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Post by Greer on Jan 12, 2010 16:40:52 GMT -5
I love Savage and all that good stuff, but would these fans in this time and this age where they barely remember Steve Austin and The Rock really care if the Macho Man's music hit and he came out looking much different than what we remember.
The Bret Hart pop was good. But it wasn't what you would expect after a 12 year absence of one of the top WWF names of all time. It could have been the venue itself but who knows. I honestly believe half of, if not more of those fans didn't even know who Bret Hart was but were just cheering because it was the popular thing to do or because "everybody's doin it". Call me silly, but I don't know how many of those cheers were legitamite "Welcome Back, I missed you Bret" cheers over people just saying, aw hell I'm told he was a big star so I will cheer.
In the end, the question is...barring an MSG RAW (even though the MSG fans aren't too credible anymore either), would fans give Savage the pop we THINK he should get?
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Post by CMWaters on Jan 12, 2010 16:43:08 GMT -5
Probably not, but I don't give a damn.
Seeing Savage on WWE TV, as well as hearing Pomp and Circumstance, would be neat.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Jan 12, 2010 16:45:47 GMT -5
well if you told people in advance, they would probably show up out of interest. Not to mention all these young kids are there with their parents who should be old enough to remember the Macho Man. Not to mention, Savage, like Hogan, is one of the more identifiable wrestlers of the 80's. He was pretty much the model for stereotypical wrestler people made fun of on TV for most of the 90's.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2010 16:46:03 GMT -5
I certainly wouldn't.
Especially not since he looks like Santa Claus.
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Post by spagett on Jan 12, 2010 16:46:44 GMT -5
There is no chance of him getting the pop he would deserve save for it being a particularly smarky crowd in England or Canada.
I also love Savage, the guy was so ahead of his time it is amazing to go back and watch some of his promos and matches, but it's been about 16 years since he was in the WWE.
Plus Bret was never ignored by the WWE. They would still mention Bret occasionally and talk about him when the occasion merited it, like him being a nominee for Raw Superstar of the decade in 2003.
Macho Man has been airbrushed from WWE history pretty much. That DVD last year, which was never advertised on TV and wasn't a documentary, is the only thing that the WWE has put out there with Savages face on it.
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Post by AriadosMan on Jan 12, 2010 16:50:51 GMT -5
There is no chance of him getting the pop he would deserve save for it being a particularly smarky crowd in England or Canada. I also love Savage, the guy was so ahead of his time it is amazing to go back and watch some of his promos and matches, but it's been about 16 years since he was in the WWE. Plus Bret was never ignored by the WWE. They would still mention Bret occasionally and talk about him when the occasion merited it, like him being a nominee for Raw Superstar of the decade in 2003. Macho Man has been airbrushed from WWE history pretty much. That DVD last year, which was never advertised on TV and wasn't a documentary, is the only thing that the WWE has put out there with Savages face on it. This... and the fact that Macho was treated as a midcarder (the most over midcarder of all time possibly, but still...) for most of his WWE run, whereas Bret actually did get to ME.
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Post by KimberlyPagesBoyToy on Jan 12, 2010 16:56:49 GMT -5
Ohhh Yeahhh! Nuff said.
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Post by CMWaters on Jan 12, 2010 16:58:45 GMT -5
...I thought the Savage DVD was advertised on TV, at least in the going into or coming out of commercial breaks.
Sure it never was plugged on the shows, but it was advertised somewhat.
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Post by bob on Jan 12, 2010 17:00:25 GMT -5
I'd mark super hard
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Post by Jason Todd Grisham on Jan 12, 2010 17:28:33 GMT -5
I think so. When I imagine the platonic ideal of a wrestler, Macho Man is what comes to mind. And whenever there's a need for a wrestler in some cartoon or movie he tends to play the role.
In the least if he comes back as Bonesaw people will recognize him. And his voice is an American institution!
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Post by sourdoughjack on Jan 12, 2010 17:46:15 GMT -5
Macho Man has been airbrushed from WWE history pretty much. That DVD last year, which was never advertised on TV I saw a whole lot of commercials for that DVD.
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Jan 12, 2010 18:44:48 GMT -5
Randy Savage kinda has a rather distinct look to himself...and then there's that voice too.
If someone watched wrestling in the 80's or 90's I'm sure they'd remember him.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jan 12, 2010 18:46:33 GMT -5
It would double Bret's pop.
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Post by Zen411 on Jan 12, 2010 20:31:35 GMT -5
Young fans wouldn't care and even teens and college crowd might not remember him. Mostly people in their late 20s and older would care. I remember when Superstar Billy Graham made a half-assed return in the late 80s because I wasn't alive during his heyday. I would say the same holds for Macho. You dont have to do everything to appeal to kids. It would be nice for him to have a farewell run if even as a non-wrestling character or one match. I would love it only if he dyed the beard and lost some weight. I dont want to see Charlie Daniels in the ring. yepyep.gibbs12.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/machoman.jpg
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Post by machomadness on Jan 12, 2010 20:34:06 GMT -5
"The creeeeam of the crop!".
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Jan 12, 2010 20:52:52 GMT -5
I'd crap my pants into oblivion.
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Post by Tapout on Jan 12, 2010 21:14:29 GMT -5
Same as everyone else here. Some of the older fans would mark hard, all the younger ones would say, "who is this guy?"
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Post by Zen411 on Jan 12, 2010 21:19:53 GMT -5
I really hate how he sort of just faded out in WWE in 94. He was reduced to a caricature of his past glory and doing half commentary/half wrestling. Mostly jobbing to Yokozuna and other younger talent.
For all he did in WWE, it would be cool if he had a proper last run. I just think he needs to look like he used to and clean up the crazy antics he has pulled lately. The paranoia, the calling out Hogan for no reason.... give it up, "man up" and show proper respect for the WWE and the young guys in the locker room. Only then would I welcome Macho back!
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Jan 12, 2010 22:44:48 GMT -5
Young fans wouldn't care and even teens and college crowd might not remember him. Mostly people in their late 20s and older would care. I remember when Superstar Billy Graham made a half-assed return in the late 80s because I wasn't alive during his heyday. I would say the same holds for Macho. You dont have to do everything to appeal to kids. It would be nice for him to have a farewell run if even as a non-wrestling character or one match. I would love it only if he dyed the beard and lost some weight. I dont want to see Charlie Daniels in the ring. yepyep.gibbs12.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/machoman.jpgI would if it ends with a fiddle shot. And maybe a suplex? I mean....I didn't think Toby Keith's appearance was all that detrimental to the then young TNA.
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Post by celticjobber on Jan 13, 2010 5:39:43 GMT -5
Yeah, I think he would definitely get a big pop... Atleast on the first night he was back.
He was one of the biggest stars in the history of wrestling (and has alot of mainstream notoriety). Bret Hart is my favorite wrestler, but I have to admit Macho is probably about 10 times more well known to the general public.
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