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Post by foreveryoung on Jan 2, 2010 14:03:11 GMT -5
Angle #5 and Trips Number 1? That shows you right there. Angle is twice the wrestlers Trips ever was and then some I don't get it. As far as matches go.. I think you can argue Shawn and Angle, maybe taker have had far superior matches over the course of the decade than Triple H has. Obviously in terms of being booked over the last decade, Triple H has had the luxury of getting to be in the high profile fueds and the emphasis being mostly put on him. That helps his case of course
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Post by Solid Stryk-Dizzle on Jan 2, 2010 14:03:37 GMT -5
Triple H was crazy over before he was married to Stephanie.
How does Angle being number 5 on some guys list mean that he's twice the wrestler of H?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2010 14:04:57 GMT -5
Oh this thread's already shaping up to be fun
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Post by Solid Stryk-Dizzle on Jan 2, 2010 14:05:24 GMT -5
I am very confused.
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Post by foreveryoung on Jan 2, 2010 14:06:35 GMT -5
Triple H was crazy over before he was married to Stephanie. How does Angle being number 5 on some guys list mean that he's twice the wrestler of H? Im talking about as far as match quality over the last decade. Angle surpasses Triple H. Heck i think even Shawn does and Shawn isnt even in his prime anymore. But most of his matches have been arguabe better than Trips' as well I agree Triple H was over before marrying Stephanie. However would he have had a 10 year run top and as many runs with the strap as he has had IF he didnt marry Stephanie and got into the family? Thats up for extreme debate of course
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Jan 2, 2010 14:13:22 GMT -5
Triple H was crazy over before he was married to Stephanie. How does Angle being number 5 on some guys list mean that he's twice the wrestler of H? Im talking about as far as match quality over the last decade. Angle surpasses Triple H. Heck i think even Shawn does and Shawn isnt even in his prime anymore. But most of his matches have been arguabe better than Trips' as well I agree Triple H was over before marrying Stephanie. However would he have had a 10 year run top and as many runs with the strap as he has had IF he didnt marry Stephanie and got into the family? Thats up for extreme debate of course But he still would be the most dependable guy on the roster, regardless of if he married Steph. The title reigns, well sure he wouldn't even be in consideration if he wasn't with Steph, but he would still be in that main event scene and constantly be on PPVs. If Kurt Angle didn't act like a psycho in his last few months, then maybe he'd still be in WWE and maybe he'd be one. I'm not a HHHater or a Trips fan, I'm pretty neutral to him. But the number one spot isn't for flakes, this is why Trips is Number 1 this decade in the terms of "wrestler".
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 2, 2010 14:13:29 GMT -5
We'll probably never know how much a role Triple H's wife has had in his staying on top. They did break up at a point without him losing his spot, though, and he was champion before they ever started dating, so it's not like he used her to get on top.
That being said, maybe he seemed like such an attractive candidate for some of his runs due to the favorable look the McMahon's would have on him. Whether it's due to a lack of Rock and Austin for many of these runs to turn to, or due to a bias, we'll never know because we can't rewrite the past. Well, until the DVD, then Brisco can say whatever he wants. ;D
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Post by cernex on Jan 2, 2010 14:17:05 GMT -5
Being constant =/= quality.
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on Jan 2, 2010 15:05:07 GMT -5
Triple H was crazy over before he was married to Stephanie. How does Angle being number 5 on some guys list mean that he's twice the wrestler of H? Im talking about as far as match quality over the last decade. Angle surpasses Triple H. Heck i think even Shawn does and Shawn isnt even in his prime anymore. But most of his matches have been arguabe better than Trips' as well I agree Triple H was over before marrying Stephanie. However would he have had a 10 year run top and as many runs with the strap as he has had IF he didnt marry Stephanie and got into the family? Thats up for extreme debate of course I'd say he would have had a run at the top that long, just like Taker has, even without the Steph relationship. He loves the business, totally dedicated, totally reliable, and although he's had 2 big injuries, he doesn't need a reduced schedule like HBK and Taker do.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 2, 2010 15:19:22 GMT -5
Makes sense to me.
The guy has been consistant for an entire decade. While some guys left to do other things (Rock, Lesnar), or had to retire due to injury ( Austin) or have been plagued by injury (Taker, HBK, Edge), HHH has been pretty reliable (quad injuries aside) and a huge draw.
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 2, 2010 15:28:44 GMT -5
I agree with this. He's been the only constant in Wrestling, not just WWE, this decade. Let's see: Rock left, Austin left, Angle was alright, Jericho left in periods, Edge wasn't there all decade, Cena wasn't here for half of it, Lesnar bailed, Lashley left, Kennedy was a bust, Foley tarnished his legacy, Orton wasn't here for half of it, Benoit did whatever the hell you want to call it I don't care anymore, Eddie died, Big Show wasn't all that big, Golberg left, Taker has had injury issues, Kane is always yoyoed, Punk wasn't here for half of it, Jeff didn't make a big impact until the last 2 years, Christian hasn't made it big yet, RVD got busted, HBK wasn't here for the first 2 years and Booker T wasn't all that big. There's only been one constant, and despite all the poliKliqing, sucking up, and HHHate...Triple H has been the only constant Wrestling has been able to depend on since 2000. That just says to me that he's been around for the longest, not that he's the best.
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Post by Solid Stryk-Dizzle on Jan 2, 2010 15:30:11 GMT -5
But he's been consistant in terms of in-ring stuff. When you take his good to great matches throughout the decade and combine it with how long he's been going strong. It's hard to argue with the number one spot.
