from a middleweight. That's probably how the fight ends, Lesnar lands a take down, Fedor isolates an arm and its over.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Nov 14, 2009 0:11:18 GMT -5
I think it's more of a matter of when these two meet. If they met right now, Brock wouldn't stand a chance. Sure, he can pound the ever loving crap out of you, but Fedor has taken a ton of punishment and has shrugged it off like it's nothing. Plus, the whole Ground n' Pound thing can be dangerous when you're up against Fedor. You can be punching the crap out of him, then BAM, he's got you in an armbar and you're tapping like a little girl.
Plus what's extremely dangerous about Fedor is how relaxed he is in the ring. A lot of these guys show intensity and what not, but Fedor always seems real relaxed and loose.
My main concern for Fedor was how he would do in the octagon, as I don't think he's ever fought inside the cage before. But I guess that wasn't a real big issue.
If Brock got a few more fights under his belt and a little more experience, this will be the fight everyone wants to see.
"The Next Big Thing" vs. "The Last Emperor"
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Post by squash on Nov 14, 2009 1:15:31 GMT -5
Fedor, fairly easily. Brock will never see that kind of hand speed and quickness from another heavy no matter how many tuneups he takes, and Fedor hits like bricks. Brock's size won't help him with that.
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Post by hajimenoippo on Nov 14, 2009 12:46:07 GMT -5
I think it's more of a matter of when these two meet. If they met right now, Brock wouldn't stand a chance. Sure, he can pound the ever loving crap out of you, but Fedor has taken a ton of punishment and has shrugged it off like it's nothing. Plus, the whole Ground n' Pound thing can be dangerous when you're up against Fedor. You can be punching the crap out of him, then BAM, he's got you in an armbar and you're tapping like a little girl. Plus what's extremely dangerous about Fedor is how relaxed he is in the ring. A lot of these guys show intensity and what not, but Fedor always seems real relaxed and loose. My main concern for Fedor was how he would do in the octagon, as I don't think he's ever fought inside the cage before. But I guess that wasn't a real big issue. If Brock got a few more fights under his belt and a little more experience, this will be the fight everyone wants to see. "The Next Big Thing" vs. "The Last Emperor" Fedor was using the cage to his advantage in the Roger's fight using it to manuever out of holds, and I think that in Fedor's next fight he'll look at home in the cage.
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Post by randomranter on Nov 15, 2009 7:34:32 GMT -5
Lesnar has been successful because there's nobody currently in the UFC who can handle his size and strength. Fedor wouldn't have that problem. As others have said above, the most likely ending to the fight would be Lesnar getting a takedown, ending up in an armbar, and tapping like a little girl.
And now there's this whole illness that Lesnar has. Assuming his career isn't completely over, he's going to be out for the better part of a year or more when all is said and done. And that's a year of no fighting, no staying in shape, no training, nothing. I can't see Lesnar being gone for that long and coming back even at the same level he was when he left -- and he was limited overall to begin with. Even if he manages to come back sometime in 2010, it would take him till at least some time in 2011 to get back to the level he was at in 2009. And that's assuming he even can. He wouldn't be truly ready (physically, mentally, and experience-wise) for Fedor until 2012 at the earliest, IMO.
Fedor/Lesnar in 2009 would have gone to Fedor, easily.
Fedor/Lesnar after Lesnar loses a year of his career to illness? Lesnar might as well not even bother to show up.
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Post by CMPunk4Prez on Nov 15, 2009 13:56:00 GMT -5
Fedor without a doubt, and anyone who says otherwise is kdding themselves.
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