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Post by Greer on Feb 24, 2010 16:48:03 GMT -5
Well it's had to argue with that logic.
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Post by TheDarkestKnight on Feb 24, 2010 16:50:07 GMT -5
Love when he busts it out every so often. I'd mark if he beats Edge with this locked in, in the middle of the ring at Wrestlemania.
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Post by Quote the Tozz, Nevermore. on Feb 24, 2010 17:00:43 GMT -5
Oh come on. CM Punk could pick his nose and eat it and get a thread dedicated to it. Please oh please could I quote that for my sig? It made me lol so hard. And I haven't seen that in a while either.. Hmm.
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Post by Greer on Feb 24, 2010 17:15:42 GMT -5
Oh come on. CM Punk could pick his nose and eat it and get a thread dedicated to it. Please oh please could I quote that for my sig? It made me lol so hard. And I haven't seen that in a while either.. Hmm.
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Post by Shaq-Fu on Feb 24, 2010 17:23:55 GMT -5
Pah, "best in the world"? Guy taps quicker then a woodpecker on meth.
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Post by a1TheEnigma1a on Feb 24, 2010 17:25:03 GMT -5
I don't. It's not like it requires any particular skill on Jericho's part to apply it, and all it does is put a lot of strain on the other guy's neck. Neck injuries are anything but awesome. Given the WWE's road schedule, all that wear and tear isn't good. Even a Boston crab can look good if it's booked and sold properly. It's a perfect example of how Jericho gets "appreciation" that he really didn't do anything to deserve, and why he's overrated.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Feb 24, 2010 17:51:39 GMT -5
Pah, "best in the world"? Guy taps quicker then a woodpecker on meth. holy crap that's fast. though not as erratic.
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Feb 24, 2010 18:06:52 GMT -5
Pah, "best in the world"? Guy taps quicker then a woodpecker on meth. holy crap that's fast. though not as erratic. It was fast, but it made sense as he just slammed his back into the announce table and took a codebreaker.
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Post by Krimzon on Feb 24, 2010 18:07:11 GMT -5
Of course he tapped fast. I wouldn't think less of anybody that taps quickly to the Tamer. Hell, I wouldn't think less of anybody that taps even before Jericho locks in the move. There's almost no way out. You can fight out of the Walls every time and get to the ropes. That ain't happenin' with the Liontamer.
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Post by Yami Daimao on Feb 24, 2010 18:19:25 GMT -5
Of course he tapped fast. I wouldn't think less of anybody that taps quickly to the Tamer. Hell, I wouldn't think less of anybody that taps even before Jericho locks in the move. There's almost no way out. You can fight out of the Walls every time and get to the ropes. That ain't happenin' with the Liontamer. Good point. It's either TAP or SNAP.
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Post by Shaq-Fu on Feb 24, 2010 19:37:02 GMT -5
Of course he tapped fast. I wouldn't think less of anybody that taps quickly to the Tamer. Hell, I wouldn't think less of anybody that taps even before Jericho locks in the move. There's almost no way out. You can fight out of the Walls every time and get to the ropes. That ain't happenin' with the Liontamer. Fair enough. All I'm saying is that someone like Cena wouldn't have tapped out so quick, and little things like that make Cena the better wrestler right now. I'm sure Bryan will pick these things up quick enough though.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Feb 24, 2010 20:15:33 GMT -5
Of course he tapped fast. I wouldn't think less of anybody that taps quickly to the Tamer. Hell, I wouldn't think less of anybody that taps even before Jericho locks in the move. There's almost no way out. You can fight out of the Walls every time and get to the ropes. That ain't happenin' with the Liontamer. Fair enough. All I'm saying is that someone like Cena wouldn't have tapped out so quick, and little things like that make Cena the better wrestler right now. I'm sure Bryan will pick these things up quick enough though. ... I think he has... and that maybe his tapping may have had a point that he's not experienced in the big leagues??? The Christian/Carlito tag... the guy didn't reverse the Unprettier... EVERYONE reverses that one or two times during a match. Little things like that will change and progress over the course of the season.
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Post by Greer on Feb 24, 2010 20:21:53 GMT -5
Well, I mean shouldn't he tap quickly. He is the "rookie" and Jericho is the Heavyweight Champion of the company.
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Post by Kevin's Thorn on Feb 24, 2010 21:12:20 GMT -5
Well, I mean shouldn't he tap quickly. He is the "rookie" and Jericho is the Heavyweight Champion of the company. I'm sure Jericho was told to lock it in extra painfully to make sure Daniel tapped quickly. If not, he should've been-- suckaz gotsta know, as Cole would say.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Feb 24, 2010 22:32:17 GMT -5
Seems like the Boston Crab version of the Liontamer is used primarily to help his opponent drag themselves to the ropes easier, to generate drama. When Jericho drops his knee, he usually gets a quick tap.
