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Post by Dave at the Movies on Nov 12, 2009 23:30:44 GMT -5
Honestly I'm not too sure but I think I would have to go with Fedor. The guy looks so average body wise but he is incredible.
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Post by mysterydriver on Nov 12, 2009 23:34:08 GMT -5
Fedor.
I like Brock. I just don't see him dominating Fedor like he did Frank Mir or Randy Couture.
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Post by Richard on Nov 13, 2009 0:19:43 GMT -5
I'll go with Brock. I just don't get the hype for Fedor.
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Post by Dee. on Nov 13, 2009 0:36:44 GMT -5
Fedor is a lot more experienced to MMA than Brock is. Sometimes, Brock just gets too over his head with physical offense. (e.g. the first Mir/Lesnar fight)
But if Fedor won, I'd just see a whole bunch of UFC fanboys taking the piss out of Lesnar. No matter how good the match was.
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Post by Jock Ass on Nov 13, 2009 0:41:51 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar.
After watching the fight Fedor had with...umm, uhh...whoever it was he just recently fought, I was not impressed at all. I text my friend, telling him that "Brock would chew up Fedor and s*** out whatever was left of him" when it was all said and done.
To quote what Ric previously said...I just don't get the hype for Fedor.
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Post by Cela on Nov 13, 2009 0:53:52 GMT -5
This one actaully perplexes me. On one hand, Lesnar has inhuman wrestling and brutal grund and pound, but he has an extreme disadvantage in striking and submission. Fedor has been taken down by great wrestlers, and he usually responds with picture perfect armbars. Plus his striking, while looking sloppy, is impressively technical and dangerous. And on top of that, Fedor does quite well against larger opponents. So it could end in the following ways: Brock via UFC 100 slow grinding GnP. Brock via Lay or Stand n Pray Fedor via Knockout. Fedor via Submission. Overall I say Fedor, but a tough fight. Also in regards to Dee's sig  |
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Post by Angus Mcloud on Nov 13, 2009 1:00:12 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar. Hes the most underrated fighter today
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Post by rawthentic on Nov 13, 2009 1:11:16 GMT -5
Brock could win but i would pick Fedor. Why do people say Fedor is the one with the hype? the guy is 31-1 and fought and dominated in the best HW division of all time in Pride. Brock is 4-1 aginst a 45 year old 16-10 fighter, Frank(who already beat him) and a washed up Herring(who Fedor destroyed in far more brutal fashion and when Herring was in his prime) and Fedor is the one with the hype? That i don't understand.
Brock could use his size to bear hug out a UD or maybe get a TKO Roy Nelson style, but just about everything else points to a Fedor win.
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Post by Cela on Nov 13, 2009 1:11:28 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar. Hes the most underrated fighter today Hes the heavyeight champion of the top MMA company and is hyped to the moon and rightfully so. How is he underated? |
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Post by ghettooverlord on Nov 13, 2009 1:15:58 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar. Hes the most underrated fighter today Hes the heavyeight champion of the top MMA company and is hyped to the moon and rightfully so. How is he underated? Brock Lesnar is a fake wrestler. Brock Lesnar got owned by Mir. Brock Lesnar beat nobody Heath Herring. Brock Lesnar beat up an old man. Brock Lesnar got lucky against Mir the second time. Brock Lesnar is just big. Brock Lesnar has no Jiu-Jitsu. Brock Lesnar can't strike. Brock Lesnar has no submissions. And so forth. |
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Post by Cela on Nov 13, 2009 1:20:33 GMT -5
Hes the heavyeight champion of the top MMA company and is hyped to the moon and rightfully so. How is he underated? Brock Lesnar is a fake wrestler. Brock Lesnar got owned by Mir. Brock Lesnar beat nobody Heath Herring. Brock Lesnar beat up an old man. Brock Lesnar got lucky against Mir the second time. Brock Lesnar is just big. Brock Lesnar has no Jiu-Jitsu. Brock Lesnar can't strike. Brock Lesnar has no submissions. And so forth. -Yes, he was a fake wrestler, but also a real one. -He got caught in a submission by mir, but dominated beore that. -Heath Herring kind of sucks in the grand scheme of things, and he won via cautious yet creative lay and pray. -That was a mean old man -He was rocked during Mir 2, but he controlled the fight other than that. -He is indeed big, but he uses it effectively as opposed to the Sylvias and the Sapps. -We have yet to see him use jiu jitsu, hes a wrestler, thats ok. -He is very strong, but he gets caught when striking, he will get better. -We have yet to see him try a submission. And so on. |
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Post by rawthentic on Nov 13, 2009 1:22:26 GMT -5
I think Brock is impressive in the cage and i think he could beat Fedor, but it just bugs me when people call somebody like Fedor all hype but not Brock. That just shows not limited, but no knowledge of MMA...or atleast it shows they have not bothered to watch Fedor's past fights because no way anybody can say they don't get the "hype" after that.
