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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Jan 2, 2010 14:16:15 GMT -5
Ok....I realize that WWE's HoF is basically thier own personal masturbatory gesture at times, and a way to show thier "Legends" that people still remember them.
However I've been thinking long and hard on this, and I think I've made a conclusion that only 2 people didn't need to be inducted. The following is my opinion:
- Pete Rose- Ok Vince.....we get it. It's a jab at the MLB for not allowing him in thier HoF, we've all had a nice laugh at this and like any joke....eventually it needs to stop.
- Eddie Guererro: Don't get me wrong.....I love Eddie's in-ring work and think that he should be in the HoF, just not under the circumstances he was inducted. Let's be honest here, If he was alive today, he'd be inducted the year he retired ala Flair or wouldn't be in until around the 2010s-2020's. He was inducted as a favor to his family, no fault in that, no real harm, but it seems off in retrospect.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 2, 2010 14:33:32 GMT -5
What would the point of been in waiting, though?
Pete Rose as a celeb induction made sense. I know as a fan I loved seeing him face off with Kane so many times. It was always fun because it made like no sense. Whether he was heel or face, Kane just hated his guts, and likewise. Rather than stay away, he'd always come back for more punishment.
I am fine with the Hall of Fame. It's for the wrestlers more than anything, sort of like the Friar Club Roasts. Just because fans don't care about someone doesn't mean the wrestlers don't respect them. By that standard, any production people should be blown off from any kind of induction or show of respect. I don't believe that in that. I would take any number of Koko B. Wares over someone who they threw in just to give the fans what they want at the expense of the wrestlers themselves.
Every other event is for the fans, and they risk their lives for the fans. Does it ALWAYS have to be about us? We paid our money, they wrestled and risked life and limb. Somewhere in this arrangement, we got the idea that they owe us more. I don't think they do, we got what we paid for. I say we're about even already.
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Fiddleford H. McGucket
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Jan 2, 2010 14:38:36 GMT -5
I'm not saying anything about waiting per se, it's really more the fact that it seems like Eddie Guererro only went in because he died and they were trying to apologise for exploiting him, when the classy thing would have been to not exploit him in the first place.
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Post by egyptianblizzard on Jan 2, 2010 14:53:10 GMT -5
However I've been thinking long and hard on this, and I think I've made a conclusion that only 2 people didn't need to be inducted. The following is my opinion: - Pete Rose - Eddie Guererro Did you forget about William Perry and Koko B. Ware? Give me one legitimate reason why these two are in the Hall of Fame. |
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Post by salz4life on Jan 2, 2010 14:59:13 GMT -5
What would the point of been in waiting, though? Pete Rose as a celeb induction made sense. I know as a fan I loved seeing him face off with Kane so many times. It was always fun because it made like no sense. Whether he was heel or face, Kane just hated his guts, and likewise. Rather than stay away, he'd always come back for more punishment. I am fine with the Hall of Fame. It's for the wrestlers more than anything, sort of like the Friar Club Roasts. Just because fans don't care about someone doesn't mean the wrestlers don't respect them. By that standard, any production people should be blown off from any kind of induction or show of respect. I don't believe that in that. I would take any number of Koko B. Wares over someone who they threw in just to give the fans what they want at the expense of the wrestlers themselves. Every other event is for the fans, and they risk their lives for the fans. Does it ALWAYS have to be about us? We paid our money, they wrestled and risked life and limb. Somewhere in this arrangement, we got the idea that they owe us more. I don't think they do, we got what we paid for. I say we're about even already. Great post. I agree with everything you have stated. The HOF is basically a yearly celebration of the history of wrestling IMO. It might be a WWE-ized history, but history nonetheless. |
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Jan 2, 2010 15:10:55 GMT -5
However I've been thinking long and hard on this, and I think I've made a conclusion that only 2 people didn't need to be inducted. The following is my opinion: - Pete Rose - Eddie Guererro Did you forget about William Perry and Koko B. Ware? Give me one legitimate reason why these two are in the Hall of Fame. As Far as Koko is concerned...at least he held championships. Granted they were NWA championships, and I think it might be more of throwing him a bone than anything else. I'm not a fan of his induction either, but he fits into the archetype that the WWE has done recently. He's either the "Token Minority Legend" or the "JTTS" that was missing from the 2009 Class As far as The Fridge.....I can't really defend him either, basically the only thing he has going for him is that he was at one of the early WrestleManias (WM2 to be exact), and was one of the first Celebrities to actually have in-ring action on the grand stage. Tho I'd trade both for a Mr. T induction, a celebrity that needs to relent and accept a HoF nomination |
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Post by egyptianblizzard on Jan 2, 2010 15:35:34 GMT -5
Did you forget about William Perry and Koko B. Ware? Give me one legitimate reason why these two are in the Hall of Fame. As Far as Koko is concerned...at least he held championships. Granted they were NWA championships, and I think it might be more of throwing him a bone than anything else. I'm not a fan of his induction either, but he fits into the archetype that the WWE has done recently. He's either the "Token Minority Legend" or the "JTTS" that was missing from the 2009 Class As far as The Fridge.....I can't really defend him either, basically the only thing he has going for him is that he was at one of the early WrestleManias (WM2 to be exact), and was one of the first Celebrities to actually have in-ring action on the grand stage. Tho I'd trade both for a Mr. T induction, a celebrity that needs to relent and accept a HoF nomination It just donned on me why Koko is in. He was the first person Undertaker beat. That's got to be it. lol Mr. T makes a lot more sense than William Perry. Mr. T was in the main event at the first Wrestlemania and also was on the Wrestlemania 2 card. Perry was at 2 as well, but there were plenty of other football players in the battle royal. They aren't in the Hall of Fame. Perry makes no sense whatsoever. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 2, 2010 16:11:18 GMT -5
Koko B. Ware is in because he was a part of WWE's rise to fame. Granted, he was in the undercard, but WWE appreciates its Tito Santanas as much as they appreciate the Roddy Pipers.
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Post by egyptianblizzard on Jan 2, 2010 16:19:01 GMT -5
Tito won gold in the WWE. Both as a single and as a tag team.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 2, 2010 16:28:47 GMT -5
Tito won gold in the WWE. Both as a single and as a tag team. That he did, and he was also a notable Hispanic wrestler when there weren't many in WWE. I wasn't trying to shoot him down as much as say that you don't need to be a main eventer to play an important role. Hell, I even want Brawler in. |
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