PG WWE when will it end?

[krizwicky]

So how long do u think vince will keep the wwe in the pg setting?

And when do you think we will have another attuide era?

[American Dragon]

There will never be another Attitude Era, so don't hold your breath...

[Ryushinku]

Not any time soon. I think they'll try to keep to PG-TV for years yet.

Only other way wound be if TNA suddenly were able to pull in bigger ratings with more edgy, adult stuff...but even then Vince would probably prefer to stick to PG-TV to make his own point.

[Red Impact]

There's no reason PG has to mean childish. You can have mature storylines without an adult rating. They just haven't figured out to do it without leprechauns and poop jokes.

And the attitude era was very much a product of it's time. Crash TV isn't at the same level of popularity as it once was, it's declined a lot. Unless it became big again, we won't see another attitude era.

[American Dragon]

Jan 3, 2010 11:09:27 GMT -5 Red Impact said:

There's no reason PG has to mean childish. You can have mature storylines without an adult rating.

Exactly. If anyone recalls, WWF was PG in 1997, and well into 1998, when some of the most controversial, shocking and memorable moments happened.

[Big Daddy Bad Booking]

If I was given $5 for every time one of these threads popped up, I'd be getting a ton of video games!

[Deleted]

PG is the best place for WWE to be for many reasons, providing they can figure out how to do it.

I think the biggest problem, and what has people clamoring for another Attitude era, is that WWE has constantly proven over the last ten years that they are far more comfortable doing shock TV than focusing on compelling, well-written stories and great in-ring action.

[wrestlecrapcrap]

Jan 3, 2010 11:09:27 GMT -5 Red Impact said:

There's no reason PG has to mean childish. You can have mature storylines without an adult rating. They just haven't figured out to do it without leprechauns and poop jokes.

Marshall Law
Jericho/HBK
Edge/Taker
JBL/HBK
Orton/McMahons
HBK/Taker
Jericho/Rey
Punk/Jeff
Batista/Rey

These are just storyliens off the top of my head that were pretty compelling and didn't rely on exclusive 'children-related' content, since they went PG. Yes they have lepracauns, but to ignore everything else they do is ridiculous.

[Bob Schlapowitz]

Jan 3, 2010 11:15:24 GMT -5 American Dragon said:

Jan 3, 2010 11:09:27 GMT -5 Red Impact said:

There's no reason PG has to mean childish. You can have mature storylines without an adult rating.

Exactly. If anyone recalls, WWF was PG in 1997, and well into 1998, when some of the most controversial, shocking and memorable moments happened.

And if I remember correctly, Smackdown! was ALWAYS rated TV-PG. It was just Raw that was TV-14. If I'm mistaken, I apologize.

And, no. There will never be another Attitude Era. In terms of both content, and popularity. There's not going to be another "boom period" like that anytime soon. This is not a knock on the current product, but I don't think we'll be seeing WWE get 1998-99 type numbers again for a long time, if ever.

Having said that, like someone said, it was a produst of it's time. If you go back and watch a WWF show from 1998, nostalgia aside, you have to admit that it hasn't aged well.

[Red Impact]

Jan 3, 2010 11:29:39 GMT -5 wrestlecrapcrap said:

Jan 3, 2010 11:09:27 GMT -5 Red Impact said:

There's no reason PG has to mean childish. You can have mature storylines without an adult rating. They just haven't figured out to do it without leprechauns and poop jokes.

Marshall Law
Jericho/HBK
Edge/Taker
JBL/HBK
Orton/McMahons
HBK/Taker
Jericho/Rey
Punk/Jeff
Batista/Rey

These are just storyliens off the top of my head that were pretty compelling and didn't rely on exclusive 'children-related' content, since they went PG. Yes they have lepracauns, but to ignore everything else they do is ridiculous.

I never intended to ignore everything else, I was merely saying the company's PG tends to include the ridiculous and outlandish somewhere.

And that inclusion is why we get the complaints about TV-PG that we do.