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Post by Jazzman on Nov 13, 2009 1:28:04 GMT -5
I really really wanted to say Brock, but as someone already mentioned, Fedor can be lights out on his back. Could Brock power out of a armbar or go for a Rampage-like Slam from guard or a triangle? Maybe, but Fedor has more ways to finish the fight, IMO. Fedor by a slim margin, but Brock could get him.
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Post by thelesserevil on Nov 13, 2009 1:34:40 GMT -5
Brock could win, but so could anyone, I'd have to pick Fedor he has more experience, is great standing and on the ground, and deceptively strong. I don't get why people say Fedor is all hype, his record speaks for itself really.
I give Brock a chance, but Fedor would win it.
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Post by Cela on Nov 13, 2009 1:36:27 GMT -5
We should instead focus on the heavyweight Champion that IS all hype. Allistair Overeem.
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Post by Lancers on Nov 13, 2009 1:46:36 GMT -5
This is what pissed me off the most about Fedor signing with Strikeforce instead of the UFC. Because this fight would have happened. And we would have seen once and for all how good Brock Lesnar really is.
Notice I didn't type Fedor. That was intentional. 31 wins. 1 very questionable loss. Lesnar's only been in a few fights. I do think he's getting better with each contest (although at this rate, we won't see him fight again until UFC 150).
Brock certainly has the tools to beat Fedor. Brett Rogers looked pretty strong for about three and a half minutes in the first round and I think Lesnar can do more damage than Rogers.
But what puts Fedor over for me is the guy can take an incredible amount of punishment and still be able to knock you out (Brett Rogers) or twist your arm like a pretzel (Kevin Randleman). For crying out loud, Randleman suplexed Fedor on his head and he STILL made Randleman tap. The guy is badass defined.
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Post by Lancers on Nov 13, 2009 1:49:03 GMT -5
We should instead focus on the heavyweight Champion that IS all hype. Allistair Overeem. I would assume that Fedor's next victim opponent. I know there's a lot of talk of Werdum, but he's only got a three fight deal. They should put him in a title fight immediately. |
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Post by ghettooverlord on Nov 13, 2009 1:58:42 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar is a fake wrestler. Brock Lesnar got owned by Mir. Brock Lesnar beat nobody Heath Herring. Brock Lesnar beat up an old man. Brock Lesnar got lucky against Mir the second time. Brock Lesnar is just big. Brock Lesnar has no Jiu-Jitsu. Brock Lesnar can't strike. Brock Lesnar has no submissions. And so forth. -Yes, he was a fake wrestler, but also a real one. -He got caught in a submission by mir, but dominated beore that. -Heath Herring kind of sucks in the grand scheme of things, and he won via cautious yet creative lay and pray. -That was a mean old man -He was rocked during Mir 2, but he controlled the fight other than that. -He is indeed big, but he uses it effectively as opposed to the Sylvias and the Sapps. -We have yet to see him use jiu jitsu, hes a wrestler, thats ok. -He is very strong, but he gets caught when striking, he will get better. -We have yet to see him try a submission. And so on. I was channeling sentiments, not my opinion. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 13, 2009 2:02:40 GMT -5
Its a bit of an unfair comparison since Brock isn't anywhere near close to peaking yet.
At this stage, Fedor, but that could easily change.
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Post by PaperStreetBrigade on Nov 13, 2009 6:19:33 GMT -5
Seriously? Should this be anywhere near this close? I mean we just saw Fedor get his nose broken in a fight, go to the 2nd round for the first time in forever, and despite that all it took was one punch for him to turn everything around.
Brock is an insane human specimen, but a single mistake and its Fedor's fight.
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