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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Feb 16, 2010 12:29:29 GMT -5
Why wouldn't they need more training? They're complete rookies. I wouldn't call someone that did multiple tours of Japan as "rookies". Not established? Yes. Rookies? Not so much. There is a 90% chance that all of their pre-WWE accomplishments will be ignored. |
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Post by BxB on Feb 16, 2010 12:31:12 GMT -5
I wouldn't call someone that did multiple tours of Japan as "rookies". Not established? Yes. Rookies? Not so much. There is a 90% chance that all of their pre-WWE accomplishments will be ignored. Oh I'm sure they will be, but that doesn't mean they're rookies. |
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Post by Soultastic on Feb 16, 2010 12:33:32 GMT -5
Why wouldn't they need more training? They're complete rookies. I wouldn't call someone that did multiple tours of Japan as "rookies". Not established? Yes. Rookies? Not so much. I believe that was a sarcastic statement poking fun at the fact that everyone who debuts in WWE is, under the WWE's impression, a rookie. |
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Post by seamonsters on Feb 16, 2010 12:42:54 GMT -5
I find the notion of Bryan Danielson (and Kaval/Low Ki) needing more training to be infinitely hilarious. Granted, Kaval would probably need to soften on his strikes and work a safer style. And Daniel Bryan would probably need some mic work. So what you're saying is that extra training for Danielson and Kaval would be both infinitely hilarious and beneficial? |
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Post by H-Fist on Feb 16, 2010 12:43:04 GMT -5
I'm laughing at the mental image of ring veterans Great Khali and Shad Gaspard mentoring no-name rookies Kaval and Bryan Danielson.
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on Feb 16, 2010 12:48:38 GMT -5
I'm laughing at the mental image of ring veterans Great Khali and Shad Gaspard mentoring no-name rookies Kaval and Bryan Danielson. ...never thought about it like that. Damn. |
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on Feb 16, 2010 12:56:58 GMT -5
People laugh at someone like Bryan needing a mentor, but the fact is there may be things he needs to work on.
Let's say he gets someone like MVP as a mentor. Their whole relationship could be built around the fact that Bryan can wrestle rings around anyone, but MVP is there to teach him the swagger and screen presence that it takes to become a star in WWE. Because while Bryan has the technical ability, there's no telling if he has that presence yet.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley on Feb 16, 2010 13:07:04 GMT -5
Kayfabe, people, kayfabe.
In non-kayfabe, this isn't WWE saying these guys need more training. Its their way to get guys established and build programs with guys already on the main roster. I think its a brilliant move.
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Post by FailedGimmick on Feb 16, 2010 13:11:02 GMT -5
Kayfabe, people, kayfabe. In non-kayfabe, this isn't WWE saying these guys need more training. Its their way to get guys established and build programs with guys already on the main roster. I think its a brilliant move. WHy do you think people hate it? |
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Post by Dragonfly on Feb 16, 2010 13:20:15 GMT -5
Bryan Danielson and Kaval/Senshi/Low-Ki are involved with this for one reason and one reason only: Attracting viewers that would normally ignore WWE programming. Compared to the rest of the NXT roster, these two are celebrities. There are people who will tune in to an episode or two just to see what happens. Without them, you have a roster made entirely of famous last names, unknowns, and a guy whose claim to fame was getting his head shaved by CM Punk. If the concept works, then the "star power" (and I use that term loosely) provided by Danielson and Kaval won't be needed in the future.