[forgottensinpwf]

Jan 3, 2010 11:17:51 GMT -5 Big Daddy Bad Booking said:

If I was given $5 for every time one of these threads popped up, I'd be getting a ton of video games!

Same here. If i also had 5 dollars for people thinking PG means G, i'd be quite wealthy.

[barley96]

Jan 3, 2010 11:33:06 GMT -5 Bob Schlapowitz said:

Jan 3, 2010 11:15:24 GMT -5 American Dragon said:

Exactly. If anyone recalls, WWF was PG in 1997, and well into 1998, when some of the most controversial, shocking and memorable moments happened.

And if I remember correctly, Smackdown! was ALWAYS rated TV-PG. It was just Raw that was TV-14. If I'm mistaken, I apologize.

And, no. There will never be another Attitude Era. In terms of both content, and popularity. There's not going to be another "boom period" like that anytime soon. This is not a knock on the current product, but I don't think we'll be seeing WWE get 1998-99 type numbers again for a long time, if ever.

Having said that, like someone said, it was a produst of it's time. If you go back and watch a WWF show from 1998, nostalgia aside, you have to admit that it hasn't aged well.

This is true. Also when WWECW went on the air they wre TV-14.

[johnnyk9]

if TNA starts beating WWE in the ratings it may end

[Lionheart]

All of this has happened before. All of it will happen again. [/BSG]

If we assume that this is all cyclical, and observe the previous pattern...

-The Rock-n'-wrestling/"Hulkster says take your vitamins, kids" era
which gave way to...
-The "New Generation" era
which gave way to...
-The Attitude era

...Then we should be looking at the dawn of a new Attitude era sometime around, oh, I dunno, 2022? ;D

Jan 3, 2010 16:49:58 GMT -5 johnnyk9 said:

if TNA starts beating WWE in the ratings it may end

So you're saying never, then? ;D

[________ has left the building]

When the kids of today become young adults, it might change. Until then either you get used to it or you have to find a new promotion to watch. Imagine if the internet existed back during the Rock n wrestling era. If you think DX, Cena, and Hornswoggle makes you sick, relive Hulkamania during its peak. Even as a kid, it got tiring seeing Hogan beating every monster and villain month after month, year after year.

[forgottensinpwf]

Jan 3, 2010 16:49:58 GMT -5 johnnyk9 said:

if TNA starts beating WWE in the ratings it may end

If Vince ever actually considers TNA a threat, then maybe. Right now he just wants to embarrass them.

[AriadosMan]

Why do people seem to think TV-14 WWE would be so much better? Its the exact same sucky writing crew, just with Kiss My Ass Club and Lashley saying Bathturd instead of Chris Masters' Pecdance and Santino as Santa.

[MolotovMocktail]

Having said that, like someone said, it was a produst of it's time. If you go back and watch a WWF show from 1998, nostalgia aside, you have to admit that it hasn't aged well.

I disagree. Those shows are superior to today's because, simply put, there was less wasted space. Yes you had dumb skits like Val Venis' castration, but at the same time, that served the purpose of getting Kaientai over, whereas today, they'd just be sucking dust backstage for weeks at a time. Everyone on the roster had some role in the show and its ongoing stories. Some better than others, but they found a way to get everyone in. Even if they were jobbers, they were built up to look like a challenge, so there seemed like there were fewer throwaway matches.

Also, I've said this in another thread, but an anti-hero like Austin or Rock is more believable than a pure white hat like Cena, or even Hogan. You rooted for them, but couldn't justify a lot of the things they did. That made them more human than guys who are just walking personality traits.

[destrucity]

The day after Election Day unless Linda loses in the primary. Then it will be the day after the primary.

[Azrael from Outerspace]

They are corporate so it won't go back. But i'm 25, and if they go back to the "attitude" it won't be for another 5-10 years. When i'm 30-35 i'm not going to want to see "edgy" storylines or shock. Personally right now all i want is good wrestling.