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Post by Yami Daimao on Feb 25, 2010 0:19:17 GMT -5
Fair enough. All I'm saying is that someone like Cena wouldn't have tapped out so quick, and little things like that make Cena the better wrestler right now. Of course not. Cena would have used his "AMAZING LEG STRENGTH ZOMG!" and literally catapult Jericho to the nose bleeds section of the arena, before Triple H comes out thinking it's a Falls Count Anywhere match and pins Jericho right then and there for the lulz. Picture that with the Superman theme playing in the background. Seems like the Boston Crab version of the Liontamer is used primarily to help his opponent drag themselves to the ropes easier, to generate drama. When Jericho drops his knee, he usually gets a quick tap. I like that. Kind of like the Ankle Lock. When Angle has it normally locked in, you either crawl for a rope break or tap. But once he applies the "grapevine", you're pretty much f***ed.
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Post by The Deadly Snake on Feb 25, 2010 1:49:15 GMT -5
Fair enough. All I'm saying is that someone like Cena wouldn't have tapped out so quick, and little things like that make Cena the better wrestler right now. Of course not. Cena would have used his "AMAZING LEG STRENGTH ZOMG!" and literally catapult Jericho to the nose bleeds section of the arena, before Triple H comes out thinking it's a Falls Count Anywhere match and pins Jericho right then and there for the lulz. Picture that with the Superman theme playing in the background. Seems like the Boston Crab version of the Liontamer is used primarily to help his opponent drag themselves to the ropes easier, to generate drama. When Jericho drops his knee, he usually gets a quick tap. I like that. Kind of like the Ankle Lock. When Angle has it normally locked in, you either crawl for a rope break or tap. But once he applies the "grapevine", you're pretty much f***ed. Actually, if it's grapevined, and you are heavier than Kurt, you can slowly crawl your way to the ropes. Plus, because he's not at higher elevation, which means Ankle Lock is actually weaker than if he's standing or kneeling. But in any case, if he did a REAL ankle lock, you would have probably tapped out before he did the grapevine anyway. I'm actually surprised Kurt never actually did a kneeling Ankle lock where one his legs is over the leg that's being applied the Ankle Lock. He's at a good elevation, he's got it locked in, and it would be incredibly hard to crawl to any ropes (and if you did, all Kurt would need to do is get up and drag you back in the middle). I also want to point out that Kurt didn't always do the Ankle Lock. Sometimes what he was doing was actually the Heel Hook. But I digress. As for Chris Jericho doing the Liontamer, let's face it - it was the American Dragon, Bryan Danielson. I think Chris Jericho is aware enough on how the IWC feels about him. He just gave us something special for the match.
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Post by FreZno on Feb 25, 2010 2:13:01 GMT -5
Fair enough. All I'm saying is that someone like Cena wouldn't have tapped out so quick, and little things like that make Cena the better wrestler right now. Of course not. Cena would have used his "AMAZING LEG STRENGTH ZOMG!" and literally catapult Jericho to the nose bleeds section of the arena, before Triple H comes out thinking it's a Falls Count Anywhere match and pins Jericho right then and there for the lulz. Picture that with the Superman theme playing in the background I pictured it, and I lol'd. ;D
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Post by hajimenoippo on Feb 25, 2010 3:12:23 GMT -5
I hope edge uses the edgeucator In the coming weeks to show that he's more than spear or low blow/sneaky rollup
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Feb 25, 2010 11:08:32 GMT -5
Seems like the Boston Crab version of the Liontamer is used primarily to help his opponent drag themselves to the ropes easier, to generate drama. When Jericho drops his knee, he usually gets a quick tap. Jericho was specifically asked about this in an interview(don't remember where tho), and he brought this up. Says it adds to the dramatics of the match if the opponent has a chance of getting to the ropes. The liontamer is of the sort that you can't exactly move towards the ropes. Even in WCW, he used a boston crab on the larger guys and they still called it the liontamer. I don't. It's not like it requires any particular skill on Jericho's part to apply it, and all it does is put a lot of strain on the other guy's neck. Neck injuries are anything but awesome. Given the WWE's road schedule, all that wear and tear isn't good. Even a Boston crab can look good if it's booked and sold properly. It's a perfect example of how Jericho gets "appreciation" that he really didn't do anything to deserve, and why he's overrated. So, 1) the boston crab style of the move requires more "particular skill"? 2) a move that looks more devastating is bad? 3) Even tho he only uses it once in a blue moon, so very little chance of "wear and tear" with it... it should never be done?
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