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on Feb 16, 2010 13:24:00 GMT -5
Bryan Danielson and Kaval/Senshi/Low-Ki are involved with this for one reason and one reason only: Attracting viewers that would normally ignore WWE programming. Compared to the rest of the NXT roster, these two are celebrities. There are people who will tune in to an episode or two just to see what happens. Without them, you have a roster made entirely of famous last names, unknowns, and a guy whose claim to fame was getting his head shaved by CM Punk. If the concept works, then the "star power" (and I use that term loosely) provided by Danielson and Kaval won't be needed in the future. There's a pretty low proportion of WWE's target audience that knows who Bryan or Kaval are. They are there for the same reason as everyone else, to get exposure to the WWE fans before being called up. |
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Post by Dragonfly on Feb 16, 2010 13:49:15 GMT -5
Bryan Danielson and Kaval/Senshi/Low-Ki are involved with this for one reason and one reason only: Attracting viewers that would normally ignore WWE programming. Compared to the rest of the NXT roster, these two are celebrities. There are people who will tune in to an episode or two just to see what happens. Without them, you have a roster made entirely of famous last names, unknowns, and a guy whose claim to fame was getting his head shaved by CM Punk. If the concept works, then the "star power" (and I use that term loosely) provided by Danielson and Kaval won't be needed in the future. There's a pretty low proportion of WWE's target audience that knows who Bryan or Kaval are. They are there for the same reason as everyone else, to get exposure to the WWE fans before being called up. As I said above, there will be people (as in "non-WWE fans") who will give this show a try based solely on Danielson and Kaval. I'm not saying that their mere presence will net the show a 2.5 or anything, but a name is a name no matter how you slice it. Besides, NXT is inheriting a 1.0 rating. They don't have anywhere to go but up at this point. |
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Post by hajimenoippo on Feb 16, 2010 14:02:28 GMT -5
I'm up for finlay and regal as the first "coaches"
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Post by Steveweiser on Feb 16, 2010 14:03:38 GMT -5
I'm up for finlay and regal as the first "coaches" I'd mark if Regal got Justin Angel and then revealed he doesn't particularly like South Africans. |
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Post by seamonsters on Feb 16, 2010 14:22:45 GMT -5
Considering how little he's been wrestling lately, I'm expecting Finlay to be a mentor, maybe Chavo. I'm guessing the other veteran mentors will be current road agents like AA, Malenko and Noble. The likes of MVP might come in on a one-off basis, but I doubt they'll be there every week.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Feb 16, 2010 14:26:08 GMT -5
I think this show is coming about because it's easier for the WWE (TV writers, not Wrestling) writers to write a "reality" show like this instead of trying to develop wrestling storylines. Same with RAW, I guess it's easier for them to write sketches instead of angles for the talent.
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Post by kenzinfive on Feb 16, 2010 14:40:48 GMT -5
I find the notion of Bryan Danielson (and Kaval/Low Ki) needing more training to be infinitely hilarious. Granted, Kaval would probably need to soften on his strikes and work a safer style. And Daniel Bryan would probably need some mic work. So what you're saying is that extra training for Danielson and Kaval would be both infinitely hilarious and beneficial? Well, the first paragraph was more or less a separate thought in my head compared to the second one. My initial reaction was WTF at having two highly-respected indie veterans like Low Ki and Danielson needing any more in-ring training. The more I thought about it, I could see where they could maybe improve in some areas. Maybe they need to adapt to a safer style or whatever. Regardless, they're probably there for star power in a buzz sort of way. If you frequent wrestling discussions on the Internet, you're bound to have at least heard of Bryan Danielson. I see Bryan and Kaval leaving NXT at the earliest possible opportunity offered within the context of the show (whether it's the end of the season or a mid-season graduation). |
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Post by CrazySting on Feb 16, 2010 14:41:57 GMT -5
I can't wait for the segment where WWE trainers have to teach newcomer Daniel Bryan basic wrestling techniques.
Even better if the trainer is someone like Michelle McCool or Primo.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2010 14:47:25 GMT -5
I'm laughing at the mental image of ring veterans Great Khali and Shad Gaspard mentoring no-name rookies Kaval and Bryan Danielson. If Kaval and Daniel Bryan get half as over as Khali and Cryme Tyme I'd say it's worth it |
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Post by Baixo Astral on Feb 16, 2010 15:05:18 GMT -5
I wouldn't call someone that did multiple tours of Japan as "rookies". Not established? Yes. Rookies? Not so much. I believe that was a sarcastic statement poking fun at the fact that everyone who debuts in WWE is, under the WWE's impression, a rookie. Nothing sarcastic about it - it's not like when someone jumped from WCW, or even in the territorial days when someone like Race came in - to the vast amount of the WWE fans they ARE rookies, on a show about rookies. Good chance for them to get over as the cream of a new crop, if you ask me. They can be acknowledged as skilled, but the WWE is, in their storyline, the only REAL game in town, so they don't have to acknowledge anything. |
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