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Post by foreveryoung on Jan 2, 2010 15:42:08 GMT -5
I agree with this. He's been the only constant in Wrestling, not just WWE, this decade. Let's see: Rock left, Austin left, Angle was alright, Jericho left in periods, Edge wasn't there all decade, Cena wasn't here for half of it, Lesnar bailed, Lashley left, Kennedy was a bust, Foley tarnished his legacy, Orton wasn't here for half of it, Benoit did whatever the hell you want to call it I don't care anymore, Eddie died, Big Show wasn't all that big, Golberg left, Taker has had injury issues, Kane is always yoyoed, Punk wasn't here for half of it, Jeff didn't make a big impact until the last 2 years, Christian hasn't made it big yet, RVD got busted, HBK wasn't here for the first 2 years and Booker T wasn't all that big. There's only been one constant, and despite all the poliKliqing, sucking up, and HHHate...Triple H has been the only constant Wrestling has been able to depend on since 2000. That just says to me that he's been around for the longest, not that he's the best. I agree.. Longevity on top doesnt not necessarily equate to being the best. I look at this way.. Yes Trips may have had the longevity as opposed to guys like Austin and Rock.. But no one can say that Trips being on top was as successful as those two ( drawing wise, entertainment wise etc) even though Rock only had maybe 5 years or so on top, same as Austin. Hell for most of Triple H's reign of terror if anything it drove peopel AWAY not bring them in. Unlike Rock and Austin Consistency means.. Consistency.. Consistency doesnt mean you are the best at what u do.. It means you are consistent. I would rather take a guy who has a few short years but with unreal quality at the top, drew huge houses by sucking people in, and providing entertainment in the storyline he was in.. Opposed to someone who didnt reach the same success, yet was on top for a longer period of time because the real stars either quit or retired so he could take that top spot. I look at Triple H on top as a result more to due.. Yes marrying in the family.. It isnt the sole reason he got on top.. But you cant sit there and tell me it didnt help with his 40 million titles reigns and 10 years in and around the top spot when others could have been chosen especially in a down time for the business when people got sick of the triple H-steph show. .. And Guys like Angle leaving, Stone Cold Retiring, Lesnar leaving (which he could have been the next big thing possibly) and Rock leaving. Trips just kept around when guys above him left. Thats what it seemed to boiled down to it seemed to me
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Post by Shogun316 on Jan 2, 2010 15:47:07 GMT -5
now everyone has got to say that hhh is pretty damn good but i would still not consider him as the best wrestler of the decade
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Jan 2, 2010 15:47:24 GMT -5
I agree with this. He's been the only constant in Wrestling, not just WWE, this decade. Let's see: Rock left, Austin left, Angle was alright, Jericho left in periods, Edge wasn't there all decade, Cena wasn't here for half of it, Lesnar bailed, Lashley left, Kennedy was a bust, Foley tarnished his legacy, Orton wasn't here for half of it, Benoit did whatever the hell you want to call it I don't care anymore, Eddie died, Big Show wasn't all that big, Golberg left, Taker has had injury issues, Kane is always yoyoed, Punk wasn't here for half of it, Jeff didn't make a big impact until the last 2 years, Christian hasn't made it big yet, RVD got busted, HBK wasn't here for the first 2 years and Booker T wasn't all that big. There's only been one constant, and despite all the poliKliqing, sucking up, and HHHate...Triple H has been the only constant Wrestling has been able to depend on since 2000. That just says to me that he's been around for the longest, not that he's the best. Its a combination of longevity and all around in-ring performance. Someone like HBK or Angle have him beat with in-ring performance (though Trips isn't complete crap in the ring), but they don't edge him out with dependability and longevity.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Jan 2, 2010 15:49:26 GMT -5
While I'm not his biggest fan, I have no problem w/HHH as #1, personally I would've picked Angle. Actually my only real problem w/ the list is Angle being 5th, but I can see those guys as the top 5, just not in that order, mine would go Angle, HHH, Cena, Taker, HBK.
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Post by comahan on Jan 2, 2010 15:56:34 GMT -5
For WWE, id agree with Trips. Maybe Cena, but Id probably go Trips.
Overall though Id say Angle.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 2, 2010 15:57:18 GMT -5
While I'm not his biggest fan, I have no problem w/HHH as #1, personally I would've picked Angle. Actually my only real problem w/ the list is Angle being 5th, but I can see those guys as the top 5, just not in that order, mine would go Angle, HHH, Cena, Taker, HBK. I wouldn't disagree with that. Hell, I'd say the only issue I have is that Triple H and Kurt Angle ought to be the first two in the list, and whichever was picked for that I would of agreed with.
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Post by thereasonyoulive on Jan 2, 2010 15:59:30 GMT -5
I definitely agree that HHH was the wreslter of the decade. Sure, major douche by FAR, but if it had to be decided between HHH and Angle on who was the best, I would have to pick HHH.
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Post by dc09 on Jan 2, 2010 16:33:40 GMT -5
I'm not a huge HHH fan, but I have to agree. For a long time he was WWF/E's top heel and like the article said his triple threat with Chris Benoit and Shawn Micheals was one of the last truly great WM main events I can remember. Plus wrestlers like the Rock and Stone Cold as brilliant as they are have not benn wrestling for the last ten years like Triple H. Angle is a very close second in my opinion. What was the full list?
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